AstroNomad Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Sergey_Pe said: Besides, the connector itself can be purchased from AliExpress or eBay- here is the link. That's a 5pin connector (which I think they used in the past). Are you saying that a 3pin XLR connector can be repurposed to work with VKB? That would solve some of my Rev A / Rev B issues... Thanks for the rubber bit info, that's encouraging!
Sergey_Pe Posted January 17, 2021 Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, AstroNomad said: That's a 5pin connector (which I think they used in the past). Are you saying that a 3pin XLR connector can be repurposed to work with VKB? That would solve some of my Rev A / Rev B issues... Sorry, you are right- I've automatically mentioned the old connector as I'm still using it in all my VKB gear: it's more reliable than the current 3-pin proprietary version. Not sure how easy/ difficult it would be to install a mating part into a Gladiator base... The info about removing the connector (both Rev. A and Rev. B) from the adapter is valid anyway. Edited January 18, 2021 by Sergey_Pe
Viper1970 Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 Hello guys, I also want to make some grip addons for my new Warthog system. I own many old FLCS sticks and that way I have about nearly 20 shift register pcb's from the FLCS lying arround. I know that it's possible two use those old shift registers with the Cougar or the Warthog base, but I couldn't find any wiring diagram for it anywhere. Someone in the forum here told that some hats are up side down and a few buttons don't work if you connect all the hats and switches like they were connected in the original FLCS and put those signals via a 5pole mini din to a warthog base. Has anyone a wiring diagram for the old FLCS shift registers to use with the Warthog or Cougar? Thank's in advance. CockpitPC1: R9 5950X|64GB DDR4|512GB M2SSD|2TB M2SSD|RTX3090|ReverbG2|Win11Pro - PC2: PhnIIX6 1100T|32GB DDR2|2x2TB HDD|2x GTX660 SLI|Win7Pro64 ComUnitPC1: R9 3900XT|32GB DDR4|2x2TB HDD|RTX2070|Win11Pro - PC2: PhnIIX6 1100T|16GB DDR2|2x2TB HDD|GTX660|Win7Pro64 ComUnitPC3: AthlnIIX2 250|2GB DDR2|2TB HDD|5950Ultra|2xVoodooII SLI|WinXPPro32&WinME - PC4: K6-2+|768MB SDR|640GB HDD|Geforce256DDR|VoodooI|Win98SE
AstroNomad Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 8 hours ago, Viper1970 said: Hello guys, I also want to make some grip addons for my new Warthog system. I own many old FLCS sticks and that way I have about nearly 20 shift register pcb's from the FLCS lying arround. I know that it's possible two use those old shift registers with the Cougar or the Warthog base, but I couldn't find any wiring diagram for it anywhere. Someone in the forum here told that some hats are up side down and a few buttons don't work if you connect all the hats and switches like they were connected in the original FLCS and put those signals via a 5pole mini din to a warthog base. Has anyone a wiring diagram for the old FLCS shift registers to use with the Warthog or Cougar? Thank's in advance. Nice idea mate, I didn't know this was possible. +1 subscribed for this.
