Farlander Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 Im not too happy about the power thing.. Im sure its no problem, aftermarkets will have 8pin anyways (nothing says 6-pin cant thake most of the load from the pcie atm even!) Anyone have experiences with crossfire in dcs? Seriously considering 2x RX480 over gtx 1070..
SkateZilla Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 DCS Multi-GPU Support is Still early WIP, Last I heard from other users, Specifically AMD, is that it was not working. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
OldE24 Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) DCS Multi-GPU Support is Still early WIP, Last I heard from other users, Specifically AMD, is that it was not working. skate i have SS's of crossfire working on my 6850's before i switched. and it nearly doubble my FPS but there was some stuttering in areas but i belive it was due to Vram issues as it would show 3GB used out of 2. you just have to make sure you are in full screen alt+Ent. http://imgur.com/a/YW3o4 Edited July 2, 2016 by OldE24 8700k@4.7 32GB ram, 1080TI hybrid SC2
SkateZilla Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 skate i have SS's of crossfire working on my 6850's before i switched. and it nearly doubble my FPS but there was some stuttering in areas but i belive it was due to Vram issues as it would show 3GB used out of 2. you just have to make sure you are in full screen alt+Ent. http://imgur.com/a/YW3o4 Im aware, I have been working/testing XFire for a while now, I just removed my 2 GPUs to be able to work w/ VR Stuff. I have a Thread somewhere with my settings and findings etc. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Bobby-M. Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 Ok Ladys and Gents I did some overclocking with my RX 480 reference Design Card... its not that good to overclock but watch the video [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjIlbyFZvlM[/ame]
OldE24 Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) Ok Ladys and Gents I did some overclocking with my RX 480 reference Design Card... its not that good to overclock but watch the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjIlbyFZvlM it's known right now the reference design doesnt overclock well and is actually useing more power then it should some have been able to overclock while reducing core voltage also, just best to wait untill mid July and aftermarket PCB/coolers with 8 pin power. ps it's clear skate likes the AMD but i also, just disappointed there wasn't a 490 BIG pascal, and will be Vega end 2016/early 1017, owning a 390 i dont see a reason to upgrade my system from a 2600k and video card as if i wanted to go Nvidia you have to pay way to much and fight to get one. Edited July 2, 2016 by OldE24 8700k@4.7 32GB ram, 1080TI hybrid SC2
SkateZilla Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 woulda helped if you had the fan on something higher than 28%.. your starting temp was 75° before it even rendered a single frame. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Drag0nWIng Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 power.... if i cost hundreds of dollars to buy a graphic card, why i care about that few cents power fee? i won't play the computer game at 100% loaded for 7*24 hours all the day, the power is a big problem?
Hadwell Posted July 2, 2016 Author Posted July 2, 2016 power.... if i cost hundreds of dollars to buy a graphic card, why i care about that few cents power fee? i won't play the computer game at 100% loaded for 7*24 hours all the day, the power is a big problem? some motherboards won't allow the card to go under full load because they just shut off if too much power is being taken from the wrong place... you'd be in the middle of your GTAV session and your computer just shuts off... but it'd be low-end motherboards with cheap power management... My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
OldE24 Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 i own a mother board "asrock extreme 4 gen 3" that actualy has a extra molex connector on the MB to supply extra power to the PCI-E for dual card setups, never had it pluged in and still ran 2x 6950's with out a problem. 8700k@4.7 32GB ram, 1080TI hybrid SC2
kam Posted July 2, 2016 Posted July 2, 2016 Sapphire Radeon RX 480 Nitro OC 8GB for preorder from OcUK now, £250. Giggity giggity :joystick: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-nitro-oc-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-37b-sp.html Intel 5820k | Asus X-99A | Crucial 16GB | Powercolor Devil RX580 8GB | Win 10 x64 | Oculus Rift | https://gallery.ksotov.co.uk Patiently waiting for: DCS: Panavia Tornado, DCS: SA-2 Guideline, DCS: SA-3 Goa, DCS: S-300 Grumble
OldE24 Posted July 3, 2016 Posted July 3, 2016 basically confirms someone was smoking some good stuff when they designed the reference PCB. 8700k@4.7 32GB ram, 1080TI hybrid SC2
Boberro Posted July 3, 2016 Posted July 3, 2016 power.... if i cost hundreds of dollars to buy a graphic card, why i care about that few cents power fee? i won't play the computer game at 100% loaded for 7*24 hours all the day, the power is a big problem? In theory you are right, who cares about 20W more however it is risky for motherboard (thus there is standard compliance). Also more power x hundred of thousands of users = bigger power draw from powerplants. Today everything has to be more-less power efficient which is in the most cases really beneficial. Except cars which have more efficient engines but they sustain 70 000 km, after that either to scrap or general repair. Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
SkateZilla Posted July 3, 2016 Posted July 3, 2016 20W More Sustain vs Spikes are two different things. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
