ivo Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) hi to all Edited November 19, 2016 by ivo cpu:I7-6700k Z170 16GB Ram DDR4 Gtx 1080 8Gb DDR5 11GBs SSD 500 Gb 2 HDD 1Tb Evga supernova G2 850w Case Bequiet series 800 Silent base Win 10 pro 64 bit My wishlist: F-35/B-17G/F4U Corsair/Yak-3/P-40B Tomahawk
ivo Posted March 23, 2016 Author Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) hi to all Edited November 19, 2016 by ivo cpu:I7-6700k Z170 16GB Ram DDR4 Gtx 1080 8Gb DDR5 11GBs SSD 500 Gb 2 HDD 1Tb Evga supernova G2 850w Case Bequiet series 800 Silent base Win 10 pro 64 bit My wishlist: F-35/B-17G/F4U Corsair/Yak-3/P-40B Tomahawk
ivo Posted March 23, 2016 Author Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) Hi to all Edited November 19, 2016 by ivo cpu:I7-6700k Z170 16GB Ram DDR4 Gtx 1080 8Gb DDR5 11GBs SSD 500 Gb 2 HDD 1Tb Evga supernova G2 850w Case Bequiet series 800 Silent base Win 10 pro 64 bit My wishlist: F-35/B-17G/F4U Corsair/Yak-3/P-40B Tomahawk
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 I'm sure you have more succes if you Emai Thrustmaster on this. Happy Flying! :pilotfly:
cichlidfan Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 Yes, that is a defect. I suggest contacting TM but I seriously doubt they will do much of anything for you since it is such a minor cosmetic flaw. Your other option is to return it to the vendor that you bought it from. However, I suspect that nearly every Warthog has minor flaws like that. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 can someone enlighten me? I don't see the defect? Happy Flying! :pilotfly:
FeistyLemur Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 I wouldn't sweat that. The warthog is a stick you'll eventually take apart half a dozen times. Regrease, repair, modify to get the most out of it. Think of it as character. It's a tinkerers stick. I call it the grease hog.
Rabso Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 damn is this considered as defect?! I noticed it from day one on my stick but thought it's normal :) i7-6700K | MSI Z170A Gaming M7 | Dominator 32GB 3000MHz | MSI GTX 1070 GAMING Z | 2TB SSD & 1TB HDD | Acer H277HU 27" WQHD | Audeze Mobius | TM Warthog | MFG Crosswind | TrackIR 5 | Windows 10 Pro
ivo Posted March 24, 2016 Author Posted March 24, 2016 Ok thank but rABSO you have the same defect ? please show a photo bye cpu:I7-6700k Z170 16GB Ram DDR4 Gtx 1080 8Gb DDR5 11GBs SSD 500 Gb 2 HDD 1Tb Evga supernova G2 850w Case Bequiet series 800 Silent base Win 10 pro 64 bit My wishlist: F-35/B-17G/F4U Corsair/Yak-3/P-40B Tomahawk
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 So, what exactly is the defect? Happy Flying! :pilotfly:
gospadin Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 So, what exactly is the defect? Scratches / divots on the left side. Honestly, it goes well with some of the worn A-10 cockpit mods. =P My liveries, mods, and missions for DCS:World M-2000C English Cockpit | Extra Beacons Mod | Nav Kneeboard | Community A-4E
ivo Posted March 25, 2016 Author Posted March 25, 2016 you are right but probably your joy don't have the same difect cpu:I7-6700k Z170 16GB Ram DDR4 Gtx 1080 8Gb DDR5 11GBs SSD 500 Gb 2 HDD 1Tb Evga supernova G2 850w Case Bequiet series 800 Silent base Win 10 pro 64 bit My wishlist: F-35/B-17G/F4U Corsair/Yak-3/P-40B Tomahawk
Rabso Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Ok thank but rABSO you have the same defect ? please show a photo bye Sure, here it is (left side of red button): Edited March 26, 2016 by Rabso i7-6700K | MSI Z170A Gaming M7 | Dominator 32GB 3000MHz | MSI GTX 1070 GAMING Z | 2TB SSD & 1TB HDD | Acer H277HU 27" WQHD | Audeze Mobius | TM Warthog | MFG Crosswind | TrackIR 5 | Windows 10 Pro
ivo Posted March 26, 2016 Author Posted March 26, 2016 I'm ok now....thank. still not 'acceptable these defects on the 400 euro valuables. Would you buy an iphone with such defects to the body? cpu:I7-6700k Z170 16GB Ram DDR4 Gtx 1080 8Gb DDR5 11GBs SSD 500 Gb 2 HDD 1Tb Evga supernova G2 850w Case Bequiet series 800 Silent base Win 10 pro 64 bit My wishlist: F-35/B-17G/F4U Corsair/Yak-3/P-40B Tomahawk
Rabso Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 I'm ok now....thank. still not 'acceptable these defects on the 400 euro valuables. Would you buy an iphone with such defects to the body? nope I hate iPhone :D to honest, I am ok with it as this stick is best on market and you will not find such. i7-6700K | MSI Z170A Gaming M7 | Dominator 32GB 3000MHz | MSI GTX 1070 GAMING Z | 2TB SSD & 1TB HDD | Acer H277HU 27" WQHD | Audeze Mobius | TM Warthog | MFG Crosswind | TrackIR 5 | Windows 10 Pro
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 400? With a bit of googling, you can get a Warthog for 300 euros! Happy Flying! :pilotfly:
guitarxe Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 Is that really a defect? From the photos it just looks like where two halves of the mold come together.
