F-5 changes in 1.5.5 (no more high G turns!)

[Pocket Sized]

As some of you might have seen the open beta branch got updated to 1.5.5.

 

There were two major changes, one of which I'm happy about and the other not so much but it was inevitable. I won't be home for a number of hours but I'll make some assumptions from the real F-5 flight manual.

 

1. When the maneuver flaps are extended the aircraft will easily get into an inverted deep stall (think flanker) which can be recovered by retracting flaps and pulling like crazy. It can develop into an unrecoverable inverted flat spin so quick recovery is important. This will be fun to mess around with I think :D

 

2. Wing overstress has been implemented, so no more 20 G pulls at 700 knots. The G limit for a clean F-5 is 7, marked by a red line on the G meter. Assuming the flight model isn't totally overhauled, it will be VERY easy to overstress the wings at high speeds.

 

This is sort of a PSA but also a place to discuss these changes, I imagine the second will be a bit controversial to some :music_whistling:

[ESAc_matador]

I love those G limits.

 

I don't know if it's modeled but would be great a human stress model. so, you can turn one, two or three times at 7-8 G but at the next one, you became knocked out before, and before, and before. The way we usually fly simulators, does not take into account the physical effort. So you better manage your turns, like in real life. WOULD be great.

[bkthunder]

I love those G limits.

 

I don't know if it's modeled but would be great a human stress model. so, you can turn one, two or three times at 7-8 G but at the next one, you became knocked out before, and before, and before. The way we usually fly simulators, does not take into account the physical effort. So you better manage your turns, like in real life. WOULD be great.

 

There's an F-16 sim that had this feature for a number of years. But as I have understood, some "basic" features that we take for granted in another sim are not easy to implement in DCS.

But it would be a very good thing to have.

[probad]

i love everything that punishes the ignorant and unprepared.

[Pocket Sized]

i love everything that punishes the ignorant and unprepared.

 

+1

 

They mentioned something about engine behavior in the spin, hoping they finally implemented compressor stalls. The engines are very temperamental in real life and will easily flame out, making spin recovery totally impossible sometimes...

[Nate--IRL--]

I love those G limits.

 

I don't know if it's modeled but would be great a human stress model. so, you can turn one, two or three times at 7-8 G but at the next one, you became knocked out before, and before, and before. The way we usually fly simulators, does not take into account the physical effort. So you better manage your turns, like in real life. WOULD be great.

 

Hmmm Pilot G fatigue was definitely modelled at one point - is it no longer there?

 

Nate

[VTJS17_Fire]

Hmmm Pilot G fatigue was definitely modelled at one point - is it no longer there?

 

Nate

I also remember. If you do a 4g turn at first, you can pull more g's in the next turns. This is, how I knew it in DCS.

[Need-To-Know]

I also remember. If you do a 4g turn at first, you can pull more g's in the next turns. This is, how I knew it in DCS.

 

Called "G Warm" in the real fighter world. Standard practice for pilots to do a G Warm before bfm. One 4 g turn then a 6 g to get the blood flowing.