F-15 Radar Target BRA vs BULLS Poll

[The AMRAAMer]

Would you guys rather have the F-15 radar screen display a target's BRA (bearing, range, altitude) relative to your aircraft or the targets location relative to the bullseye?

[frixon28]

Since I mostly play singe player, and the AI is useless anyway, I like BRA. However for a simulation focused on around realistic simulation, and in a multiplayer environment with competent players all talking to each other, BULLS any day...

[SinusoidDelta]

I think both should be an option.

[Sweep]

Mental trig.

[SinusoidDelta]

Purely my opinion but, although mental triangulation is essential for SA, invoking Pythagoras during combat is certainly a ‘less than ideal’ solution with hands full.

Edited October 30, 2017 by SinusoidDelta
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[Svend_Dellepude]

I think both should be an option.

 

+1

[Capn kamikaze]

Both, but I find BRA more useful.

[The AMRAAMer]

True, personally I feel BULLS is easier when cooperating with other aircraft to pick out individual targets

[Bushmanni]

You need BRAA to employ missiles effectively and to evade enemy missiles so you can't fight without it. BULLS would be really nice but you can fight without it.

[Svend_Dellepude]

BULLS is more useful if you are on coms

 

Edit: what the Amraamer said

[oldpop]

how do I display "bulls eye"? I am very familiar with its use in the VRS FA18, but can't find where to ref it in the F15??

[GGTharos]

The real radar screen displays both, or more specifically, it displays PDT offset from the currently selected WP. WPs are also displayed on the real radar screen.

 

Since the in-game radar does not, you can still compute it via fix-to-fix navigation techniques. You just need to have a WP that represents bullseye.

 

The SIT display on the MPCD displays bullseye proper, but we don't have a functioning SIT display in game :)

 

You can probably expect to not see any of this in the FC3 jet. BRAA is most relevant when the fighting starts, bullseye references are for coordination among geographically separated groups, or when a lot of groups need to be informed of the contact position at the same time.

Edited February 6, 2018 by GGTharos

[pauldy]

BRA

Bullseye ideally changes everytime.. its confusing for me sometimes...

[Akula]

Bra for me..... Allows me to visualize where the target is faster than Bullseye. For me, when working with BE I need to remember where BE is and it's just another step to attain SA...

 

I choose BRA! :)

[RShackleford]

IRL, the F-15 scope gives you both. I wish it was like this in game. Bullseye would actually be better than just BRAA at a minimum because it gives GCI/AWACS a better air combat picture when people give "targeted" and "fox 3" calls. If I could choose one, it would be bullseye, but another limitation of the DCS F-15 is that it gives BRAA on your PDT rather than where your cursors are. It's harder to target into people when your cursors aren't showing any BRAA info, just info to where your target it. Only disadvantage to this is during maneuvering your finger might slip on the TDC and bring the cursors off the PDT, but you can quickstep to your PDT easily using the coolie switch and it hooks the cursor back onto the PDT to give you accurate bullseye and braa info again. I've pretty much given up on BVR DCS stuff because the radars and missiles are so poorly modeled, but flight model is best out there so I do a lot of guns only stuff for fun now. Falcon BMS has a better modeled AMRAAM if you want to get into that, but there's no good multiplayer for it.

[fitness88]

I think Bogey Dope is BRAA relative to your plane while Request Picture is relative to bullseye.

[Sierra99]

" Bullseye is used in case radio communications are intercepted by the enemy - since the bullseye point is agreed upon prior to the flight and is not stated over the radio, the enemy will not be able to determine where you are referring to if you use bullseye terminology. In addition, using bullseye coordinates helps improve situational awarness, since it is an absolute frame of reference. If AWACS tells another aircraft that they have enemy fighters at "3 o'clock, 25 miles", you have no idea where they are. However, saying that the fighters are at "bullseye 120 at 100 miles" tells you exactly where they are located "

 

THAT being said...once the fur ball starts I want to know where the bad guy is in relation to ME...NOT some imaginary point on the ground...at that point we all know where each other are.