Operation "Blue Flag" - 24/7 PvP Campaign - ROUND 5

[NaCH]

Rude? I don't believe so... while it would suck for people with high pings it isn't fair for everyone else that 1 player with a super high ping can ruin it for everyone else. Nobody WANTS to exclude people, but in situations like this it is really for the better.

 

Eventually, if blueflag continues to evolve and be as popular as it is I wouldn't be surprised to see it on servers in other locations in the world... depending on how the buddyspike folks want to handle that.

 

 

When I have someone ED to explain to me how the netcode works on his product I will accept the "high ping" theory and I will never say like I saw yesterday on the chat " people don't understand how the netcode of this games works "....

 

 

I have been seeing blue players with 50 or 100 of ping warping all over the place specially when they have missile incoming.

I even saw that at the same time they are flaring they take screenshots......

 

Last but not least I even removed my self of the equation, disconnecting from the server and asking buddy's in redfor with 50 ping if they still see the same blue guys warping on they answer is always yes....

 

 

There are times that on the weekend the lag was so huge is like you see warping all over the place. making smoke pillars that goes to the infinite and this was affecting everyone.

[Oznerol256]

Oh yeah and the model visibility enhancement seems to be no longer forced off. Very annoying as sam systems can now be spotted from miles away.

[NaCH]

This has become a full time job.

War is tough.

 

hahaha agreed!

[NaCH]

Pls make the airbase refueling by AI choppers too. This is annoying, as I couldn't even spawn on Maykop anymore because of no fuel... Had to come from Krasnodar all the way. Also, on Krasnodar, 0% fuel instead of 20% at spawn.

 

No!

Daniel... get a chopper and start refueling... and also DON't DIE or land then respawn in another place.

 

I even saw red players respawing or crashing at take off!!!

 

 

Yesterady I more than 6 flights of Mi8 to refuel Maykop... and I saw my follow red pilots going dead or going kamikaze .... take care of your lifes don't go and just die or run out of fuel!!!

 

LEARN to play defensive and value the spawns....

[TheSnark]

NaCH speaks the truth! I quite often find a airfield run completely dry in the morning!

[sirscorpion]

First off, I love this mod, truly how the game is to be played.

 

I know the lives system is supposed to be something to add to the game, Hell i love it, it adds so much tension . But I lost 3 out of 4 last night simply to the server lag crashing or mass drops.

 

Can we get a few more lives till things stabilize a bit? 6 will be perfect I think.

 

In regards to model visibility, I would like to see at least a Small one "when its fixed". It will go a long way for low tech aircraft like the 21, and Help a ton with re acquiring warping targets.

 

Overall Love the mod, and great work.

[D4n]

NaCH I can't afford buying the Huey or Mi-8 module!

[Darkwolf]

I even saw red players respawing or crashing at take off!!!

 

Obviously. When Mi-8 is started and it takes a few second to load the cockpit, accidents happen ;)

[Sporg]

Hey, does this mean that there is really need for heli pilots now?

I have been a little reluctant to join, because earlier it was mostly fighter pilots that were needed.

And I need practice/was not feeling proficient in fighters.

[Foka1]

Ok RED guys. Who was talking with ВАРЯГ yesterday? He wants to play for BLUE side next round now FYI. What is your problem with those russian guys?

 

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Arcus33

ВАРЯГ

WildCat

 

They doing a good job, please stop harass them, even if they didn't talk with you, they do bring a lot of benefits to RED team.

 

If you don't believe me I can show you recording of my stream where me and ВАРЯГ have captured three airfields in one round. I was deploying troops, ВАРЯГ was just destroying everything...

 

ВАРЯГ qoute "there is a many fathers of victory, but defeat is always an orphan"

Edited February 22, 2016 by P61

[Toxic]

Server crashed again. At night... AGAIN!

 

Can we take night out or something? Also, there is no GCI slots available.

[Foka1]

I must also say that player balance is better this week IMHO. Instead of balance I would look at FUEL mechanics in next round.

 

Just take initial airfields from both sides. To refuel any BLUE airfield you need to travel almost two times less than same on RED side. On north at least.

 

+1 to choppers should have limited lives. But number of lives should be researched. It should be limited so choppers couldn't just spam airframes, and at the same time it should be something that one can hardly spend in 6 hours. I'm spending 3 lives for 2 hours in average in HOT environment. Today I spent 1 life for 3 hours traveling from Krasnodar to nalchik FARP (we captured two FARPs on the way), but there wasn't coordination on BLUE side. And without GCI fighter has a hard time to spot chopper.

[0xDEADBEEF]

Hey, does this mean that there is really need for heli pilots now?

I have been a little reluctant to join, because earlier it was mostly fighter pilots that were needed.

And I need practice/was not feeling proficient in fighters.

 

yes, choppers are now bigger than ever!

[0xDEADBEEF]

everything is closed after restart, except minvody, sochi and gudauta plus a couple of farps ...

[Oznerol256]

everything is closed after restart, except minvody, sochi and gudauta plus a couple of farps ...

 

I second that. Please fix GCI slots, model enlargement and closed airfields.

[atonium83]

Hey guys, Iv'e got a really annoying bug on this server (and only on this), I can't load a center fuel tank on the Mirage 2000C, 'cause the fuel tank is anavailable for the point 5 of this plane. But this occur just for me and when a frien take my plane he can load the center fuel tank....

