Il2 1946 and FSX killing LO/FC....

[Kula66]

(They said the same for FC)

 

I seem to remember the F-15's radar got touched .... ;(

[GGTharos]

Did you shoot anyone down yet witht hat MiG-15? ;)

[RvETito]

Well yes some do..

 

;)

 

Are you serious? At the end of this clip the head(or at least the eyes) of the "pilot" is where is supposed to be his stomach:D:D:D

[theGozr]

you want me to show you the buble fisheye of the lockon cockpits :)

Nooooo! so...!! ;) well anyway there very different sims for differents purposes.

 

Did you shoot anyone down yet with hat MiG-15? i knew it ...a air quaker!!! ;)no wonder .. Well ok.. i have both so i can enjoy one or the other for what they are good at. i hope you do to.

[Vati]

The funny part is FSX is even less realistic in FM than Lockon... in best case, they are equally bad :)

FSX is the best kool-aid fsim you can buy...

[S77th-GOYA]

AMEN.. some need to find a way to deal with it...

 

Many have in different ways.

 

The majority have simply chosen to stop using ED's product. Several hardcore fans of LOMAC have simply stopped flying online and/or posting on this forum.

 

Some express their dislike for ED's choices and/or facets of ED's product.

 

Some make efforts to improve what we have been sold, although some important things can't be improved upon by the community.

 

Some have nothing but wonderful things to say about ED and all that they do.

 

Personally, I find it difficult to maintain enthusiasm for this game. It has serious shortcomings with systems/weapons modelling and no corrections are in sight. ED chooses to sell us a helo rather than to fix our jets.

 

Testers can talk all day about how amazing the Ka-50 is going to be and it just does nothing for me. If I end up buying BS, I'm sure I'll give the Ka-50 a chance just like I did with the 25T. Although my current interest in the helo is even less than it was for the T, and that was considerably low.

 

Merry Christmas

[Pilotasso]

Many have in different ways.

 

The majority have simply chosen to stop using ED's product. Several hardcore fans of LOMAC have simply stopped flying online and/or posting on this forum.

 

 

It would be interesting if you could compile a list of names who have donne so.

I can think only of one that gave this explanation. If they did stop posting here at the same time then the reason is more likely to be something else, like their real life affairs, or their behaviour on these boards :banned:

I think your supposition is an exaggeration. It does not reflect reality.

 

I have been online since the game came out, and while I reccon that ED missed many of our interests, and that the planes need fixing, saying the majority of harcore fans stopped playing because of the list of missing fixes, is going too far IMHO because they played a game wich allows DACT, and if they did stop playing because of this, then theyll missing alot and shot themselves on the foot. There arent many SIM's out there today you know. ;)

[suntrace1]

Well yes some do..

 

;)

 

 

Why o why did I see this - now, I want one! Why doesn't ED do an add-on for 6DOF cockpits for other planes? That would boost the sales. Or at least give the community the tools needed to do so. You made me :cry: on xmas...

[S77th-GOYA]

saying the majority of harcore fans stopped playing because of the list of missing fixes, is going too far IMHO

 

Read my post again. I didn't say that.

 

You yourself have recently posted about being bored and being drawn to the "Dark side".

 

There was a time when you and I both were online A LOT. And now we're not. When I am online the names I had been used to usually seeing are rarely if ever there. Make your own list of those people.

 

And do not read into my post that everyone who is gone left because of poor software.

[theGozr]

I hated Microsoft before with passion but since FSX i tried and tried, i was hooked for good, FSX is a great tools for simmer as photoshop for illustrators or painters, I can say openly that MY FM from the planes that i correct are BETTER than Lockon, I can modified to my knowledge my flights models. I love it.

 

I agree 100% with S77th-GOYA Like i said at the beggining of this post i didn't touch Lockon since fsx came out witch is quite some time now and i love it ...and..... they don't shoot a measing and i just enjoy it, use it as a tool and fallowing real routes etc..

 

I have some friends witch were on Lockon and as well don't fly lockon anymore... I really hope The helico is a facade and i hope they did improved some old problems.

 

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSbCHxeg3uo

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoR9gCSm3oc

[theGozr]

I realy think i am not the only one, i see now as S77th-GOYA that speak up and clear.!!!!!

[theGozr]

Anyway Merry Christmas, it's time now ;)

[uhoh7]

the myth that drives me crazy: there's no market for flight sims.

 

that's the kind of often encouraged misbelief that drives capital away.

 

Far as 1946, I did order mine today--only becasue i am bored waiting for BS and I appreciate Oleg.

 

His next sim will be pretty nice I think---I hope.

 

The Idea that one sim "kills" another is pretty dumb. If we started seeing really great sims which had it all and were good online too---well that might be dangerous. The bare fact that F4 still lives tells you how short of full potential we are. Today ANY attempt at a sim encourages and sells ALL of them.

 

For the price of one decent McMansion in Vail, something really great could be built from the ground up or nearly. And it would sell like crazy.

[SUBS17]

I believe you would also see great difference in how it flies in turns and rolls - not in 'routine' flight so much as in actual combat.

 

I think a pilot in an AFM Mig29 would be far more careful in a dogfight for example as the aircrafts engine performance limitations would probably result in flameouts etc If the player isn't careful. It would be quite interesting to fly thats for sure(especially fully loaded).

[SUBS17]

I beg to differ. The best Vietnam movie ever made bar-none is Hamburger Hill. I havent seen it in ages and I forgot most of the highlights, but yeah.

 

 

"Siege on Firebase Gloria" and "The odd angry shot" for me.

[SUBS17]

Well Lockon is not getting popular at the moment!! Like i said before, ED mist the train by not listening some advices from members and They realy have to do some work into the online problems example the none existing turbulences ONLINE and more... the 6 DOF on FSX and addons weather, clouds, real planes routes etc..... It's just fantastic ... If only Lockon would have little bit of that...

