mvsgas Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 416th FLTS working to upgrade F-16 radar Maintenance personnel install mounting hardware for an APG-83 Scalable Agile Beam Radar on a 416th Flight Test Squadron F-16 Fighting Falcon in August 2015. The 416th FLTS has been conducting developmental testing on the fifth-generation Active Electronically Scanned Array fire control radar. (U.S. Air Force photo by Christopher Okula) For more info: http://www.edwards.af.mil/News/Article/1128256/416th-flts-working-to-upgrade-f-16-radar To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Basher54321 Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 Faster guys - got to get em in before those F-15Cs are retired :lol:
mvsgas Posted March 29, 2017 Posted March 29, 2017 2 To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
mvsgas Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
mvsgas Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) Air Force authorises extended life for F-16 U.S. Air Force Authorizes Extended Service Life for F-16 rammKqmlogc Edited April 13, 2017 by mvsgas 1 To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Svend_Dellepude Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 I miss it sooo much in DCS.. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD.
mvsgas Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Pilotasso Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Got news this week the Portuguese MOD has recommended the upgrade of the existing F-16AM fleet to V standard as opposed to buying 5th gen aircraft on the basis that the upgrade is 1/10 of the cost. But on the other hand the upgrade will only postpone the purchase of new aircraft by just 10 years. This is just a recommendation, no decisions have been taken yet. .
Guram Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJDEWtLJkBk A nice documentary
Frederf Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 I would prefer an F-16A Block 25, APG-66, Sparrows and AIM-9s, no chin music, single MFD, look down radar scope, interval-based bomb train, analog FLCS. A challenging and interesting airplane for sure.
mvsgas Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 I would prefer an F-16A Block 25, APG-66, Sparrows and AIM-9s, no chin music, single MFD, look down radar scope, interval-based bomb train, analog FLCS. A challenging and interesting airplane for sure. You are confusing several aircraft; A models are from block 1 to 20. Only block 15 and below had a single display. The display was only for radar and E/O (i.e. a Maverick missile) not a MFD. Of the block 15, AFAIK, only US air defense fighter (ADF) could carry AIM-7. Aditionally block 25 is a C model with many additional features. Finally block 1 to 32 use analog flight control computer. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
RyboPops Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 block 1 to 32 use analog flight control computer. Not all Block 30/32 jets are analog.
mvsgas Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) Not all Block 30/32 jets are analog. You got some tail numbers? Did the flight control panel look like this one? VOeXKWRxaMc Edited April 20, 2017 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
RyboPops Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 I don't have any tail numbers, but I'll look for the article. It talked about some of the stuff they do/did to the 416th/422nd birds, some of which I think are now in Guard units.
Frederf Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 You are confusing several aircraft; A models are from block 1 to 20. Only block 15 and below had a single display. The display was only for radar and E/O (i.e. a Maverick missile) not a MFD. Of the block 15, AFAIK, only US air defense fighter (ADF) could carry AIM-7. Aditionally block 25 is a C model with many additional features. Finally block 1 to 32 use analog flight control computer. I started typing about the block 10 but changed to 25 for AIM-7 capability. Was the block 10 really only AIM-9 capable?
