A question to ED Team: how to disable the cobra auto recovery ?

[Majesco]

At first, sorry I don’t speak Eng well

Cobra is the best features of Su-27/Su-33, I really love it but I wonder can the cobra automatic recovery be disable to improve the combat efficiency ? I know Cobra maneuver is only a script and no way to change but if it’s able to change the script or AI, I think Eagle Dynamic shoud make a new independent patch which disable cobra recovery with a new button set :joystick:

 

Detail:

_After doing cobra the SU-27/SU-33 will automatically recover, but with a new reputed patch, while doing cobra maneuver, at the angle of over 90 you can press a new button set of the patch and then your plane won’t recover automatically. So you can do a full loop, I think it’ll improve the combat efficiency of the Sukhoi planes. It’ll be more interesting, help you doing the SU-37 maneuver I’m not sure but it might be called Culbit – Chakra

 

I hope my idea will become true :pilotfly:

 

 

[Disso]

Thing is, Su-33's and Su-27's can't do these loops, only the Su-37 and Su-30MKI with the help of thrust vectoring..

[Joe Kurr]

Thrust Vectoring is not needed to do a Kulbit.

The Indian Air Force has demonstrated that it can be done with their (non-TVC) Su-30K as well.

[VMFA117_Poko]

I'm affraid You won't be able to dissable autorecovery 'couse whole cobra move is a script unfortunately :(.

[Force_Feedback]

I'm affraid You won't be able to dissable autorecovery 'couse whole cobra move is a script unfortunately :(.

 

Yes, and setting an ACS failure doesn't make the su-27/33 cobra-able because the whole cobra thing is scripted, as is the FM, causing total loss or response at under 120 kph, if not in afterburner.

 

Then again, F4 has paper planes with no inertia at all (su-25T has), but F4 is ancient, so it's not comparable to lomac IMHO.

[GGTharos]

How will it increase combat efficiency?

 

By letting you take a heater in the face?

By bleeding off every kph of energy you have while your opponent goes high and then dive back down on you?

[selu_99]

kobra is useful for evading missiles. its beacause the instantant bleed of energy. From 1200kh i get to 500 in 2 secs:)

[VMFA117_Poko]

kobra is useful for evading missiles. its beacause the instantant bleed of energy. From 1200kh i get to 500 in 2 secs:)

Also useful to hide from the older doppler radars for couple seconds and brake a lock (but not in the game).

[ФрогФут]

kobra is useful for evading missiles. its beacause the instantant bleed of energy. From 1200kh i get to 500 in 2 secs:)

0_о That's not Cobra. Cobra script works on ~400-450kph.

[S77th-GOYA]

kobra is useful for evading missiles. its beacause the instantant bleed of energy. From 1200kh i get to 500 in 2 secs:)

 

Try a Cobra at 1200KPH and you will wake up dead. Pulling past the AoA limiter at that speed would create a LOT of Gs.

[Pilotasso]

kobra is useful for evading missiles. its beacause the instantant bleed of energy. From 1200kh i get to 500 in 2 secs:)

 

thats also the average time to get you killed in it.

[GGTharos]

kobra is useful for evading missiles. its beacause the instantant bleed of energy. From 1200kh i get to 500 in 2 secs:)

 

Please do this when I'm launching missiles at you. PLEASE! ;)

Everyone USE THE KOBRA TO EVADE MISSILES! ;)

 

 

Evading missiles requires speed. Slowing down solves /all/ the problems a missile may have.

[Force_Feedback]

Stop talking about missiles, it's obvious he was referring to gunzo battles, then it is handy, but only if it has a surprise element, not when the bandit knows your speed is under 450kph, and you then do a cobra and end with 250kph :|

 

Talking about WRV missile merges is pointless, all current A-A heaters have superagility, so it doesn't matter if you get your nose on target or not, in gunzo it does, hence the usefulness of the cobra. And don't say it only can be used when there is an enemy on your six, and therefore has no use in combat.

[SVK_Fox]

Please do this when I'm launching missiles at you. PLEASE! ;)

Everyone USE THE KOBRA TO EVADE MISSILES! ;)

 

 

Evading missiles requires speed. Slowing down solves /all/ the problems a missile may have.

 

I did it many times also with success, also when you got enemy on your 6 and he firing shells and you are full of R-73.

It is one of reason. Not bad Idea I think.

[GGTharos]

I've seen it done many times, and no one but no one who's done it to me has survived it. But I suppose I keep an eye for it.

[SVK_Fox]

Problem is that you have to do it in right time and right place hehe :) Also one guy from RAF server did it also to mee and trust mee it was not nice for mee :) And it is moments when you dont see enemy which is front of you and flying below same direction, and he see you. So It is right moment for him to do it and kill you.

[GGTharos]

Yes I agree. Most people do not know when to use it, and they use it at the wrong time.

 

But when you use it, you better not miss... :)

[SVK_Fox]

:smilewink: thats true!!!

[A.S]

it is possible if u end up in a stall momemt ...but very rare points where it is usefull in a dogfight

[britgliderpilot]

I've seen it done in front of me before.

 

 

It's a beautiful sight . . . . . a very large, very stationary target growing rapidly larger in the center of the HUD. A quick burst of 30mm and it's all over :D

[Frostie]

:punch: You make me feel ashamed to say that I got a 73 up my chuffer after over-shooting a guy that pulled a pretty Kobra in front of me when im trying to gun him , humbling experience.

[GGTharos]

You should be ashamed. Why didn't you get outta his way?

 

Or better yet, why didn't you gun him down? :P