 

Here is a screen:

 

 

Thanks in advance for your answers.

[QuiGon]

I second that. Please fix GCI slots, model enlargement and closed airfields.

 

Pls don't remove model enlargement. It is a good thing and is especially needed for MiG-21 pilots, but also all the other non-radar aircraft and helicopters to spot enemies/threats.

So I would say force it to medium model enlargement, since large models are a bit too obvious.

[0xDEADBEEF]

seems the server crashed again. we waited for 30 minutes till we could finally get into fighters to fight off the blue strikers that already took off from sochi, when we got on station the game froze for all of us. Server is displayed up and full with all the dropped players on it (including me, according to the app)

[Oznerol256]

Pls don't remove model enlargement. It is a good thing and is especially needed for MiG-21 pilots, but also all the other non-radar aircraft and helicopters to spot enemies/threats.

So I would say force it to medium model enlargement, since large models are a bit too obvious.

 

Mig21s are pretty much the only aircraft benefiting from the unrealistic implementation of model enlargement that ED has created. I agree that we need some visibility improvements in dcs, but the current solution is immersion breaking, unrealistic and destroys the helicopter sam site defense tactic that was introduced for this round.

 

If you want a possible solution for the model enlargement please take a look at this thread: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=160634

 

Until a system like this has become stock DCS, please force model enlargement off on the server.

Edited February 22, 2016 by Oznerol256

[sirscorpion]

I think model enlargment should stay on, there are 4 issues atm.

 

1 the Su25t and the Ka-50 cameras are having issues spoting things on the ground with out it they simply blend in.

 

2nd part is that Mig21 need to be competitive in regards to the game follow in Blue flags. along with that when the server Has lagg issues the mig21 radar does not work outright"some times". It needs to be a viable choice.

 

3rd, The resolution effect is different from one PC to the other, some people can not see anything , simply do to them having non standard res.

 

4th, Lagg and warping, making it easier to re-acquire VID in a heavy lag game play.

 

I wont be asking for this as i think the current implementation is not too great, but over all even though not perfect it is a good temporary solution to the issues stated above, Yea it might be "immersion for some" But it not only does that but utterly breaks the game in limited life mod when you lose a target cuz it just lag UFO from your 12 to your 6.

[104th_Maverick]

please force model enlargement it off on the server.

 

The current settings are way to OP, you can see aircraft from 20nm without radar!

 

The further you zoom out the larger the aircraft gets. This totally wrecks the whole 'realism' ethos the Campaign is going for.

 

Please turn it off again :)

[Oznerol256]

I think model enlargment should stay on, there are 4 issues atm.

 

1 the Su25t and the Ka-50 cameras are having issues spoting things on the ground with out it they simply blend in.

 

2nd part is that Mig21 need to be competitive in regards to the game follow in Blue flags. along with that when the server Has lagg issues the mig21 radar does not work outright"some times". It needs to be a viable choice.

 

3rd, The resolution effect is different from one PC to the other, some people can not see anything , simply do to them having non standard res.

 

4th, Lagg and warping, making it easier to re-acquire VID in a heavy lag game play.

 

I wont be asking for this as i think the current implementation is not too great, but over all even though not perfect it is a good temporary solution to the issues stated above, Yea it might be "immersion for some" But it not only does that but utterly breaks the game in limited life mod when you lose a target cuz it just lag UFO from your 12 to your 6.

 

Model visibility still depents on resolution. So resolution is not a valid argument for model visibility. Again, see the thread i linked for more info about how the enlargement is broken: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=160634

 

Su25ts and Ka50s have the same issues spotting things that A-10Cs with their TGPs. Model visibility is a cheat for this and it breaks the defence systems since they can be spotted from 30 miles away.

 

Mig21s are a very old aircraft and they are by definition weaker than F-15Cs simple because of the age of the aircraft. I dont think the entire campaign should be changed just to make it easier for Mig21 pilots insisting on taking such an old aircraft against modern fighters.

[QuiGon]

;2688070']The current settings are way to OP, you can see aircraft from 20nm without radar!

 

The further you zoom out the larger the aircraft gets. This totally wrecks the whole 'realism' ethos the Campaign is going for.

 

Please turn it off again :)

 

What is the current setting? I think it's not enforced by the server anymore, so it depends on the client setting. I would say forcing small ir medium enlargemebt is a good compromise. Large is definately too much. If only the ground units wouldn't be so overdone :(

Mig21s are a very old aircraft and they are by definition weaker than F-15Cs simple because of the age of the aircraft. I dont think the entire campaign should be changed just to make it easier for Mig21 pilots insisting on taking such an old aircraft against modern fighters.

It's unrealistically difficult for the MiG-21 (or any aircraft) to spot other aircraft visually without enlargement. The enlargemebt functionality made WW2 missions enjoyable finally. They were horrible before because spotting was so unrealistically difficult.

Edited February 22, 2016 by QuiGon

[Frostie]

Model enlargement just negates radar usage. Who needs to give away his position with a radar or scan madly with EOS when he can see aircraft for 20nm.

If you fly MIG-21 do what you're supposed to do and follow GCI commands to intercept.

[Proctoron]

I cant even see planes when im merged so i end up flying in circles, now i can see them at least :-D