mr_mojo97 Posted February 20, 2016 Posted February 20, 2016 This is so difficult. 1. How do you switch off the landing gear alarm? 2. When I make precontact the S-3 goes from 220 to 350 knots so by the time I've caught up again to try and dock with the probe I get a warning to pre-contact again then the S-3 slows back down to 220 again making me overshoot by a mile! On so it goes on and on. Never have managed to get put the thing in the thing. I was fine with the A-10C Any help and tips please. Ta MSI M5 z270 | Intel i5 7600k (OC) 4.8GHz | MSI GTX1080ti Gaming X 11Gb | 500gb Samsung 970 Evo NVME M.2 (DCS World) | 500gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD (OS and Apps) | 32Gb 2400MHz DDR4 - Crucial Ballistix | Be Quiet Silent Loop 240mm | NZXT H440 case | Thrustmaster Warthog - 47608 with Virpil Mongoose joystick base | MFG Crosswinds - 1241 | Westland Lynx collective with Bodnar X board | Pilot's seat from ZH832 Merlin | JetSeat | Oculus Rift S | Windows 10 | VA |
joey45 Posted February 20, 2016 Posted February 20, 2016 Happens to me as well. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
speckfire Posted February 20, 2016 Posted February 20, 2016 Yup same here, identical problem with the IL-78 Speed is life !!!
nomdeplume Posted February 20, 2016 Posted February 20, 2016 If you're using your own mission, you should change the tanker's enroute speed to approximately match the speed it'll fly during the refuel. 454 knots in the mission editor @ 16,000 feet works fairly well for me.
Zeus67 Posted February 20, 2016 Posted February 20, 2016 Anything below 260 knots is too slow for the M-2000C, that is why the landing gear alarm is triggered. Actually, anything under 300 knots is too slow for a pure delta wing. Do as nomdeplume said, increase the tanker speed to a safer one. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
joey45 Posted February 20, 2016 Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) I have increased the speed but it still happens, I might be doing something wrong.m2kLoop.zip Edited February 20, 2016 by joey45 The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Eddie Posted February 20, 2016 Posted February 20, 2016 The published optimum airspeed for refueling the M-2000C is 305KCAS / M0.80 at FL250.
speckfire Posted February 20, 2016 Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) I had the IL-78 set to fly at 6000m with a speed of 850 km/h. The mission starts and he's flying at 600 km/h instead. As soon as I ask for pre-contact and I get the ok he starts booting it... I am baffled. I have no issues with the SU-33 Edited February 20, 2016 by speckfire Adding info. Speed is life !!!
mr_mojo97 Posted February 20, 2016 Author Posted February 20, 2016 I tried it both in 1.5.3 and 2.0 with the same results. So in the mission editor when you change the speed- is that enroute speed or the tanking speed? It's just crap that the tanker slams on the anchors back to 220kts if you lose contact by being out of range and have to recontact again before gradually speeding back up. Not sure if that's a bug or what. Hope it can get fixed though, I remember the a2a refuelling with the A-10c had issues for quite some time. MSI M5 z270 | Intel i5 7600k (OC) 4.8GHz | MSI GTX1080ti Gaming X 11Gb | 500gb Samsung 970 Evo NVME M.2 (DCS World) | 500gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD (OS and Apps) | 32Gb 2400MHz DDR4 - Crucial Ballistix | Be Quiet Silent Loop 240mm | NZXT H440 case | Thrustmaster Warthog - 47608 with Virpil Mongoose joystick base | MFG Crosswinds - 1241 | Westland Lynx collective with Bodnar X board | Pilot's seat from ZH832 Merlin | JetSeat | Oculus Rift S | Windows 10 | VA |
xxJohnxx Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 That accelerating/decelarating of the tanker indeed is anyoing. Even if I can connect I won't get any fuel, like it has been pre 1.5.3. Wondering what step I am missing... Check out my YouTube: xxJohnxx Intel i7 6800k watercooled | ASUS Rampage V Edition 10 | 32 GB RAM | Asus GTX1080 watercooled
=DECOY= Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 threw I thought I was the only one. I have the same issue with the mirage. Water cooled i9-9900K | Maximus Code XI MB | RTX3090 | 64GB | HP Reverb G2
spiddx Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Even if I can connect I won't get any fuel, like it has been pre 1.5.3. Wondering what step I am missing... Flipped the Fuel Transfer switch? Specs: i9 10900K @ 5.1 GHz, EVGA GTX 1080Ti, MSI Z490 MEG Godlike, 32GB DDR4 @ 3600, Win 10, Samsung S34E790C, Vive, TIR5, 10cm extended Warthog on WarBRD, Crosswinds
AG-51_Razor Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Have you checked the tanker speed in the advanced waypoint actions? I find that the speed I set for the tanker in the normal waypoints is always different than the one that is shown in the advanced waypoint actions. I have not had any trouble with the tanker's speed, I just am having a hell of a time getting settled down and not overcontrolling. I have not had any trouble with the VF-113 mod of the F/A-18C getting plugged into the basket and staying plugged in until finished. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
xxJohnxx Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Flipped the Fuel Transfer switch? Where is that? Couldn't find anything on the panel with the fuel gauge... Check out my YouTube: xxJohnxx Intel i7 6800k watercooled | ASUS Rampage V Edition 10 | 32 GB RAM | Asus GTX1080 watercooled
PiedDroit Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Where is that? Couldn't find anything on the panel with the fuel gauge... It's hidden on the left wall, right below the hook/parachute lever.
