Grudge Match Series- Round 3: Mig 21 Vs F-5 & AJS-37 Viggen!

[*Rage*]

Whilst I'm available both this week and next can we get a confirmation of which it will be?

[FLANKERATOR]

Unless further notification, match is set for this Saturday 10th.

 

Simple Radio has not been mentioned so probably not for this round.

 

Teamspeak IP will be posted soon. Gathering will be most likely around 19:30z with action kicking off at 20:30z

 

Every participant should of received a PM, please reply asap to confirm your slot.

[Bushmanni]

Actually Mig-21's horizontal sustained turn rate is currently superior to F-5's, but only in a relatively narrow speed margin (high speeds of ~800 km/h).

 

Actually MiG-21 is superior at all speeds (1 deg/s or more) and especially at slow speeds (600 km/h) where it's 3deg/s faster than F-5 optimum STR when both are at full tanks. With half tanks MiG-21 has 4 deg/s edge over F-5. There's no need for the MiG to go for scissors as it can escape it simply with level turn as F-5 will have poor turn rate at that speed while MiG is at it's optimum.

 

edit: I haven't actually tested if level turn works but it seems to me like a plausible option considering the STR numbers.

Edited December 6, 2016 by Bushmanni

[Stuge]

Actually MiG-21 is superior at all speeds (1 deg/s or more) and especially at slow speeds (600 km/h) where it's 3deg/s faster than F-5 optimum STR when both are at full tanks. With half tanks MiG-21 has 4 deg/s edge over F-5. There's no need for the MiG to go for scissors as it can escape it simply with level turn as F-5 will have poor turn rate at that speed while MiG is at it's optimum.

 

edit: I haven't actually tested if level turn works but it seems to me like a plausible option considering the STR numbers.

 

The level turn seems the only good way for Mig to escape an F-5, more complex maneuvers can be followed through. F-5 auto flaps help with this! Even then, the F-5 pilot can make a reversal if unable to follow a sustained turn, causing a somewhat head-on merge ideally.

 

The Mig pilot however struggles to stay behind a violently maneuvering F-5, overshoot occurs easily when going guns. Deep stall due to pulling stick too hard is a significant risk.

[FLANKERATOR]

There are 2 registration stages and your status will change accordingly:

 

1 - One you signed up the first time, your status will be marked as 'email pending' - your slot is not yet secured at this point.

2 - If you reply to the PM and send out your email address in time, your status will change to 'confirmed' or 'ready five' depending on whether you are in the main roster or reserve.

 

THIS ROSTER IS UPDATED FREQUENTLY, PLS PURGE YOUR BROWSER CACHE TO MAKE SURE YOU SEE THE CURRENT VERSION.

 

Edited December 7, 2016 by FLANKERATOR

[Yappo]

Members will play LS-build or 9-Dec Viggen in early access?

[FLANKERATOR]

I don't know, Hook has more to say on this.

[Robert31178]

Yeap, agreed Winchester. I am probably not going to purchase the Viggen, but I am stoked to see it and be around it. It's a neato plane. I'll be catching this program for sure!!

 

~S

[FLANKERATOR]

Registration is now closed, thanks everyone!

 

Here is the final roster for Saturday 10th. Expect more via email.

 

Good Luck guys!

 

[Hook47]

Hey guys,

 

Just to ease speculation- the Grudge Match Round 3 is in no way representative of any content release planned in DCS Friday! All I can say at the moment is that the plan is to distribute special files to the match participants, and those participants will be notified on how that will proceed :)

 

TeamSpeak Info is coming to participants via email first, so please make sure to check it often if you are on the roster!

 

SimpleRadio is a NO GO for this match. I love it, but it isn't doable particularly with unreleased special content in play

 

Thanks!

 

The level turn seems the only good way for Mig to escape an F-5, more complex maneuvers can be followed through. F-5 auto flaps help with this! Even then, the F-5 pilot can make a reversal if unable to follow a sustained turn, causing a somewhat head-on merge ideally.

