tommytank Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Been an expensive week. A 4k monitor led to a new GPU (R9 390x). All good until all the power went out whilst downstairs watching TV - PSU (750w) was fried, my fault for leaving it running even though I'd read the warnings/reviews........ Which led to a new PSU today - everything seems to work except the HDD, so can't get Windows to run and my Daughter's had to do her homework again...... So instead of a cheap 4k monitor, I've ended up with an expensive broken PC and the wrath of the family!
7rooper Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Sorry to hear that. I hope it hadn't broke the bank seriously. My rig specs: Intel Core i7 4770 @3.4Ghz // Corsair 16GB DDR3 // MoBo Asus Z87K // HDD 1TB 7200RPM // eVGA Nvidia GTX 760GT 2GB DDR5 // LG 3D 47" 1920x1080 // Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS // Saitek Combat Pro Pedals // Thrustmaster MFD Cougar pack // PS3 Eye + FTNOIR
Demon_ Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 Only an ups can prevent this. Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche.
cichlidfan Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 Only an ups can prevent this. Which is why it has been years since one of my machines has been connected without one. A decent one costs less than many of my components. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
skouras Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 i bought a brand new 850watt seasonic psu and after 30 minutes dies with a big BOOM...in fact i though that someone throw a grenade in my house... anyway after 4 days they replace it with a new one and everything works great hopefully [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]W10(64bit)Asus Rog Strix Z370-F - i7 8700K - Dark Rock Pro 4 - 16 giga ram Corsair vengeance 3000 - MSI RTX 2070 Super - Asus Rog Phobeus soundcard - Z906 Surround speaker - Track ir5 - HOTAS Warthog
Grundar Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 While it may not apply to your case, in my experience, don't skimp on a good PSU. A good one will take itself out before everything else and an average or cheap one will take itself out and your components making that cheap PSU a now very expensive, experience. In my time I have seen people build a lot of high end PC's and then skimp on a PSU - they just look at the wattage it outputs as opposed to the overall quality of delivery and safety of components. An UPS is also great to have if you have critical data on your PC.
Kuky Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 One thing that can make you psu or other component fry is if you use cables from one psu. Happened to me once when I used cable for hdd from another psu... which ended up in hdd blowing up in smoke. The pins are not always the same even if connector fits (talking about psu with detachable cables) PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
Sierra99 Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 One thing that can make you psu or other component fry is if you use cables from one psu. Happened to me once when I used cable for hdd from another psu... which ended up in hdd blowing up in smoke. The pins are not always the same even if connector fits (talking about psu with detachable cables) I thought those had to conform to a standard the same as the ATX power connectors? (Not arguing...concerned and interested) Sierra [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970.
Kuky Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 That's what I thought also... but after that case of my HDD blowing up, I stick with original cables that come with the PSU only :) PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
BitMaster Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 DAMN ! I have seen plenty of those smoked PSU's in the years, usually 50/50 if it is ONLY the PSU or other stuff as well. If one drive got fried, be warned, the current went through the 12V rails ( most likely ) and you would be lucky if nothing else got damaged ( maybe not to the point where it immedeatly fails, but when loaded and warmed up maybe ). A UPS with a sinus curve voltage, not rectangular , will protect your devices and prevent electric noise. That's what I would watch for when buying a UPS. APC is a good brand and Smart-UPS 1000 the thing you might be looking for if you run a 750W PSU. YOu can get them used on ebay ( I sometimes sell some LoL ) for as low as 20 bucks, buy a new battery pack, about 200€, and be safer. I may hook up a 19" APC SmartUps 1000RS ( rack ) to my tower as I feel unsafe evcer since I am w/o one, just the looks of a upside RS drives me crazy, but better that than your scenario ! Insurance ??? Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
SharpeXB Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 Would a surge protector provide the same protection as a UPS (battery backup)? Other than that you could lose data in a power failure, but any surge or spike in the power is still protected against. i9-14900KS | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | ASUS TUF GeForce RTX 4090 OC | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5
probad Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 One thing that can make you psu or other component fry is if you use cables from one psu. Happened to me once when I used cable for hdd from another psu... which ended up in hdd blowing up in smoke. The pins are not always the same even if connector fits (talking about psu with detachable cables) i can definitely confirm this, i kept hdd cables from a corsair 650w psu when i swapped in an evga 750w and shorted out a wd blue immediately on boot
Demon_ Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 Would a surge protector provide the same protection as a UPS (battery backup)? Other than that you could lose data in a power failure, but any surge or spike in the power is still protected against. No. A surge protector is only good for one time. The components absorb the energy (one time) and become useless. You have a led (red) indicator who tells you that. Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche.
tommytank Posted February 26, 2016 Author Posted February 26, 2016 i can definitely confirm this, i kept hdd cables from a corsair 650w psu when i swapped in an evga 750w and shorted out a wd blue immediately on boot I think that may have been what killed the HDD; The old PSU cables looked better than the new ones, and saved rerouting them all. Fortunately the motherboard and CPU supplies were hard-wired to the old PSU so I had to swap them over, otherwise the whole PC might have been toast. Got just about everything running again now, but it's a fresh install of Windows and the DVD drive still isn't working, but that didn't lose me any data!
Recommended Posts