Whisper Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Wait, I missed the news..... air refueling in Mirage is now functionnal? Whisper of old OFP & C6 forums, now Kalbuth. Specs : i7 6700K / MSI 1070 / 32G RAM / SSD / Rift S / Virpil MongooseT50 / Virpil T50 CM2 Throttle / MFG Crosswind. All but Viggen, Yak52 & F16
DArt Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Wait, I missed the news..... air refueling in Mirage is now functionnal? Affirm, and it is well working, be sure to up the airfuel switch shown by PiedDroit ;) [ https://www.lotatc.com ]
Whisper Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Wonderfull. Keep it up, you're doing a superb job! Whisper of old OFP & C6 forums, now Kalbuth. Specs : i7 6700K / MSI 1070 / 32G RAM / SSD / Rift S / Virpil MongooseT50 / Virpil T50 CM2 Throttle / MFG Crosswind. All but Viggen, Yak52 & F16
YoYo Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Wonderfull. Keep it up, you're doing a superb job! Just be prepar for really hard job. Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 5090 32Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
Whisper Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Just be prepar for really hard job. Should be easier than the eagle boom-in-the-back, shouldn't it? (not that I have it easy in the 15.... :( ) That said, memories of basket refueling in Jane's FA18 are nightmarish..... Whisper of old OFP & C6 forums, now Kalbuth. Specs : i7 6700K / MSI 1070 / 32G RAM / SSD / Rift S / Virpil MongooseT50 / Virpil T50 CM2 Throttle / MFG Crosswind. All but Viggen, Yak52 & F16
mr_mojo97 Posted February 21, 2016 Author Posted February 21, 2016 Well it did take an awful lot of practice with the A-10 eventually had around 170 full refuels before I stopped flying it (slew control packed in on the warthog throttle) so will see how much practice the Mirage needs! MSI M5 z270 | Intel i5 7600k (OC) 4.8GHz | MSI GTX1080ti Gaming X 11Gb | 500gb Samsung 970 Evo NVME M.2 (DCS World) | 500gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD (OS and Apps) | 32Gb 2400MHz DDR4 - Crucial Ballistix | Be Quiet Silent Loop 240mm | NZXT H440 case | Thrustmaster Warthog - 47608 with Virpil Mongoose joystick base | MFG Crosswinds - 1241 | Westland Lynx collective with Bodnar X board | Pilot's seat from ZH832 Merlin | JetSeat | Oculus Rift S | Windows 10 | VA |
PiedDroit Posted February 27, 2016 Posted February 27, 2016 I'm really struggling with it right now, I find much harder than with A-10C. The big difference is that with A-10C the operator guides the boom, so you only need to have a stable flight behind the tanker. There is no one to guide the basket, and when you start oscillating things get really ugly, quickly. Also the Mirage is much more snappy than the A-10C, aggravating said oscillations. I will continue practicing... So far one effective technique I found is to focus on putting the FPM at the same time on the basket and on the horizon. Then focus on keeping the FPM very close to the horizon, to limit altitude changes when readjusting altitude. After connection, trying to stay in formation by using the FPM again, but I have yet to find a good visual reference as the tanker is then almost completely hidden by the canopy. Usually I stay connected only a few seconds :doh: The fact that M-2000C is WIP also doesn't make the task easy, S-3B changes speed while refueling (discussed here). Also I don't always trust the artificial horizon as it has a tendency to shift a bit when banking.
Rlaxoxo Posted February 27, 2016 Posted February 27, 2016 I don't really get what's so difficult but okay [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
Enduro14 Posted February 27, 2016 Posted February 27, 2016 you just got to stick it into the hole sort of a natural thing hehehe Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S
xxJohnxx Posted February 27, 2016 Posted February 27, 2016 I'm really struggling with it right now, I find much harder than with A-10C. [...] Maybe that helps out a bit: Check out my YouTube: xxJohnxx Intel i7 6800k watercooled | ASUS Rampage V Edition 10 | 32 GB RAM | Asus GTX1080 watercooled
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