Viper1970 Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) I know it's possible. Someone has already made it and showed a Video of it on Youtube, but he also mentioned that it's not a 1:1 solution. Some minor things are different and you have to change some pins. It would be nice to know what exactly is different, so you have a smaller chance to fry the Warthog or the Cougar . P.S: Maybe I will try it. If you don't tumble the pinout oft the mini din plug and take a bit care of the rest, all what could happen is that some hats are up side down or something similar. To fix this you have to do some trial and error. Just found this about such a project: Edited January 26, 2021 by Viper1970 CockpitPC1: R9 5950X|64GB DDR4|512GB M2SSD|2TB M2SSD|RTX3090|ReverbG2|Win11Pro - PC2: PhnIIX6 1100T|32GB DDR2|2x2TB HDD|2x GTX660 SLI|Win7Pro64 ComUnitPC1: R9 3900XT|32GB DDR4|2x2TB HDD|RTX2070|Win11Pro - PC2: PhnIIX6 1100T|16GB DDR2|2x2TB HDD|GTX660|Win7Pro64 ComUnitPC3: AthlnIIX2 250|2GB DDR2|2TB HDD|5950Ultra|2xVoodooII SLI|WinXPPro32&WinME - PC4: K6-2+|768MB SDR|640GB HDD|Geforce256DDR|VoodooI|Win98SE
AstroNomad Posted February 9, 2021 Posted February 9, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 3:59 PM, Viper1970 said: P.S: Maybe I will try it. If you don't tumble the pinout oft the mini din plug and take a bit care of the rest, all what could happen is that some hats are up side down or something similar. To fix this you have to do some trial and error. Did you give it a shot? I realised I could just solder a 5 pin JST onto the FLCS shift register PCB where it normally contacts with its original base, so as to be able to connect the register board with the VKB adapter. I am waiting for parts, but I also don't know the wire diagram for those 5 wires that lead into to base... Probably very similar to Warthog/Cougar diagram that was posted here a few times, but no way to tell for sure. And in any case, I don't know how VKB expects to read those, it could be different to the TM DIN.
Viper1970 Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) Hi, not at the moment. I'm just trying to built my own controls for my homepit project for the F-14 (throttle), the F-15 (stick and throttle), the F/A-18 (throttle) and AH-64D (cyclic and collective) and after all this 3D-work I will do the interfacing with the Warthog electronics and the rest of the electronics of my TM stuff, I wanted to use for it. Edited February 10, 2021 by Viper1970 CockpitPC1: R9 5950X|64GB DDR4|512GB M2SSD|2TB M2SSD|RTX3090|ReverbG2|Win11Pro - PC2: PhnIIX6 1100T|32GB DDR2|2x2TB HDD|2x GTX660 SLI|Win7Pro64 ComUnitPC1: R9 3900XT|32GB DDR4|2x2TB HDD|RTX2070|Win11Pro - PC2: PhnIIX6 1100T|16GB DDR2|2x2TB HDD|GTX660|Win7Pro64 ComUnitPC3: AthlnIIX2 250|2GB DDR2|2TB HDD|5950Ultra|2xVoodooII SLI|WinXPPro32&WinME - PC4: K6-2+|768MB SDR|640GB HDD|Geforce256DDR|VoodooI|Win98SE
185th_Pegasus Posted February 10, 2021 Posted February 10, 2021 Hi, Sorry if this has already been asked/answered, but is it possible to get the STL files to print parts on my own 3D printer? A friend of mine has broken the Thrustmaster Warthog joystick tailpiece and I am hoping to get him back up and running quickly by printing the part myself. If it were me, I would order the metal part, and he might end up doing that anyway. Thanks, Pegasus
crash test pilot Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 Hi Debolestis, I just ordered your PS-3 ministick amplifier board from oshpark and after reading this thread I got a little confused about the resistors. So to make it sure: Are the Values printed on the Board (4 * 100 k ohms, 2 * 1 m ohms and 2 * 4,7 k ohms) correct? Thank you!
