TomCatMucDe Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 Not sure what the issue is of having to wait a bit for some more updates? Just look forward to the next update, then, which will be more comprehensive - by definition. :) The problem is that third party mode rely on those updates from ED. There were few recurrent updates from third party devs in the past, in fact there were few mods at all. People love easy comparisons without wanting to have a tiny deeper look at what they compare.
fjacobsen Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 (edited) Problem might be taht ED at some point kind of promised to issue updates once a week. last friday we saw nothing, this friday also nothing. We can see in the changelogs by some 3rd party dev's that quite a number of issues with their modules has been fixed and only awaits ED to bring them to the people via an update. I do know that alot probably needs to be brought together for a stable update, but I wonder wy some - or most - of these fixes couldn´t be released for DCS 2.0 Alpha and 1-5-3 Beta., leaving 1.5.3 stable unaffected. It must also be a PITA for the 3rd party dev's not to see their worl be brought on to the masses for testing. Seeing that posts made by Flagrum has been deleted is also not good. He above all has shown a poitive attitude all the way during tha last years and is to be found amongst the most helpfull and pro DCS member in this forum - that makes no sense for me. I don´t hope ED is going down the same lina as other sites, where Censcorising posts is the normal order of the day. FinnJ Edited June 11, 2016 by fjacobsen | i7-10700K 3.8-5.1Ghz | 64GB RAM | RTX 4070 12GB | 1x1TB M.2. NVMe SSD | 1x2TB M.2. NVMe SSD | 2x2TB SATA SSD | 1x2TB HDD 7200 RPM | Win10 Home 64bit | Meta Quest 3 |
TomCatMucDe Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 People don't wait for ED fixes. People wait for fixes of third party devs, namely Razbam and Polychops. If they could release only their fixes, I doubt anybody would complain that we don't have full DCS updates. And That's why people expect recurrent updates, not that they want to be spoiled
ED Team NineLine Posted June 11, 2016 ED Team Posted June 11, 2016 There was no promise of weekly patches.... As well : 1.3 Administrative actions against forum members are not subject to public discussion. If you feel an action against you was unjust or otherwise inappropriate, please use the Private Messaging (PM) system to appeal the action to other forum staff members or the forum administrator. Problem might be taht ED at some point kind of promised to issue updates once a week. last friday we saw nothing, this friday also nothing. We can see in the changelogs by some 3rd party dev's that quite a number of issues with their modules has been fixed and only awaits ED to bring them to the people via an update. I do know that alot probably needs to be brought together for a stable update, but I wonder wy some - or most - of these fixes couldn´t be released for DCS 2.0 Alpha and 1-5-3 Beta., leaving 1.5.3 stable unaffected. It must also be a PITA for the 3rd party dev's not to see their worl be brought on to the masses for testing. Seeing that posts made by Flagrum has been deleted is also not good. He above all has shown a poitive attitude all the way during tha last years and is to be found amongst the most helpfull and pro DCS member in this forum - that makes no sense for me. I don´t hope ED is going down the same lina as other sites, where Censcorising posts is the normal order of the day. FinnJ Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
TomCatMucDe Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 Problem might be taht ED at some point kind of promised to issue updates once a week. last friday we saw nothing, this friday also nothing. They promised news weekly, not DCS updates.
RNeves Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 I think the only problem here is that ED adopted some sort of a code of silence... Maybe if they said something about not having updates in the upcoming weeks, people around here would be more calm... Something like "we are not releasing no updates in the next weeks, because we are under a heavier workload" might help calming people down... Even if nothing was promised by ED... Their silence might give the idea of some arrogance from them... and yes, I know some users can't stand the absense of deadlines.... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Your eyes only see what your mind is ready to comprehend" ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Asus Z170 Pro Gaming - Intel I7-6700K - 16GB DDR4 @ 2400MHz HyperX Savage - Strix GTX 960 DC II 2GB OC Edition - Seagate 1TB
ED Team NineLine Posted June 11, 2016 ED Team Posted June 11, 2016 They promised news weekly, not DCS updates. Again, never promised. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
TomCatMucDe Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 Again, never promised. Read again please. I said they didn't promise update of the game. Only weekly news.