 

The Mig pilot however struggles to stay behind a violently maneuvering F-5, overshoot occurs easily when going guns. Deep stall due to pulling stick too hard is a significant risk.

 

Hey Stuge, really saddened to hear you won't be able to make it this round, I hope all is well! You will be missed by your team of choice, and the opposing side can wipe a few beads of sweat away LOL

 

Good points on the MiG vs F-5, we saw several examples of that during Round 2. The overshoots and reversals were a solid tactic, in fact I think I remember a Red on Red friendly fire kill due to this!

Edited December 8, 2016 by Hook47

[Stuge]

Hey guys,

 

Just to ease speculation- the Grudge Match Round 3 is in no way representative of any content release planned in DCS Friday! All I can say at the moment is that the plan is to distribute special files to the match participants, and those participants will be notified on how that will proceed :)

 

TeamSpeak Info is coming to participants via email first, so please make sure to check it often if you are on the roster!

 

SimpleRadio is a NO GO for this match. I love it, but it isn't doable particularly with unreleased special content in play

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

Hey Stuge, really saddened to hear you won't be able to make it this round, I hope all is well! You will be missed by your team of choice, and the opposing side can wipe a few beads of sweat away LOL

 

Good points on the MiG vs F-5, we saw several examples of that during Round 2. The overshoots and reversals were a solid tactic, in fact I think I remember a Red on Red friendly fire kill due to this!

That friendly fire incident was a freak accident :D

 

I have big problems in personal life currently but I'll be back later again :)

[JaNk0]

Not only am I looking forward to the battle itself. I'm also excited to hear the excellent live commentary !

[Hook47]

Not only am I looking forward to the battle itself. I'm also excited to hear the excellent live commentary !

 

Thank you sir! We hope to deliver commentary that is worth hearing :)

 

Hoping to have some LNS devs in the Announcer box with me again, as we watch their new baby square off against the old kid on the block :D

[RAZBAM_ELMO]

Hook do you know if this would work if we compiled all of the necessary files and used them in JSGME or OVEGME

 

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[Hook47]

Hook do you know if this would work if we compiled all of the necessary files and used them in JSGME or OVEGME

 

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Hello,

 

It would be possible for sure, but as it stands now file distribution will be in the form of a download provided by Leatherneck that contains the CoreMod files needed for match participants to see and interact with (but not fly of course :) the AJS-37. Once a contest gets those files, use of other programs to install them is totally up to them, provided they can have it up and running nearly as quickly as simply dragging and dropping the files into the install. We probably won't be able to provide a JGSME version officially before the match, so that will be in the hands of the end user as long as what you guys make works OK :)

[RAZBAM_ELMO]

Oh as long as it's a core mods folder it's easy to make a containment folder for it.

 

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[Hook47]

Oh as long as it's a core mods folder it's easy to make a containment folder for it.

 

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Right now all files planned to be distributed to the participants of the match are planned to be under the CoreMods folder, so I don't see it being any trouble if you wanted to make a JGSME version for your own install. This will of course be repeated once the file share goes live to match participants, but these files are of course not authorize to be distributed outside of the Grudge Match around 3 participants or staff, as you can imagine ;)

[TIGER]

 

FRIDAY DEC 09 2016 20:00zulu at 104th TS - Tiger channel will be a briefing for Team TIGER

[FLANKERATOR]

Betting Competition for a chance to win an AJS-37 Viggen DCS module!

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=178595

[RAZBAM_ELMO]

Is the TS up. I cannot seem to connect at this time.

 

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[ColGray]

can someone send me the ts info

[razo+r]

Maybe you should change the Streamer, Hooks stream seems to have some real bad internet issues, it's buffering a lot

[Enduro14]

Agree their need some mo go juice for the stream

[impeller]

Maybe you should change the Streamer, Hooks stream seems to have some real bad internet issues, it's buffering a lot

 

 

 

Yes, it's 10sec of live, and then buffer

 

 

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[razo+r]

According to some who already had this issue, he would only have to lower the bitrate and everything would be ok