Couby Posted February 4, 2022 Posted February 4, 2022 Hi Debolestis, awesome work here I'm discovering. Any documentation somewhere about your boards on oshpark ? (BOM, application exemples, recommendations...) Airman, maker & digital explorer My F-14 stick project Retrieve me on Instagram or Twitter
Johan4668 Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 Question.. Thrustmaster base and custom stick.. in joy.cpl the buttons are not working and flickering... i use debolestis print 8 register 1 10k resistor and CD4021BE.. can someone help me on that? dis there a difference between 4021 chips? gr Johan
Johan4668 Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 When I do nothing the buttons are all off.. and pressure a button all buttons are flashing in joy.cpl
Guest Posted May 27, 2023 Posted May 27, 2023 Hi all, can I still purchase some replacement sensors for my original Cougar stick? I understand that I should go for some GVL ones. Any help gratefully received. have a good flight '52
ddrake1984 Posted January 6, 2024 Posted January 6, 2024 @debolestis do you do parts for WINWING? I am interested in an F16 angle adapter for their Joystick Grip to Base and I am interested in WINWING F16 throttle MAN Range/Uncage knob and Antenna Elevation Dial
scuba82 Posted July 6, 2024 Posted July 6, 2024 (edited) Am 25.6.2020 um 23:52 schrieb crash test pilot: Nope. No shorting. I tested it with my multimeter. I have a pro micro, so I plugged the x-fighter to it, and it shows correctly only the pressed buttons. Windows joy-cpl and vkb-buttontest still show 11-18 as pressed when I use the wh base. Again, I am willing to see this as a cosmetic problem; as long as I do not map these buttons in dcs, no harm is done, but I am still curious about the how and why. I have to bring up this topic since I was running into the same issue and have found a solution. My Setup: - Debolestis Board with 2 Shift registers. (CD4021BE ) - Thrustmaster Warthog base (2019) The issue: Every "single" button press is detected without any issue. As soon as I activate two buttons at the same time (no matter which 2 buttons eg. Both Trigger stages), the buttons "11" as well as "hat switch up" are recognized as pushed too. The solution: Adding a 100nF capacitor between VCC and GND on the second CD4021BE (which has no cap) solved the issue for me. I can only explain it to me that the second shift register doesnt get enough power from the warthog base and falls into an inconsistant state, reporting the wrong pin states. Hope that helps someone @debolestis Edited July 6, 2024 by scuba82 1 1
JuanZapata04 Posted September 15, 2024 Posted September 15, 2024 (edited) Hey @debolestis I've heard that shapeways announced bankruptcy, will there be an alternative way to buy your products? I'm really interested on getting the DMS Castle switch and I have no other idea where I can get it in other place like idk, etsy or some sort of alternative? Edited September 17, 2024 by JuanZapata04 2
debolestis Posted September 24, 2024 Author Posted September 24, 2024 I can print parts myself, if anybody need something please send me a message. I was away for a while. I am back now. 1 2 - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
debolestis Posted October 3, 2024 Author Posted October 3, 2024 Would there be any interest in machined aluminum Warthog tailpieces? Since there is no Shapeways anymore I need to find alternatives. I can order parts in bulk but it is risky if nobody would buy them. Price would be around 50€ per part plus shipping 5-6€. Parts would be machined, not printed, so quality would be much, much better than original part. Jut let me know. Thank you. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
MAXsenna Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 Would there be any interest in machined aluminum Warthog tailpieces? Since there is no Shapeways anymore I need to find alternatives. I can order parts in bulk but it is risky if nobody would buy them. Price would be around 50€ per part plus shipping 5-6€. Parts would be machined, not printed, so quality would be much, much better than original part. Jut let me know. Thank you. Depends, or on second thoughts. Yes! But, if you are gonna do that, why not just redesign the whole thing to get rid of the potential breaking point? If you understand what I mean. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
debolestis Posted October 3, 2024 Author Posted October 3, 2024 Breaking point was terrible quality of material chosen for original tailpiece. Also it was casted and not machined on CNC. I made this one thicker in important places, it is visible that top opening is more narrow than original. 1 - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
MAXsenna Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 Breaking point was terrible quality of material chosen for original tailpiece. Also it was casted and not machined on CNC. I made this one thicker in important places, it is visible that top opening is more narrow than original.Ah, okay. Then I'm interested. Now, how many? Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
debolestis Posted October 3, 2024 Author Posted October 3, 2024 I need at least 5 people willing to buy. 1 - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal
zcaa0g Posted October 5, 2024 Posted October 5, 2024 On 10/3/2024 at 12:57 PM, debolestis said: I need at least 5 people willing to buy. I would be up for 2. One for the Warthog grip and one for the Hornet grip. You take PayPal?
313 SQN JD Posted May 31 Posted May 31 On 10/3/2024 at 11:45 AM, debolestis said: Would there be any interest in machined aluminum Warthog tailpieces? Since there is no Shapeways anymore I need to find alternatives. I can order parts in bulk but it is risky if nobody would buy them. Price would be around 50€ per part plus shipping 5-6€. Parts would be machined, not printed, so quality would be much, much better than original part. Jut let me know. Thank you. I am interested as well!
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