Blackshark 15.5.2007

[bogusheadbox]

In response to Hell SQN Protos

 

I am not taking a "personal" side in this debate. But if i am allowed I will input my opinion on it

 

If it is just about fighters, then why is the SU25 & (t), a-10 included. They are not fighters. They are dedicated ground pounding platforms only.

 

So if we have learned to accept aircraft such as the 25 and a-10 as acceptable airframes included in this sim, then i see no reason why the black shark would not fall under the same catagory.

 

I originally thought "who cares" when they announced black shark.

 

But the more i hear about it, the more it sparks my interest. A supposed 300+ page manual and growing (as stated on another thread), AFM, 6DOF and full clickable cockpit. Those things alone encompass the ideals behind a sim.

 

Take into that consideration with better ground textures and the "supposed" additional fixes to other areas of the sim outside of the BS that have been disregarded for so long. And that may be enough to warrant a look at the expansion in itself.

 

Using the justification of the words "Fighter Sim" to denounce the BS add on is unfounded in my opinion. Purely becuase dedicated ground attack platforms have been an important part of this sim since day one.

 

1) BS is a dedicated ground attack platform.

2) It fits into the realm of battlefield that Lockon has created.

3) It may be the most indepth simulated aircraft in the lock on world yet and possibly the most indepth helo sim in the entire genre.

 

For those reasons alone, it is a justified expansion wether its your idea of fun, or not.

 

Of course. This is all conjecture as i, like many, have no idea of what it will be like. And until then i can only go by what i read (which sounds promissing). But i will not purchase it until i understand a lot more about it in case it does suck monkey butt.

 

 

As for your last statement that no one will purchase this when FO comes out. I am not sure i share your sentiments.

 

FO has no planned release date. My estimations would be end of 2007 earliest (but i could be horribly wrong). And the first release will be the UPT training only. Combat aircraft will be released in the addons later, provided the original sells to expectations.

 

FO sounds on paper what I and a lot of people want. It has set itself a very high standard. Yet it still won't encompass PC helos (well not for some time). Therefore BS will still hold a place in the market for some time. Even if it is only to a neiche market.

 

But who knows.

[britgliderpilot]

The only reason it hasn't come out SO FAR is because they are trying to ram in some last minute fixes for the Fighter Community. Do you really expect fighter jocks to abandon their rides for a helicopter??? How long will the average person be happy shooting AI tanks?

 

OMG!! Someone's been talking! The top secret ED development process is laid bare for all to see!

 

Err . . . . . no. Yer wrong ;) And probably trolling, too.

 

 

There's a basic lack of understanding going on here. The others seem to be doing a fairly good job of explaining to someone who can't be explained to, but I'm feeling masochistic so will bang my head against the wall again.

 

1. Black Shark is a helicopter sim.

2. It has won over plenty of fast jet pilots already. If you really don't believe it's your thing, fine. But not everyone else in the world shares that viewpoint.

 

 

Oh and believe me, if it launches at the same time as Fighter Ops -- No one will be buying it.

 

You're funny :P

 

 

I'll grant you the limited mission aspect - it's a pain in the arse. However, blowing stuff up and joyriding even for a couple of months is worth the money.

It's limiting, but then I haven't played Far Cry since I completed it . . . . and I forked out more for that than FC.

 

One day we might get the holy grail of mission generators, but for now I'm not going to cross an otherwise good sim off my list because in six months time I'll stop playing it ;)

 

 

( . . . . we're putting a lot of effort into this, aren't we?

What's the betting that somewhere there's an F4 forum slapping it's collective back about it? ;) )

[ALDEGA]

Oh and believe me, if it launches at the same time as Fighter Ops -- No one will be buying it.

Drama Queen.

 

Whatever your smoking I will have some.

Please, stop smoking.

[yamangman]

I guess that is why they have a Beta test program :)

 

Yea, the original did too :s

[Highwayman-Ed]

Hell, I'm on the fringe list then.. I used to fly helicopters, and introducing one to Lock On is the best thing that I think could have happened for the sim.

 

:pilotfly:

[192nd_Erdem]

. . . . you'd be disappointed if you didn't get something with the game that wasn't on the featurelist?

 

You're inevitably going to be disappointed!

 

 

The Ka50 is just fantastic. I was never really a fan of helicopters . . . . until I laid my hands on that thing, it's huge fun.

 

Well, if you exceed your release date with over one year, either you're in a big trouble or you're adding much more features. As far as I've seen from videos, Ka-50 is more or less complete for 5-6 months.

 

I admit I've exaggerated that post a bit though. There's no way I'm going to be disappointed with something from ED :) I just want more "features" while they have so much time in their hands.

[Guest Hell Sqn Protos]

No one gives a damn what you think. Black Shark will be what Black Shark will be. If you don't like it, move along.

 

Save your money for Fighter Ops if you think that'll be more your style.

 

Jester - appropriate callsign for you.

 

Apparently you do noob cause your posting. Be sure I will buy F.O. - lucky for you - along with career mode they will have a kiddie setting :thumbup:

 

I love winding you fanboys up. :megalol: - there are so many of you that there is a whole 50-60 people flying online. Go fanbois ra ra ra ra ra. :megalol:

 

Hey jester little girl if you got a beef - gunzo? Pm me if your interested.

[Guest Hell Sqn Protos]

 

( . . . . we're putting a lot of effort into this, aren't we?

What's the betting that somewhere there's an F4 forum slapping it's collective back about it? ;) )

 

I couldn't resist the double post - I just saw this BGP and I laughed so hard that have to give you a thumbs up and S~!

 

Exactly.

[Groove]

Thanks God you are no fanboi Protos ;)

[Jester_159th]

Hey jester little girl if you got a beef - gunzo? Pm me if your interested.

 

 

Better suggestion for you asswipe:

 

If you're ever in the UK, let me know. We'll meet face to face and see how big your mouth is in the real world.

 

I'll happilly repeat anything I've ever said to anyone on an internet forum to their face. Be interesting to see if you've got the balls to do that.

 

Anytime little boy. I'll be waiting.

[kyborgs]

- lucky for you - along with career mode they will have a kiddie setting :thumbup:

 

[nscode]

I think that website just has a script doing that to us :D

[Dmut]

everybody say "good-bye" to this wonderful thread. time to move on.