ED Team NineLine Posted June 11, 2016 ED Team Posted June 11, 2016 I think the only problem here is that ED adopted some sort of a code of silence... This is nothing new, they dont talk about new products until pre-release... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Raven68 Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 Read again please. I said they didn't promise update of the game. Only weekly news. Although it's being called weekly news I don't ever recall that ever being promised weekly also. Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional HP Reverb G2 /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
ED Team NineLine Posted June 11, 2016 ED Team Posted June 11, 2016 Read again please. I said they didn't promise update of the game. Only weekly news. Read again, they never promised anything Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Vitormouraa Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 Sorry for the question but did anyone from Eagle Dynamics say today we should have an update? as always, it all depends on internal testing, IF everything goes well, they release, why are you guys so mad? just because the update didn't happen? Come one! be patient. :) SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com
TomCatMucDe Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 Wags said in one stream there will be short weekly news. If that's not a promise then what is it? Until now there was every Friday a newsletter sometimes they said very little but still something. I understand you try to lower expectations as much as you can but the topic are DCS updates not news. My opinion is that it's totally fine if ED doesn't update for a couple of weeks. I'm sure they are not sitting around doing nothing but are quite busy. I only hope one day the architecture improve and allows independent mods that doesn't require ED to test changes of third party devs before updating. Maybe in DCS 3 maybe later. That's my opinion, I'm out
ED Team NineLine Posted June 11, 2016 ED Team Posted June 11, 2016 Wags said in one stream there will be short weekly news. If that's not a promise then what is it? Until now there was every Friday a newsletter sometimes they said very little but still something. I understand you try to lower expectations as much as you can but the topic are DCS updates not news. My opinion is that it's totally fine if ED doesn't update for a couple of weeks. I'm sure they are not sitting around doing nothing but are quite busy. I only hope one day the architecture improve and allows independent mods that doesn't require ED to test changes of third party devs before updating. Maybe in DCS 3 maybe later. That's my opinion, I'm out Its not a promise. They would try their best for weekly new updates, and patches, but it wont always work out. Wags promised me he would never use the word promise ;) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
ED Team NineLine Posted June 11, 2016 ED Team Posted June 11, 2016 This thread should also tell you why they are so silent on stuff, they cant say anything or else its taken as a promise or its written in stone... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
TomCatMucDe Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 Its not a promise. They would try their best for weekly new updates, and patches, but it wont always work out. Wags promised me he would never use the word promise ;) :D well yeah he didn't say "we promise" that would sound lame :D I hope we get the 2.5 soon and we get the Mirage out of Beta so we don't need recurrent updates.
Vitormouraa Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 Even though Matt is from ED, you can't really take it as fact, he was saying it could happen, he was considering if everything goes right, we would have an update, but again, it depends on internal testing, SiTh always says that. EVERYTHING IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE! SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com
cichlidfan Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 I hope we get the 2.5 soon and we get the Mirage out of Beta so we don't need recurrent updates. We will still need regular updates. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Raven68 Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 Wags said in one stream there will be short weekly news. If that's not a promise then what is it? Until now there was every Friday a newsletter sometimes they said very little but still something. I understand you try to lower expectations as much as you can but the topic are DCS updates not news. My opinion is that it's totally fine if ED doesn't update for a couple of weeks. I'm sure they are not sitting around doing nothing but are quite busy. I only hope one day the architecture improve and allows independent mods that doesn't require ED to test changes of third party devs before updating. Maybe in DCS 3 maybe later. That's my opinion, I'm out Speaking for myself I have no problem with your opinion and I tend to lean to the side of agreeing with you a bit. I just wanted a hard reference on where the promise came from. To be honest since the beginning of the year I can't recall a weekend where we didn't have any news and for the most part I have now come to expect it, but Matt's famous signature keeps coming to mind "EVERYTHING IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE" and that trumps my expectations. Its not a promise. They would try their best for weekly new updates, and patches, but it wont always work out. Wags promised me he would never use the word promise ;) A wise move in this community! Hey Sith do you think it's possible that Matt may touch on 2.5 progress a little bit in tomorrows live stream? :music_whistling: 1 Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional HP Reverb G2 /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
Vitormouraa Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 Hey Sith do you think it's possible that Matt may touch on 2.5 progress a little bit in tomorrows live stream? :music_whistling: That would be really cool, Raven! Let's hope for the best! :D 1 SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com
TomCatMucDe Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 DCS World Updates Discussion Speaking for myself I have no problem with your opinion and I tend to lean to the side of agreeing with you a bit. I just wanted a hard reference on where the promise came from. To be honest since the beginning of the year I can't recall a weekend where we didn't have any news and for the most part I have now come to expect it, but Matt's famous signature keeps coming to mind "EVERYTHING IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE" and that trumps my expectations. A wise move in this community! Hey Sith do you think it's possible that Matt may touch on 2.5 progress a little bit in tomorrows live stream? :music_whistling: It was in one of the streams but of course any professional wouldn't say "I promise" and I was talking about the "news" which is not the topic at all. They have been pushing news every Friday. Regarding 2.5, check out his last stream about VR in A10C He switches between Caucausus and NTTR maps. I believe it is indeed 2.5 (I'm not sure if he said it actually)
Flagrum Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 "promised" ... Continue this line, fill in the values for X, Y and Z :smartass:: 1 3 7 15 31 63 x y z ... Solution: Answer x=127 y=255 z=511 is wrong! I never promised that I would not change the rule and the correct answer is z=7 (we just skip x and y. Hrm? Because EVERYTHING IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE ...) :D 1
ED Team NineLine Posted June 12, 2016 ED Team Posted June 12, 2016 That would be really cool, Raven! Let's hope for the best! :D I never know for sure all he will go into, so its worth tuning in to see what he talks about, or sees on the tarmac :) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Davee Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 "promised" ... Continue this line, fill in the values for X, Y and Z :smartass:: 1 3 7 15 31 63 x y z ... Solution: Answer x=127 y=255 z=511 is wrong! I never promised that I would not change the rule and the correct answer is z=7 (we just skip x and y. Hrm? Because EVERYTHING IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE ...) :D 127, 255, 511 or generally . . . . . . 2 weeks. :)
ED Team NineLine Posted June 12, 2016 ED Team Posted June 12, 2016 Ok guys, back on topic please. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
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