lotherk Posted April 24, 2016 Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) Everything stated here seems to not work anymore. Thanks ED! While playing around with CTLD's jtac autolase function, I discovered that using laser code 1113 will show a diamond in the HUD of the Su-25T. Further testing showed, that - if you manual override (left alt + w) - you actually can use the laser guidance to fire the Su-25T's laser missiles without having to lase them yourself. You just have to wait for the diamond to become a circle, press alt + w, fire and forget. Not only that, it also gives you a higher fire range for ALL of the missiles, so Kh-29L, the 25ML and the S-25L have the SAME firing range (which obviously seems to be a bug). I have tested this successfully in the mission editor (SP), hosting a multiplayer myself and joining a MP game. It did not work with the Su-25, though. The Su-25 activates its own laser after you've fired the missile and even if you turn of your laser directly after the shot, the missiles would just explode somewhere in air. It also does work when CA buddy is lasing. A-10C is confirmed working (thanks Isegrim) See the attached mission. Just start the mission, activate ground mode (7) select one of the missiles, press alt+w for manual override and wait for the rectangle to turn into a circle - FIRE! The mission uses mist and CTLD for CTLD's jtac autolase feature. I did not test it with vanilla DCS as I don't know how to make a unit lase a target on a specific code. Does anyone have more experience in this?su25t_laser_1113_test.miz Edited May 31, 2016 by lotherk 4
flashben Posted April 24, 2016 Posted April 24, 2016 So the Su25T has something comparable to the A10A's TISL? Have you tried this in the A10A too? Would be sweet if the Pennypod/TISL worked
Toxic Posted April 25, 2016 Posted April 25, 2016 Has anyone else tested this using it in conjunction with an A-10C? #CHOPPERLIVESMATTER http://www.aircombatgroup.co.uk/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
lotherk Posted April 25, 2016 Author Posted April 25, 2016 Has anyone else tested this using it in conjunction with an A-10C? We did not yet, but I assume everything that can lase on code 1113 will work (at least for the Su-25T). You can simply test the A-10A by replacing/adding an A-10A to the test mission provided in the first post. I might do somewhen this week. Cheers
Isegrim Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) Its Working with the A-10C and the SU-25Ts KH-29L and KH-25ML aswell. CTLD´s Jtac Mod is not needed. It is not working with KH-25ML equipped KA-50s. Edited April 26, 2016 by Isegrim "Blyat Naaaaa" - Izlom
Kelevra9987 Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Wow. JTACs for Froggies? Sounds Interesting and will open a whole new possibility for the T-Frog. Nice find! Modules: Well... all of 'em ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Motherboard: ASUS Maximus VIII Hero | CPU: i7-6700K @ 4.6GHz | RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengance LPX DDR4 | GPU: GTX TITAN X (Maxwell) | SSD1: 256GB NVMe SSD System | SSD2: 250GB Games | HDD 4TB WD Red
lotherk Posted April 26, 2016 Author Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) Its Working with the A-10C and the SU-25Ts KH-29L and KH-25ML aswell. CTLD´s Jtac Mod is not needed. It is not working with KH-25ML equipped KA-50s. Maybe because the KA is using a different laser code? I knew it would work in vanilla, without CTLD and I'm not sure if the DCS Mods forum is the right place for this. We need to find out why this is working, how this is working and how we get the Su-25 for example to work, too. (Ka-50 would be awesome, too). Does anyone know how we can find the piece of code that is responsible for why 1113 is working? I've done a quick grep on all lua files to find anything related to 1113, but couldn't find much so far. Edited April 26, 2016 by lotherk
Svend_Dellepude Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Nice find! You probably wont find much info since most data in FC3 is compiled. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD.
Darkwolf Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Now we need to test the other 9999 codes to check for Ka-50 channel :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] PC simulator news site. Also....Join the largest DCS community on Facebook :pilotfly:
Foxbeard Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 Works with GBU-10 on the A-10a too. Great work! Does anybody know how to lase targets in the mission editor? __________________ Windows 7 Ult 64 Bit | Intel Core i5-3570 | 16GB DDR3-2133 | GTX 770
LevelPulse Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 Brilliant find! I must try this out :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Director | Team Coordinator ME-163B Project The DCS Modding Hub Discord PC Specs: Intel I7 8700k 4.7Ghz Gigabyte Aorus Ultra Gaming Z370 Motherboard 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3000MHz Ram 500GB Samsung Evo 850 SSD
sheref reda Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=141297
Isegrim Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=141297 ? This is a link to CTLDs Jtac mod. But the mod has nothing to do with the abilty of Painting Targets for the SU-25T. This is featured in DCS Vanilla. Edited April 28, 2016 by Isegrim "Blyat Naaaaa" - Izlom
Foxbeard Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 Has anybody tried it with dcs 2.0? __________________ Windows 7 Ult 64 Bit | Intel Core i5-3570 | 16GB DDR3-2133 | GTX 770
sheref reda Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 try it with code 1113 i did not try it yet but i think it will work with code 1113
xaoslaad Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 Does it to work with the Vihkr? Are you trying to get it to work with the Vihkr on the Ka-50? With either the Su-25T or Ka-50 buddy lasing the Vihkr would be a bug as it's beam riding and looks back at the launch platform rather than the target. I don't think all of the Kh-25ML's, Kh-29L's or S-25L's are beam riding as at least some look to have sensors so it seems at least conceivable that it would be possible. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk
sheref reda Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 Does it to work with the Vihkr? Are you trying to get it to work with the Vihkr on the Ka-50? With either the Su-25T or Ka-50 buddy lasing the Vihkr would be a bug as it's beam riding and looks back at the launch platform rather than the target. I don't think all of the Kh-25ML's, Kh-29L's or S-25L's are beam riding as at least some look to have sensors so it seems at least conceivable that it would be possible. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk i edit the code in this file to 1113 And if it did not work with you open it with mission editor and type its code to 1113 just it and i hope u excuse me for my english badforums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=139639&stc=1&d=1461854771DCS-JTACAutoLaze-master____for su-25t with laser code 1113.zip
Pikey Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 Rofl, what a find. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING *
Fer109 Posted May 3, 2016 Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) Lotherk, thank you very much for your information. I was looking that for a long time... http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=159757 I tested both JTAC and A-10C doing succesfully buddy lasing to Su-25T and A-10A. Will be nice to put this "magical" code 1113 in manuals... Edited May 4, 2016 by Fer109
FraserNZL Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 ED your secret is out! Best you put LGBs on that A-10
lotherk Posted May 4, 2016 Author Posted May 4, 2016 Pretty sure they'll fix it the ED way: removing it from the game instead of enhancing.
Einherjer Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 Oh please, everybody shut up and delete this thread... And no word to ed! ;) I hope this bug is on the last place on the bug fix list... For ever on the last place...
WinterH Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 I'm sure if we look harder we may find another code that work for Su-25A too :music_whistling: Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script
pepin1234 Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 Remember the Su-25A have a laser range of 7 km. Try in this distance and tell us. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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