hansangb Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 I'm ok now....thank. still not 'acceptable these defects on the 400 euro valuables. Would you buy an iphone with such defects to the body? People bought them with faulty radios, leaking light, so that may not be the best example. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
Socket7 Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 When I had to RMA my TM because of a bad coolie, they sent me back a unit with a bad throttle axis. I had to RMA the RMA. Do you REALLY want to pay for shipping all that stuff over something that doesn't screw up functionality whatsoever? Practice makes perfect.
Feuerfalke Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 OK, prepare yourself for much worse than that. My Warthog stick is many years old now and the paint has worn off all over it. It's starting to look like a beat up relic from a real cockpit. I love it, looks super realistic. Real aircraft cockpits of fighters and airliners are much used and generally look pretty rough. Pilots don't pay 300 $ for their stick. And they use it in a much different manner. IMHO if paint wears off from simple usage, that's not a sign of quality nor realism. MSI X670E Gaming Plus | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 64 GB DDR4 | AMD RX 6900 XT | LG 55" @ 4K | Cougar 1000 W | CreativeX G6 | TIR5 | CH HOTAS (with BU0836X-12 Bit) + Crosswind Pedals | Win11 64 HP | StreamDeck XL | 3x TM MFD
Revvin Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 I wouldn't be returning a stick for that minor cosmetic 'defect'
rocketsmith Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 Mine has a similar defect in the same location, but more pronounced. It also looks like someone at TM was a little too aggressive sanding some of it off. Most of the time it looks like some dirt was in the seam when it was painted, and I don't notice it anyway, especially when using it. Returning it is not an option for me, since I got it second-hand non-working and repaired it, so it is not covered by any warranty. I probably wouldn't return it if it was covered, considering how I plan to modify/upgrade/abuse it and violate any warranty.
ivo Posted March 28, 2016 Author Posted March 28, 2016 Thank you all for the answers excuse my English does not allow complex speeches. What I say, and 'this is true that in reality' shows normal wear and this' off duscusdione. But 'a new factory object of this value must be free from defects of this type even if only aesthetic. Any other new item with similar dufetti would be rejected by the customer, and this' out of the question and as' clear little accuracy in 'assembling devices by thrustmaster regarding this series. cpu:I7-6700k Z170 16GB Ram DDR4 Gtx 1080 8Gb DDR5 11GBs SSD 500 Gb 2 HDD 1Tb Evga supernova G2 850w Case Bequiet series 800 Silent base Win 10 pro 64 bit My wishlist: F-35/B-17G/F4U Corsair/Yak-3/P-40B Tomahawk
hansangb Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 But IVO has a point. If I bought a laptop, and there was a scratch on the palm rest - totally cosmetic - and the sales person said "meh...it's going to get scratched sooner or later..." I'd have a fit. Not apples and oranges since there isn't a salesman involved, and I'd be pissed at the lack of salesmanship more so than the scratch. But I get how he feels. IVO, it comes down to this. Do you want to go through the RMA process based on the slight cosmetic defect? Especially if you don't know if the next one will have the same defect? So it's up to you, really. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
ivo Posted March 28, 2016 Author Posted March 28, 2016 Ok are in agreement with all of your thoughts probably I can not express myself. This is not to love or not to 'hotas, I had several months to gather enough money to buy it, so I wanted it for a long time. And 'the basic principle that it is not' correct, objects of this type may not present so 'marked defects. In the past I have bought dozens of devices without ever encounter so 'obvious defects. Then of course it depends on the sensitivity 'staff. However, if as you say you all these cosmetic defects are normal the same Thrustmaster should alert the buyer that given the particular metal processing this could be bad finish. I have seen videos on youtube and none had this defect. I hope I have expressed my thoughts by saying that this and 'was one of my most' beautiful purchases despite the bad finishing. (Thrustmaster improved the quality control department '), hello and a hug of heart cpu:I7-6700k Z170 16GB Ram DDR4 Gtx 1080 8Gb DDR5 11GBs SSD 500 Gb 2 HDD 1Tb Evga supernova G2 850w Case Bequiet series 800 Silent base Win 10 pro 64 bit My wishlist: F-35/B-17G/F4U Corsair/Yak-3/P-40B Tomahawk
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