Want to buy the Hog. What else do I need?

[TaktLwG 73 Steinhoff]

Hello gents,

 

I now want to buy the A-10C. This are my specs:

TrackIR 4

T.Flight Stick X (https://www.amazon.de/Thrustmaster-2960694-T-Flight-Stick-USB/dp/B000U1OOH4/ref=pd_lpo_147_lp_t_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=B8902HGW7J4GZS1MXKCV)

 

I don't own pedals.

 

So is there anything i really need? I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on some joystick...

 

Thanks in advance ;):thumbup:

[Kippy]

Yeah, you're forgetting a keyboard bindings print. :lol:

 

You've got everything you NEED to fly the Pig, but I can promise that a T. Flight Stick X will be an uncomfortable stick to use. Not having HOTAS capability truly limits yourself. Having a HOTAS set will allow you to manipulate systems much much faster than with keyboard commands.

 

Now you've said that you don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on a stick, so I'll assume the TM Warthog is out of the question,

 

If you've got the change to spare, find a used Saitek X-55. They've got everything you'll need to get the job done. Plus it's a twisty stick, so you're not required to buy rudder pedals.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Saitek-Flight-Rhino-Throttle-System/dp/B00HHAIY72

[iVVChewy9141VVi]

Please do not get the Saitek X-55 there have been tons and I mean tons of quality control complaints also same with the X-56. Honestly you would be better off getting the Saitek X52 Pro which is only $150 USD.

 

Your setup looks great would make sure you have keyboard printout like stated above.

 

If you do have the Cash down the road take a look into the CH Combatstick, Pro Throttle and Pro Pedals. Even though they might not look amazing like the Warthog or the Saitek Controls I can tell you there quality is superb some people have had there CH Products for 10+ years working

[cthulhu68]

I used a Logitech attack3 for almost a year before deciding to upgrade to CH Products stick and thrott. Use what you have for now but start saving for CH, Saitek, or the big daddy Warthog. They'll be calling your name soon enough.

[Yurgon]

Agree with Kippy, you should definitely get something labeled "HOTAS", or else flying the A-10C won't be a very rewarding experience IMO. I've never flown it without the TM Warthog, got it specifically for the A-10C, and I can't recommend it enough.

 

The A-10C's HOTAS concept is pretty cool once you begin to understand it. The supplied training missions do a good job of explaining some of the fundamentals. But I think pressing some buttons on the keyboard will never be as immersive as pushing the exact same button that's there in the real jet.

 

Anyway, you sure don't need the Warthog to fly and enjoy the A-10C, but I think the T.Flight Stick will be too limiting, so at the very least prepare to get a decent HOTAS like the X55 or CH products (never owned either, but especially CH have a very solid reputation AFAIK).

 

Rudder pedals aren't really required in the C model. Rudders are mostly used during crosswind landings, for single engine operations or very asymmetrical loadouts and a few fancy maneuvers like last ditch gun run adjustments if your run-in was bad to begin with.

 

The really cool thing about the A-10C is that there's always new stuff to learn. I've flown it since Beta and I'm still learning new stuff. The module is totally awesome, and if you can't afford the Warthog right now, get the A-10C anyway, I can practically guarantee it'll keep you entertained for years to come, and maybe by then the investment in a good HOTAS won't seem quite as steep as it does now. :thumbup:

[Harpoon]

Saitek X52 pro user here, pretty good HOTAS for the price. be sure to watch out, some of them have quality issues

[agentdarnell]

I have the x55 and never had problems with it nor have any of the people i have known that has it. The combat pedals on the other hand are a different matter.

[Xavven]

Bare minimum would be this T.Flight HOTAS: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-Stick-Pc/dp/B001CXYMFS

 

I flew on that for years before getting my TM Warthog. Is the TM Warthog completely necessary to fly? No. Does it improve the experience. Yes. Worth it if you are an A-10C fan. A bit overkill if flight sims are just a passing interest.

[TaktLwG 73 Steinhoff]

Wow thanks a lot for the advices! In total, they're all quite expensive (for me), since i'm in the first week of my apprenticeship :/ i know i should buy something more quality like, but what about this one?

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-Stick-Pc/dp/B001CXYMFS/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1473098197&sr=1-1&keywords=hotas

Maybe if i want to have something special one day i'm going for the CH Combatstick

[Xavven]

Wow thanks a lot for the advices! In total, they're all quite expensive (for me), since i'm in the first week of my apprenticeship :/ i know i should buy something more quality like, but what about this one?

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-Stick-Pc/dp/B001CXYMFS/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1473098197&sr=1-1&keywords=hotas

Maybe if i want to have something special one day i'm going for the CH Combatstick

 

 

Haha. Yes. That one is good enough to start IMHO. It's lacking in many areas, but it's cheap enough that you can decide whether or not you want to invest more money into flight simming. I know several people who were enthused to start but later decided simming is too much work. Others go on to spend $100's, and in my case, DCS actually inspired me to start flight lessons in real life.

