Vikhr

[colubridae]

I'm sure someone has asked this before...

 

but why do vikhr rockets spiral in on their tragets?

 

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[S77th-GOYA]

http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?t=5614&highlight=vikhr+spiral+fin

[3Sqn_Fudd]

http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?t=5614&highlight=vikhr+spiral+fin

 

 

Question answered...only to a degree though. It seems this is still a significant waste of a missles energy, and that any advantage would be allayed by the waste of energy.

 

OT: The MBT Arena defense system seem very effective... anyone have research its field effectiveness? I think Tank technology is at least as interesting as aircraft technology. Chobham (Dorchester) armor, Arena, Shtora, Reactive Armor, DU, Electro Reactive Armor, Top Attack Missles... quite interesting

[bogusheadbox]

Maybe the spiral is a design feature of the missile>???

 

Perhaps it is to help avoidance of the missile being shot down whilst in flight ?

[TekaTeka]

Question answered...only to a degree though. It seems this is still a significant waste of a missles energy, and that any advantage would be allayed by the waste of energy.

The design made the missile much smaller and cheaper. So you can carry many.

[nscode]

The spiral is much smaller in RL and thus is the energy waste.. we'll be able to see this in BS :)

[Jay]

On the other hand Vikhrs will be much more limited when engaging high speed flying targets (planes) in the BS than now in the FC....

[GGTharos]

That's correct, though 'much more' is debateable ... you certainly aren't going to want to engage high-speed crossing targets, but head-on or tail-on and more or less co-altitude you're fine.

[bogusheadbox]

That's correct, though 'much more' is debateable ... you certainly aren't going to want to engage high-speed crossing targets, but head-on or tail-on and more or less co-altitude you're fine.

 

Never tried to use one of these against another aircraft.

 

Though thinking about it. I don't get a lot of time to do anything when a fighter has a bead on me.

[Force_Feedback]

and we can finally switch on the poximity fuse on the thing. And in real life they don't spiral in such giant spirals like in FC.

 

And all modern 'lightweight' (not Javelin, or other heavy fire and forget missiles) ATGMs spiral, and they too don't spiral with 30m spirals. Yes their speed is slower, but they too spiral in more or less a straight line from the beginning, and not in a cone-shape when viewed from the side like we have in 1.12a.

ATGMs are one of my favourite subjects, they have something magical to them, something that is like "w0w, I can seriousely damage a very expensive tank with this thing, and live to tell about it too". Plus the guidance methods are very interesting, and require great skill (3 point guidance on 1st gen systems). Let's post some informational sites (not fas) on ATGMs. I don't have any b/c I have a couple of books on atgms.

[LazerPotatoe]

Vikhr:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2nBJ9dRr6M

[192nd_Erdem]

I uploaded that vid to net :) You can find the source thread in this forum :D It even spreaded to wikipedia, gotta love the net.

[Force_Feedback]

I uploaded that vid to net :) You can find the source thread in this forum :D It even spreaded to wikipedia, gotta love the net.

 

Those were the only ones shown to the public, rippd from some documentaries. Nice to see an occasional guidance error (does Vikhr WAFM mean that we also will get the occasional guidance error?), and the quality is fine too, you can read everything. Nice vid.

 

Some nice vids, on missiles

Look at the cool initial guidance stage, with 4 thrusters in the front.

Topol-M