Can only see training missions for the SU27?

[Jamesp1]

I looked for training missions for the F-15C yesterday but was surprised only see them for the SU27.

 

I have the full FC3 package. Are there training missions for any of the other planes?, or possibly the controls and radar etc all work the same?

[probad]

f-15 tutorials highlighted

 

fc3 aircraft have unified control schemes but some stuff like radar controls differs a bit in operational concept.

Edited March 30, 2016 by probad

[Jamesp1]

Thanks - I don't have all those training missions; just a much shorter list for the SU27 only.

 

I'll have a look in the surrounding folders to see if they are there.

[Jamesp1]

OK, I checked and there are only the SU27 training missions. I can't see any others for Flaming Cliffs in any of the surrounding folders, nor any way to download more.

 

Does anyone know what I have wrong or where I can find them?

training fc3.bmp

[Hyperion35]

I see the same thing that James does. I'd just assumed that the only training missions available were for the Su-27. Which is why I'd initially wound up flying the Su-27. I wouldn't mind having some training missions for the F-15 included, especially with the new F-15 campaign for NTTR, I'd probably make fewer mistakes if I'd had some basic training missions (especially for the navigation, which is so $%* confusing when switching from the Su-27).

[RazorTM]

I can only see SU-27 training missions, too. I swore that there were more training missions a long time ago, but when I went try them out a couple of weeks ago, I didn't see any and just thought that my mind was playing tricks on me.

[Ironhand]

OK, I checked and there are only the SU27 training missions. I can't see any others for Flaming Cliffs in any of the surrounding folders, nor any way to download more.

 

Does anyone know what I have wrong or where I can find them?

At one point there was a folder mislabeled "aircrafts" instead of "aircraft". This had the effect of placing mission files in the wrong place because you ended up with two different directories for the same thing. You might want to use Windows Explorer and check your file structure under Mods in your DCS installation. Drill down and see what you find.

[Deaths]

So I can add a little to this, I bought the f15 standalone on steam about 3 weeks ago just to see if i liked the game and when I did those f15 training missions were there for me.

 

I decided I really like this game and downloaded the ED version and flaming cliffs and the Huey. Now when I look the training is gone, and when I open the steam version, its gone there too.

 

So somewhere between me downloading the Ed standalone 1.5 beta version and transferring the f15 over, or buying flaming cliffs 3, I lost those missions. I dug around in the folders and still don't see it. Would really like them back as I didnt do very many of them and now that I have a basic understanding of the game that training could pay off.

 

Any help getting them back would be appreciated, ty in advance.

 

One edit looking at the screenshot of the training , i only have the su27, nothing for the a10 or the f15.

Edited April 2, 2016 by Deaths

[sobe]

Same as Deaths

[esb77]

I don't have FC3, just the stand alone modules for the Su-25, F-15, and Su-27.

 

The old training missions, or at least some of them are definitely MIA.

 

Easy to confirm using a file search for the ".miz" extension.

 

They may reappear or be replaced at some point. The Su-25T training missions vanished briefly before their most recent revision.

Edited April 3, 2016 by esb77

[Baz000]

When are we going to get actual training missions for the FC3 aircraft like the SU-27 got? Its long over due

[Proper Charlie]

The Mods\aircraft\Flaming Cliffs\Missions\EN\Training folder has .ogv videos for the training, but only the Su-27 still has the actual training missions.

[Hyperion35]

Yeah, I've searched other folders for training missions and still coming up blank. However, I still have my old pre-1.5 installation (I've been meaning to uninstall it to free up some space, I'd installed the 1.5 Beta when it was released and I've just been using that version for 1.5). In the pre-1.5 version, inside the Missions folder, there is a folder marked FC2, the path is:

 

C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\Mods\aircraft\Flaming Cliffs\Missions\EN\FC2

 

Within this folder, I see some missions that are at least training-ish, with filenames like "F-15C Ramp Start and Navigation" and "F-15C Sensor Practice" and "F-15C Air-to-Air Weapons Practice", and similar files for the other aircraft (including the Su-25T). However, I do not see any of the files that match the names in the screenshot of the second post.

 

That being said, I do remember some time ago that there were videos that you had to download from within the DCS: World application. The actual Su-27 training missions, however, were far more useful than those videos were. Having actual training missions works better than videos, because you learn how to do things and why they're done a certain way, and it lets you understand how the various controls work (and it's a good way to work out how you want to map your HOTAS controls).

 

I know that Maple Flag has an F-15C training campaign (dunno if it's going to become an official DCS product the way that their similar A-10C campaign did), but a basic set of training missions really should come with the product, and my understanding is that the Maple Flag campaign is more in-depth than basic training missions would be.

 

The FC3 aircraft are themselves somewhat "introductory" aircraft for DCS: World, and they're often the sort of aircraft that would be recommended for new/inexperienced pilots or for those who are new to DCS: World. These are the people who are most in need of training missions, and so it would really be a good idea to ensure that all of the FC3 aircraft have training missions included in the package.

[uniform]

I remember that FC3 Did have training videos at least for all aircraft within the package. This was before the 1.5 Update?

[DarkFire]

I remember that FC3 Did have training videos at least for all aircraft within the package. This was before the 1.5 Update?

 

Yes, that was back in the days of 1.2.26. By the time that we got the 1.5 upgrade those training videos were severely outdated. I guess the eventual plan is to have interactive training missions for the FC3 aircraft, as the Su-27 now does.