rogonaut Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 is anyone playing with the bombers again lately? doing everything as before but those b17s wont go into box formatian anymore, just some echolon right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blech Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Hi, :dunno: Perhaps not that what you ask for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogonaut Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) ill try that out, never made a normal advanced waypoint "formation" before. Edited December 15, 2017 by rogonaut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blech Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Hi Three B-17 samples from ED https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3176515&postcount=27 I modified ED`s B_17_Wing_of_CombatBox_stress.miz Altitude 25,000 ft Speed ME 225 = 150 IAS Bomber + 4x escort have no gun ammo and some basic-examples * Search and Engage * Attack Map Object * Switch Waypoint As long as the AI flight/damage model isn`t revised I use this as a :D stress-free dog-fight training ( climbing, avoid stalling, avoid overheating, ... ) If you are familiar with MIZ (= ZIP) and Notepad++ You can replace ["gun"] = 0, with ["gun"] = 100, in \B_17 36x3 no gun ammo\mission - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogonaut Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 ok kul i got it to work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double_D Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Bomber Formation Hey This is usually the bomber formation diamond shape..so gunners can cover each plane along with themselves.. [TABLE][/url][sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic89949_15.gif[/sIGPIC][/Table] Recruiting for Aerobatic Team/Fighter Group... My Youtube channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muehlema Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I tried to do a big wing with the HE111. It would only allow me to add one plane per group. Is that normal? X-Plane 11.5x / DCS 2.5.6 / P3Dv5 / Aerofly FS 2 / War Thunder Win10-x64 | ASUS Z390 Maximus VI | Intel i7-9700K @3.6GHz | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB DDR4 | 6TB SSD Samsung 850 Pro | 2TB M2 PCI 4x | ASUS GTX 1080 ROG STRIX 8GB DDR5X | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | Oculus Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebreak Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 is anyone playing with the bombers again lately? doing everything as before but those b17s wont go into box formatian anymore, just some echolon right. Again I'll say, where are the bombs? Why would anyone waste time on formations, when you have nothing to bomb with? " I Know You Understand What You Think I Said...But I Am Not Sure You Realize... That What You Heard....Is Probably.... Not What I Meant. ":pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blech Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I tried to do a big wing with the HE111. It would only allow me to add one plane per group. Is that normal? Hi, Only a little test - no problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1966 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Again I'll say, where are the bombs? Why would anyone waste time on formations, when you have nothing to bomb with? the b-17 is default empty, just add the bomb loadout and they work fine We are Virtual Pilots, a growing International Squad of pilots, we fly Allies in WWII and Red Force in Korea and Modern combat. We are recruiting like minded people of all Nationalities and skill levels. http://virtual-pilots.com/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double_D Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 the b-17 is default empty, just add the bomb loadout and they work fine Can't load bombs...set waypoint then bomb drop point no bombs to drop:music_whistling: [TABLE][/url][sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic89949_15.gif[/sIGPIC][/Table] Recruiting for Aerobatic Team/Fighter Group... My Youtube channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorovaMB Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Can't load bombs...set waypoint then bomb drop point no bombs to drop:music_whistling: You need to create a new payload in the mission editor to be able to load bombs on the B-17. In the loadouts page, click the "New" button to create a new loadout. The B-17 has a single hardpoint. Right click this hardpoint, select "Bombs", select "12 AN-M64", and viola, you have bombs. For B-17s I use the advanced waypoint assignment "WWII:carpet bombing". This always works for me, although get ready for a serious fps drop when the bombers drop their bombs. For about 10 sec or so it's a slide show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double_D Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) You need to create a new payload in the mission editor to be able to load bombs on the B-17. In the loadouts page, click the "New" button to create a new loadout. The B-17 has a single hardpoint. Right click this hardpoint, select "Bombs", select "12 AN-M64", and viola, you have bombs. For B-17s I use the advanced waypoint assignment "WWII:carpet bombing". This always works for me, although get ready for a serious fps drop when the bombers drop their bombs. For about 10 sec or so it's a slide show. When I say " No Bombs " this is of course because I see no bombs in payload after making a new payload...but I will try once more your way...:music_whistling: Edit: 3:12pm Still no bombs to load... Edited March 17, 2018 by Double_D [TABLE][/url][sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic89949_15.gif[/sIGPIC][/Table] Recruiting