SkateZilla Posted July 3, 2016 Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) basically confirms someone was smoking some good stuff when they designed the reference PCB. He has some good points..... But I'll leave it at that. The Design is New, I dont expect him to know the Engineer's reasons for the pcb layout. He's claiming the PCIe and PCIe 6+ Pin Layouts are out of spec, but the PCI SIG says it's not. AMD already found the problem and it will be fixed in a driver update. Edited July 3, 2016 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
72westy Posted July 3, 2016 Posted July 3, 2016 GTX970/980s are price slashed to sell, they wont be available for the long term, let alone the life of the RX-480 to compete. RX-480 is just now available, And it's already Competing, albiet some huge power bugs, But those will be fixed via Driver or Firmware updates. GTX980/970 did not have superb DX11 Performance in it's debut either, nVidia had to do significant driver work to get them there. Comparing Performance and Rating a GPU Architecture that's had 2+ Years of Developmental Improvements (Maxwell Gen1 -> Maxwell Gen 2), to a Architecture that's just released is silly. Give the RX-480 Time to Fix some issues and address the problems, and it will likely increase in performance. The GTX1060 will be paper launched in a week, however, seeing as they moved the schedule up nearly 2 months, I doubt you see it in qtys that allow it to be anything but sold out till the end if the year, nVidia's FAB Allotments favor the large GP Chips (1080/1070 as well as the GP100 Pro and GP102Ti Chips) Expecting a RX480 to Compete w/ a 1070/1080 which is a significantly larger GPU Architecture is like expecting a 4Cyl Camaro to compete w/ a 8 Cyl Mustang in a wide open drag race. Well I can build a 4 cylinder ACVW engine that will smoke a V-8. So in essence it can be done. System 1: Windows 10 Pro 22H2 Build 19045.5198 - Core i7 3770K/Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3 (BIOS F-10)/32GB G-Skill Trident X DDR3 CL7-8-8-24/Asus RTX 2070 OC 8GB - drivers 551.61/LG Blue Ray DL Burner/1TB Crucial MX 500 SSD/(x2)1TBMushkinRAWSSDs/2TB PNY CS900 SSD/Corsair RM750w PSU/Rosewill Mid Challenger Tower/34" LG LED Ultrawide 2560x1080p/Saitek X56 HOTAS/TrackIR 5 Pro/Thermaltake Tt esports Commander Gear Combo/Oculus Quest 2/TM 2xMFD Cougar/InateckPCIeUSB3.2KU5211-R System 2: Windows 11 Home 24H2 26100.4202 - MSI Codex Series R2 B14NUC7-095US - i7 14700F/MSI Pro B760 VC Wifi II/32GB DDR5 5600mhz RAM/RTX 4060 8GB/2TB MSI M482/4TB CT4000P3PSSD8 SSD/4TB SPCC SSD/Kingspec 4TB SSD/650w Gold PSU
Hadwell Posted July 3, 2016 Author Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) Well I can build a 4 cylinder ACVW engine that will smoke a V-8. So in essence it can be done. And an 8 cyl version of that 4 cyl engine? Transistors are not engine cylinders... Comparing aardvarks to blaupunkts... Edited July 3, 2016 by Hadwell My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Aginor Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 I read today that some of the benchmark guys reportedly used a wrong driver, and there was already an improved one. Still the power issue, but the cards are a bit faster. Still not near the 1070 (yet?) though. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
SkateZilla Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) A big Blow for the Gree Team and GTX1060. GTX1060 will not support SLi at ALL on the 3GB Version, Reference Coolers are Integrated onto the PCB, the 6 PIN PCIe Power Connector is part of the Cooler Shroud and is Soldered to the PCB Edited July 4, 2016 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Abburo Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 Why would you buy such a low end card and put in SLI ? Past experiences shows us all that this is not a practical choice because of SLI known issues and the best choice will be always to take a single more powerfull GPU (I've been there also). Saying that, the only real value added for SLI will be with top GPU's only. It applies to crossfire too. Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom
SkateZilla Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) Why would you buy such a low end card and put in SLI ? Past experiences shows us all that this is not a practical choice because of SLI known issues and the best choice will be always to take a single more powerfull GPU (I've been there also). Saying that, the only real value added for SLI will be with top GPU's only. It applies to crossfire too. If 2x RX480s @ $400 = ~>GTX1070 @ $499, and Just below GTX1080 @$699 and a GTX1060 is even 20% faster than a RX480 Then a 3GB GTX1060 @ 249 x2 ( $598 ), would be on par with a $699 GTX1080. Shrug, SLi is pointless, in 2-3 years when everything new is DX12+ or Vulkan, SLi/XFire will not be needed, EMA Works without bridges, alternate frame rendering, or mirroring the memory arrays. In 3+ years, if you want to play DX11 Games in XFire You'll have to do a Legacy build, just like those of use who still run Windows 98/2000 and 3DFx Cards for the Good Old jane's combat sims. Edited July 4, 2016 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
OldE24 Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 If 2x RX480s @ $400 = ~>GTX1070 @ $499, and Just below GTX1080 @$699 and a GTX1060 is even 20% faster than a RX480 Then a 3GB GTX1060 @ 249 x2 ( $598 ), would be on par with a $699 GTX1080. Shrug, SLi is pointless, in 2-3 years when everything new is DX12+ or Vulkan, SLi/XFire will not be needed, EMA Works without bridges, alternate frame rendering, or mirroring the memory arrays. In 3+ years, if you want to play DX11 Games in XFire You'll have to do a Legacy build, just like those of use who still run Windows 98/2000 and 3DFx Cards for the Good Old jane's combat sims. http://videocardz.com/61826/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-rumors-part-2 aparently there is NO SLI for the GTX 1060. 8700k@4.7 32GB ram, 1080TI hybrid SC2
SkateZilla Posted July 4, 2016 Posted July 4, 2016 SLI was Only removed from the Cheaper 3GB Versions. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
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