 

Well what is your opinion ?

 

Alas I didn't touch Lockon/FC since FSX just because of turbulences that make you feel flying.. Many are looking for realism as well .

I need to come back into Lockon but those Online no turbulences just drive me nuts..

 

FSX is a sim for a totally different market so you can't really compare it to a jet combat sim such as Lockon. It has always had a big community since the first FS was released. You mention turbulence lockon does feature turbulence but there are other sims that don't model it at all that are quite popular such as F4 and some of its mods and also F4AF. I don't find turbulence that big a deal in flight sims, particularly if I'm dog fighting etc. The only time it bothers me in a sim is on finals.(IRL of course it can be a problem, lets not forget though that at least g is modelled and it is a factor when dogfighting) For a game or sim to become popular it requires more than just turbulence there are many other factors required to enhance a sim to give it that effect that makes people want to keep flying it. Previous sims released did have this effect such as Janes F-15E, longbow, F-18E, Falcon 4/3, combat pilot etc. Now days the majority of jet combat flight simmers fly off line. There are players that fly online in hyperlobby and in Squadrons but the vast majority are offline. And add to that if a sim requires a patch to work then a large percentage would likely put lockon on the shelf for that reason(even lockon golds release was botched:doh: ) I think for any future sim to bring simmers online is to have a lobby built in like Janes lobby and to have a product relatively free of bugs before release(so at least it is playable for someone who isn't on the internet and encourages the player to want to keep using it). I'm hoping that EDs sim after BS would be more in this manner when its made.

[theGozr]

SUBS17

Lockon do not simulate turbulences or any of frictions air mass etc.. ONLINE.. read again above posts./

[tflash]

Well, mostly FSX blows up my computer. It often just reboots my PC for no reason. I agree that it is better than FS9, but that is as far as I would like to go. Performance is OK but well below what I can get in Lockon.

 

As for the turbulence effects, I do not know where theGozr is flying but where I fly the effects are not different from what I feel in Lockon.

 

And BTW is it true you cannot have turbulence online in Lockon? I really doubt so. Mostly the servers choose fair wheather, but that is a choice, not a limitation.

[theGozr]

It's a world of differences.. take the time to read the posts in this thread

 

 

just to make clear just get Offline fly a mission with your turbulences and some winds set it to 3 for example now fly and go above montains etc.. do the same thing ONLINE you will Understand real quick.

[RvETito]

I think a pilot in an AFM Mig29 would be far more careful in a dogfight for example as the aircrafts engine performance limitations would probably result in flameouts etc If the player isn't careful. It would be quite interesting to fly thats for sure(especially fully loaded).

 

There's no such probability IRL. The RD-33 has proven to be extremely stable at every possible situation- from negative airspeed, in case of a tail slide maneuver to Mach 2.35. It has of course service limitations but they are common for all engines of supersonic a/c. What should pilot have in mind concerning engines during dogfight is that they have huge fuel consumption and he should monitor the fuel he got left.

[tflash]

It's a world of differences.. take the time to read the posts in this thread

 

 

just to make clear just get Offline fly a mission with your turbulences and some winds set it to 3 for example now fly and go above montains etc.. do the same thing ONLINE you will Understand real quick.

 

 

Indeed, if you fly the same mission in bad weather, first single user and than in multiplayer, you realize that in multiplayer the turbulence is not there anymore.

 

So your question is simply "ED, can we have turbulence in multiplayer also?".

 

Seems an honest question. I guess the problem will be performance, no?

[SUBS17]

There's no such probability IRL. The RD-33 has proven to be extremely stable at every possible situation- from negative airspeed, in case of a tail slide maneuver to Mach 2.35. It has of course service limitations but they are common for all engines of supersonic a/c. What should pilot have in mind concerning engines during dogfight is that they have huge fuel consumption and he should monitor the fuel he got left.

 

Are you 100% certain of that, think about all those Mig29s that have crashed at airshows.

[SUBS17]

 

Yes I read all posts in this thread including your statement about it not featuring turbulence online. Did you ever consider having 1.02 on your pc? I think dynamic weather would be a better feature than just turbulence on its own. I find it quite interesting how weather can effect flying in other sims particularly bombing missions where you take off in a sunny airfield and arrive an hour later at your target and there is low cloud. Its good to also get weather reports in flight such as wind direction etc.

[RvETito]

Are you 100% certain of that, think about all those Mig29s that have crashed at airshows.

 

If you talk about the Anatoly Kvochur's plane crash at Le Bourget in 1989 it is caused by engine failure, i.e. malfunction or bird suction. I'm a bit suspicious about that bird theory because from all footage I've seen there haven't been a single sign of a bird. But the point is that the failure isn't caused because of the flight limitations overlimit. The engine has proven to work absolutely stable in very big AOA, speed and altitude ranges. But you actualy have a point- the RD-33(or at least engines from 1st and 2dn series) is one of most unreliable engines that the russians have produced, mainly for structural issues of the fuel nozzles manifold and combustion chamber cracks thendency, but there haven't been any remarks concerning compressor stalls or sudden flameouts in the entire flight envelope of the MiG-29.

[theGozr]

SUBS17 have lockon since it first came out , i know pretty well the whole thing i have Flaming CLiff btw.. please before posting some question like those just give it a try and tell me if you have anything but wind ONLINE, if you do you are my hero if you don't you would be a nwoooob ..to all. now think about that. ;)

To have a minimum of them ONLINE is the whole deal.. this would be a hudge step for the online comunity to have a dynamic weather that would be too much to do ...but..... humm!!! ;)

Now thinking of it if i have to choose between an helico addon and dynamic weather well i will take the weather right away with out thinking about it.