[TaktLwG 73 Steinhoff]

Well i deffinetely i won't spend that much money on simming :D before that i'd buy a better pc for other games... Actually I'm a glider pilot myself, got 58 flight, (made my first solo flight two weeks ago) and i was hoping to get into the air force pilot training but i've got bad eyes... :(

[Xavven]

Are they correctable to 20/20 with lenses or laser? I've heard you can still make a pilot slot if so.

[snowsniper]

no need for a hotas for the A10 :

 

just map some modifiers on your keyboards

 

heres are mines:

 

all numeric keys from 1 to 09 are set to modifiers.

 

and I use them with my unique FFB2 china Hat.

 

DMS (1 key modifier + china Hat) TMS (2 key modifier + china Hat ) Pimki switch (8 key modifier + china Hat) etc etc....

 

easy to use once you know what is where ( i used some stickers on my keyboard ) and no need for a hotas with that config.

 

I also use the target arrows for tdc the Enter for lock and backspace to unlock.

[TaktLwG 73 Steinhoff]

Merci snowsniper, maybe that'll help me. I will try it out. @Xavven: that's not even a problem, i would be able to laser them, but i have the red green weakness and when the doctor says that, your out of the game... The hightest license i can make is PPL... :( but flying gliders is also cool :D

[Mad Dog 7.62]

Another good option might be to spend $10 for Voice Attack. You can map most anything to it. You're still gonna need a HOTAS of some kind, but VA makes it possible to do a lot more and save hunting for key combos on the keyboard or mapping things to stick buttons.

[Davewave]

I have the x55 rhino and it's the bomb, pun intended. It's very versatile and technically has more key binds than the TM. Warthog because of the mode switches. If you ever get it let me know as I've made a kick ass x55 profile for it.

Yes you want at least a HOTAS. That's a given. It's nice to have the cougar MFds as its a quick way to access your MFCDS.

I started off with nothing more than a Microsoft joystick and my g910 keyboard and it's night and day with the right controls.

[Davewave]

Another good option might be to spend $10 for Voice Attack. You can map most anything to it. You're still gonna need a HOTAS of some kind, but VA makes it possible to do a lot more and save hunting for key combos on the keyboard or mapping things to stick buttons.

 

I can't say I've had much luck with voice attack. I sat there for hours training my voice three times and it still can't understand me which I know it's not me because SIRI gets me just fine.

[Coops]

What you will need above all the technical "stuff" is patience... take time... read the manual... you toob some toots and have fun...

[29Lives]

Need some advice

 

Hi everyone. I don't have any dcs yet but i'm interested. I'm not very current in high performance PCs. Before I download and get eyeballs deep I'd like to know where I stand when it comes to my machine's capabilities and DCS. In your opinions how would my modest PC fare?

 

My full set up:

 

Windows experience index rating: 5.9

 

Processor: AMD A6-3500 APU with Radeon HD Graphics 2.10 GHz

 

Installed RAM: 8.00GB

 

System type: 64-bit OS

 

194GB Free disk space

 

 

Logitech Extreme 3D pro

Saitek X52 throttle

 

Dynex 32in lcd tv main

Dell 24in monitor secondary

 

Internet provider: Xfinity

test results:

Ping 26ms

Download 124.5Mbps

Upload 12.2Mbps

 

 

I know it's no spring chicken but need some solid advice.

thanks in advance.

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[Yurgon]

In your opinions how would my modest PC fare?

 

The CPU isn't quick, and the graphics adapter sounds pretty bad, although I'm not sure about its exact specifications. The display size doesn't matter, what matters is their resolution. The higher the resolution, the better your PC needs to be.

 

However, just go ahead and download and install DCS World 1.5 - it's completely free, and it already includes 2 flyable aircraft, the Su-25T and the TF-51D.

 

If your system runs okay with these, it's still no guarantee that it'll run as smoothly with some of the more complex modules if you decide to purchase them, but it should give you a very good first estimate. :thumbup:

[29Lives]

Thanks Yurgon,

 

I forgot to include my adapter:

 

GeForce GTX 560 SE

 

Total available graphics memory 4095MB

Dedicated video memory 1024MB

Shared system memory 3071MB

 

Still a go?

[Yurgon]

I wouldn't expect much, and quite possibly DCS might not run at all because it requires 2 GB of video memory (the card only has 1, while the rest is shared with relatively slow system memory), but if you just install it, you can check it out first hand. :thumbup:

[29Lives]

roger that.

 

dwnlding now so fingers crossed.

thanks again

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