*Rage* Posted January 1, 2018 Posted January 1, 2018 Sold! To say it looks epic is an understatement. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22
jocko417 Posted January 1, 2018 Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) This looks very interesting! Congrats, VKB, can’t wait to see your WW2 throttle unit! :) Edit: TECS looks like a pretty good fit for F-5E pilots.... Edited January 1, 2018 by jocko417
smallberries Posted January 1, 2018 Posted January 1, 2018 Awesome to see both VKB and VPC getting busy with giving us new toys. One thought, maybe some day down the line, but as someone who will likely be swapping from airplane/throttle games to space sims and dual sticking it, and as long as the grips are modular, it would be awesome if there was a way to remove the throttle grips and swap in a LH stick :-) I can dream, can't I? (with twist)
RFC Rudel Posted January 1, 2018 Posted January 1, 2018 Awesome to see both VKB and VPC getting busy with giving us new toys. One thought, maybe some day down the line, but as someone who will likely be swapping from airplane/throttle games to space sims and dual sticking it, and as long as the grips are modular, it would be awesome if there was a way to remove the throttle grips and swap in a LH stick :-) I can dream, can't I? (with twist) https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=vkb-sim-kosmosima-space-simulation-grip
Barefoot Bandit Posted January 1, 2018 Posted January 1, 2018 Ohhh... That looks very, very nice... Looking forward to seeing how this all develops! Z...
Uther Posted January 1, 2018 Posted January 1, 2018 A picture of the WW2 throttle would be nice... i5 4690k / MSI Gaming 5 / 2 x 8 GB Crucial Ballistix ram / Zotac AMP! 980Ti / 2 x 250 SSDs Flight Controls:Virpil VPC MoogoosT-50 / MFG Crosswinds / GVL Throttle / Oculus Rift CV1
Sokol1_br Posted January 1, 2018 Posted January 1, 2018 A picture of the WW2 throttle would be nice... Problem is that for now no one (maker) conclude how should look a "modern" WW2 throttle.:D
RFC Rudel Posted January 1, 2018 Posted January 1, 2018 Problem is that for now no one (maker) conclude how should look a "modern" WW2 throttle.:D remove your leaks....he said.
Soulraptor Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 Wow! My Warthog throttle started dying just in time... Just waiting on some pedals with toe brakes and I will go full VKB.
UIV Posted January 2, 2018 Author Posted January 2, 2018 https://s26.postimg.org/gnamfopvt/TECS_v02_5.jpg
some1 Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 Better :) What are those two finger buttons? Part of the afterburner detent system? Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
aaron886 Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 I sure hope so! I hope they lift up rather than push down, but either way I'd be happy. Looks great.
UIV Posted January 2, 2018 Author Posted January 2, 2018 Better :) What are those two finger buttons? Part of the afterburner detent system? Right
UIV Posted January 2, 2018 Author Posted January 2, 2018 Problem is that for now no one (maker) conclude how should look a "modern" WW2 throttle.:D VKB-SIM SETS "Vintage" Single Engine Throttle System
StandingCow Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 Oh damn.... I am loving the front of the twin modern controller... and that Vintage one is a work of art. 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo
ram0506 Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) Right Is there a switch on the left side of the left throttle lever of the TECS for lighting (like on the TM Warthog throttle)? Edited January 2, 2018 by ram0506 I7 6700K, Asus Z170 Pro Gaming, EVGA GTX1080Ti SC, 32GB DDR4 @ 3000, Win10 64, BenQ EW3270ZL 2560x1440, VPC WarBRD Base + TM Warthog Grip, TM Warthog Throttle, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals, Oculus Rift S
rogonaut Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 also some kind of slider for zoom? im using the slider 1 on the warthog.
Buckeye Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) Unveiling the VKB TECS Throttle Control System If those mini sticks click down (in) too, this is literally the PERFECT throttle design. Swap a couple of the base buttons for 3 way switches and I don't think anyone could find a way to complain about anything. Better What are those two finger buttons? Part of the afterburner detent system? Finger lifts for AB. You have to lift them to pass the gate into AB. All jets do it a little differently (push through, finger lifts to get over into AB and/or idle, push left and then up, etc and some react differently when there is weight on the wheels vs airborne)...but these look like classic finger lifts The Hornet does it a really weird way, but for this throttle it appears to have both throttle cut offs on the palm side and finger lifts for AB on the finger side. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited January 2, 2018 by =Buckeye= Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
Buckeye Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 Unveiling the VKB TECS Throttle Control System also some kind of slider for zoom? im using the slider 1 on the warthog. Antenna Elevation Control in the real jets, but could be mapped to zoom for DCS (if desired) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
some1 Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) Finger lifts for AB. You have to lift them to pass the gate into AB. I know what they do in real life, I'm asking how they work here. :) If those mini sticks click down (in) too, this is literally the PERFECT throttle design. Swap a couple of the base buttons for 3 way switches and I don't think anyone could find a way to complain about anything. I could find a few ;) But most of it comes from the fact that this unit is stylized after Russian aircraft design, so: - no USA-style airbrake switch (maybe there is, but I'm, judging based on the screenshots). - no analog cursor slew. Russian aircraft usually have it on the stick, western on the throttle. - too few hats/switches to map A-10/F-15 hotas. Edited January 2, 2018 by some1 Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
sc_neo Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) Hrm...the TECS looks promising. But in my book, not ''overloading'' the throttle with hats and switches sounds 'reasonable' at first, but i have just imagined how to assign the A-10c throttle functions on this one. And, it seems to me we would be missing at least two more 4 way hats for good measure (one in front and one on the right side). Yes, the MCG grip series has enough to transfer the missing inputs from the throttle to the stick, but i honestly prefer to keep it bound to the correct input device. Could you post an image of the left side of the throttle? Is there some switch or hat or something like the A-10c's pinky switch? Again, would be kinda the same wasted space like Virpil seems to forgo with their throttle design. And yeah, especially if you mention 'VR potential' as one deciding factor, then there should definetely be as many hats/switches as ergonomically possible on the throttle so you need to fumble around blindly only for very exotic functions. Anyway, looking forward to this throttle! BTW; is that black circular thing on the left throttle a rotary axis for zooming for instance? Edited January 2, 2018 by sc_neo
Buckeye Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 I know what they do in real life, I'm asking how they work here. :) I could find a few ;) But most of it comes from the fact that this unit is stylized after Russian aircraft design, so: - no USA-style airbrake switch - no analog cursor slew. Russian aircraft usually have it on the stick, western on the throttle. - too few buttons to map A-10/F-15 hotas. Oh, I guess I'm not sure why the question would even be asked then...what else would they be for? Apologies for the confusion, anyway... Speed brake switch matches that of the Hornet quite well (not the Warthog style), and the amount of buttons available on the throttle itself is 1:1, with the exception of maybe missing the toggle on the left/outside of the throttle. Again, I don't see anything to complain about. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
Beamscanner Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 Looks great but I'd like to see -one of the two sliders replaced with the two forward buttons and extended (zoom slider). -An analog slew on the throttle (or perhaps a new grip that can support one)
Buckeye Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 When I was looking at this I was assuming that both the index finger and thumb hats acted (or could at least optionally act) as analog sticks/TDC slews; is that not the case? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
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