for Aerobatic Team/Fighter Group... My Youtube channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Orso Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 You have to add a load-out scheme to the B-17G. You only have to do it once. It's like a template. Once you've do it, it can be used on any B-17G you add in the ME. When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double_D Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 You have to add a load-out scheme to the B-17G. You only have to do it once. It's like a template. Once you've do it, it can be used on any B-17G you add in the ME. " Loadout scheme???? " [TABLE][/url][sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic89949_15.gif[/sIGPIC][/Table] Recruiting for Aerobatic Team/Fighter Group... My Youtube channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorovaMB Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Assuming I can figure out how to attach a pic.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double_D Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Assuming I can figure out how to attach a pic.... Done that numerous times, and for some reason this time the bombs showed up thanks...:smartass::thumbup: [TABLE][/url][sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic89949_15.gif[/sIGPIC][/Table] Recruiting for Aerobatic Team/Fighter Group... My Youtube channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorovaMB Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Done that numerous times, and for some reason this time the bombs showed up thanks...:smartass::thumbup: Glad it worked out. Now just pray it doesn't get broken in the next beta patch, lol. ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahdoh Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Do the bombers now hold formation and defend with gun placements when attacked? or do they still think they are fighters and try to dogfight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 They hold formation while firing defensive. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double_D Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Do the bombers now hold formation and defend with gun placements when attacked? or do they still think they are fighters and try to dogfight? Haven't gone that far yet..now that I got the bombs to show up..later today will setup a small formation and check it out...:thumbup: [TABLE][/url][sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic89949_15.gif[/sIGPIC][/Table] Recruiting for Aerobatic Team/Fighter Group... My Youtube channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double_D Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Copy/Paste Hey; Can we copy/paste on mission editor?? and if so what is the seqeunce keys I've tried Control C and Control P doesn't work??:doh: [TABLE][/url][sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic89949_15.gif[/sIGPIC][/Table] Recruiting for Aerobatic Team/Fighter Group... My Youtube channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KorovaMB Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Hey; Can we copy/paste on mission editor?? and if so what is the seqeunce keys I've tried Control C and Control P doesn't work??:doh: Control C to copy and Control V to paste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double_D Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) Control C to copy and Control V to paste. Thanks..:thumbup: Bomber Formation Edited March 20, 2018 by Double_D [TABLE][/url][sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic89949_15.gif[/sIGPIC][/Table] Recruiting for Aerobatic Team/Fighter Group... My Youtube channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehouse Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) Just an FYI for the old bomber mods like the He111. When they were released aircraft in the strategic bomber class could only be a single aircraft in a flight so there is a parameter you should be able to locate in the main aircraft lua that looks like singleInFlight = true change this to singleInFlight = false being careful not to chop off the comma at the end of the line. You will then be able to have up to 4 aircraft in a flight and with the changes that came in with the B17 from ED all the aircraft will appear in game - well they did for me with a quick test of the He111 this evening anyway. So for an example to help out, if you look in the He111 folder you'll find a file named something like He111.lua. Open it up with notepad++, scroll down to around line 223 and you find the parameter I mention above. Change it as suggested, save it and exit. Load up DCS and see if you can create a formation of 4 aircraft in the editor and go from there. All the bombers like the B26 and B24 etc that Markindel released will be like this if I recall things correctly. Please note that if you use something like JSGME you need to unload the mod before you make the edit and then reload the mod before starting DCS. This should save you some work in creating formations although I do not know if setting them up using the WW2 bomber formation and carpet bombing advanced waypoint actions will work properly as there may be special code for the ED B17 which is not present in the mod. Note also that due to the inability to properly set the turret firing arcs in these mods you will find the formation of He111s etc very deadly. Basically no-one has discovered how to set up the turrets properly since the release of the official B17. Have a go anyway and see how you travel. Hope it helps. Edited March 19, 2018 by Stonehouse typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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