mvsgas Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) I don't have any tail numbers, but I'll look for the article. It talked about some of the stuff they do/did to the 416th/422nd birds, some of which I think are now in Guard units. Ok. You do know that the 416th is a test squadron and it's aircraft will have many things different from the rest of the fleet right? I started typing about the block 10 but changed to 25 for AIM-7 capability. Was the block 10 really only AIM-9 capable? It depends. AFAIK, yes. But some where upgraded later on. For example there are some Danish block 10 that where upgraded to can carry AIM-120 but never AIM-7. Even block 40/42 when first introduce where only AIM-9 capable. Edited April 21, 2017 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
mvsgas Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 I found this about block 30, tail # 86-0359 Special characteristics: Aircraft has block 50 modifications, GE-129 engine and mount for anti-spin chute. Major Russel Prechtl broke 3000 hours in this aircraft. Nose art was provided by Paramoutn Studios as that company adopted the unit. Here is a list of all F-16 assigned to the 416th http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/view_airframes_byadvancedsearch/actype/F-16 To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
RyboPops Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Ok. You do know that the 416th is a test squadron and it's aircraft will have many things different from the rest of the fleet right? Yes I'm well aware. You stated that all block 30/32 had analog FLCC and I've read about ones that had been upgraded to the DFLCC. Whether or not they're in a T&E squadron doesn't change the block so I figured they were free game to talk about. I still haven't found the article I was thinking of though. I think I read it in an FWR article, or maybe an AFIT pub. I'll keep digging for it because it had some cool details on the conversion process, some of the setbacks they encountered, and how they overcame them. Edited April 21, 2017 by RyboPops
SkateZilla Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 you should see what test sqns did to their tomcats... crazy.... Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Seaeagle Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 It depends. AFAIK, yes. But some where upgraded later on. For example there are some Danish block 10 that where upgraded to can carry AIM-120 but never AIM-7. I don't think thats the case mvsgas. As discussed previously, Danish F-16AMs are a mix of "MLU'ed" block 10 and block 15 aircraft and the former are still not AMRAAM capable - apparently due to structural limitation of the block 10 airframe.
mvsgas Posted April 22, 2017 Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) Yes I'm well aware. You stated that all block 30/32 had analog FLCC and I've read about ones that had been upgraded to the DFLCC. Whether or not they're in a T&E squadron doesn't change the block so I figured they were free game to talk about. I still haven't found the article I was thinking of though. I think I read it in an FWR article, or maybe an AFIT pub. I'll keep digging for it because it had some cool details on the conversion process, some of the setbacks they encountered, and how they overcame them. Well let me know when you find the article. The fact that I wanted to clarify about T&E squadrons is that those aircraft have to be converted to original status before being used by an operational unit IIRC. I don't think thats the case mvsgas. As discussed previously, Danish F-16AMs are a mix of "MLU'ed" block 10 and block 15 aircraft and the former are still not AMRAAM capable - apparently due to structural limitation of the block 10 airframe. I forgot that conversation, started back at post #204, 260 etc. Edited April 22, 2017 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Seaeagle Posted April 22, 2017 Posted April 22, 2017 I forgot that conversation, started back at post #204, 260 etc. Hehe no problem - long thread :) . Anyway, as far as I can gather, only the F-16A ADF version operated by the US ANG(and later export customers in the Middle East) was made compatible with the AIM-7. AFAIK these were originally Block-15 airframes upgraded to Block-15 OCU + further modifications(including radar support for the AIM-7). Even block 40/42 when first introduced where only AIM-9 capable. Yes but IIRC block 40/42 were introduced in 1989 - i.e. a couple of years before the AIM-120 itself started to enter service. I could imagine that they(and perhaps even earlier F-16C/D blocks) could have had provision for the AMRAAM from the outset(as was the case with the F/A-18C).
mvsgas Posted April 22, 2017 Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) Yes but IIRC block 40/42 were introduced in 1989 - i.e. a couple of years before the AIM-120 itself started to enter service. I could imagine that they(and perhaps even earlier F-16C/D blocks) could have had provision for the AMRAAM from the outset(as was the case with the F/A-18C). I was answering Frederf about AIM-7 capabilities when I mention the block 40/42, attempting to point to the fact that even some of the latest blocks did not get BVR missiles capabilities until the mid to late 1990's. As mention previously on this thread, only AIM-7 capable block 40/42 I have seen are from Egypt AF. According to F-16.net, first block 40 was 87-0350 delivered in 1988. First block 42 was 87-0356 delivered in 1989. Edited April 22, 2017 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Seaeagle Posted April 22, 2017 Posted April 22, 2017 I was answering Frederf about AIM-7 capabilities when I mention the block 40/42, attempting to point to the fact that even some of the latest blocks did not get BVR missiles capabilities until the mid to late 1990's. Yes I understood that - just wondered whether block 40/42 might have been prepared for the AIM-120 prior to the weapon itself coming "online". I could not find any info on AIM-7 in connection with F-16C/D versions. As mention previously on this thread, only AIM-7 capable block 40/42 I have seen are from Egypt AF. Ok I missed that - thanks.
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