D4n Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 Not sure, watch Vive reviews for that :P (But I heard from a guy that the Rift is not that bad with the unsharp area) DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
TomOnSteam Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 Hopefully DCS will support natively in the near future :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cockpit Spectator Mode
D4n Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 Yes I think most problem is caused by memory leak though (hoping this is related to it as Singleplayer works nearly flawless in WRM!) DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
D4n Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 3 things I noticed that make more fun/important: 1. headset (audio) must be over the WMR and way forward so headset doesn't fall off the WMR (maybe even tape headset to the WMR) 2. would be good t have some hard stuff around my head (wood or plastic, as "cockpit", so when I lean too far that my head would hit a surface in reality, so I feel the cockpit border, fox max realism :D maybe I will build something from wood xD ) 3. better to have a chair with a low/short back rest, other it'll be in the way when turning your head+shoulders 180° to look if aircraft is chasing you (shoulder will press onto chair rest), so a low chair is prefered, otherwise you must sit straight up (i do that now xD ) and not lean in the chair... DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
D4n Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 procedure is easier now: 1. open windows start menu, 2. type "device manager", click on "device manager" 3. under "screens", disable "Mixed Reality Headset" (not uninstal!). Then DCS will start in normal screen mode. (don't forget, to play in VR again you must enable this again in Device Manager for WMR portal to detect your headset again!) btw works too when disabling "Dell Visor" directly in "Mixed Reality" menu. that's the easier way even! ;) DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
TomOnSteam Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 By any chance has anyone used more than one of these headsets? I can get my hands on a Dell Visor WMR headset for around $250AUD or a Samsung Odyssey for close to $600 AUD. As much as I'd like to get the boost in resolution, could anyone give me an indication whether it is worth such a big price difference? Or should I get the Dell now, and wait for another 12-18 months for an even better headset? (Oculus and Vive are out of the question as they are both close to $1000 AUD) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cockpit Spectator Mode
D4n Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 I don't know what the Odyssey sharp-area is, and not sure if it's important to you, but wait till next DCS patch, then ask me here if WMR is working in DCS multiplayer (as it still crashes for me in multiplayer). DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
dmwierz Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 By any chance has anyone used more than one of these headsets? I can get my hands on a Dell Visor WMR headset for around $250AUD or a Samsung Odyssey for close to $600 AUD. As much as I'd like to get the boost in resolution, could anyone give me an indication whether it is worth such a big price difference? Or should I get the Dell now, and wait for another 12-18 months for an even better headset? (Oculus and Vive are out of the question as they are both close to $1000 AUD) Tom, here are my thoughts on the Odyssey Vs other WMR HMD's: The Odyssey has a mechanical IPD adjustment slider on the headset. The others adjust in software only; The Odyssey has the best resolution available currently; The Odyssey allows for an IPD adjustment >67mm. The other WMR HMD's are limited to IPD<67mm only (my personal IPD is 69, so this is important); The Samsung has integral headphones; The Samsung has DUAL microphones (VS a single); The Odyssey has an on-device volume adjustment control. VERY convenient; The Odyssey uses Active-matrix OLED displays. Better colors and contrast. I was on the fence until Samsung reduced the price of the Odyssey to $399.99. That did it for me, and I haven't looked back since. i9-9900K @5.1Ghz w/ 32GB RAM, RTX2080 Super w/ 8G, Samsung Odyssey VR HMD, 1 TB SSD, VKB Gladiator MKII, TM TWCS throttle, Saitek Pro Yoke, Saitek Throttle Quadrant x2, CH Pro Pedals, Obutto Ozone
D4n Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 "Active-matrix OLED" sounds interesting... :P But I already bought the Dell Visor xD (once it works in DCS multiplayer I will judge if I sell it on eBay or not) DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
dmwierz Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 BTW, in my experience, the Odyssey absolutely has the same "sweet spot" challenges seen in other Fresnel lens HMD's. A minor adjustment up/down/fore/aft can make a huge difference in image quality...as can getting your IPD set correctly. i9-9900K @5.1Ghz w/ 32GB RAM, RTX2080 Super w/ 8G, Samsung Odyssey VR HMD, 1 TB SSD, VKB Gladiator MKII, TM TWCS throttle, Saitek Pro Yoke, Saitek Throttle Quadrant x2, CH Pro Pedals, Obutto Ozone
Sniper175 Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 Tom, here are my thoughts on the Odyssey Vs other WMR HMD's: The Odyssey has a mechanical IPD adjustment slider on the headset. The others adjust in software only; The Odyssey has the best resolution available currently; The Odyssey allows for an IPD adjustment >67mm. The other WMR HMD's are limited to IPD<67mm only (my personal IPD is 69, so this is important); The Samsung has integral headphones; The Samsung has DUAL microphones (VS a single); The Odyssey has an on-device volume adjustment control. VERY convenient; The Odyssey uses Active-matrix OLED displays. Better colors and contrast. I was on the fence until Samsung reduced the price of the Odyssey to $399.99. That did it for me, and I haven't looked back since. What pixel density do you run with the Odyssey if any? Have very similiar computer as you. I7-8700 @5GHZ, 32GB 3000MHZ RAM, 1080TI, Rift S, ODYSSEY +. SSD DRIVES, WIN10
dmwierz Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 What pixel density do you run with the Odyssey if any? Have very similiar computer as you. I run it at 1.2 in Steam VR and 1.2 within DCS. i9-9900K @5.1Ghz w/ 32GB RAM, RTX2080 Super w/ 8G, Samsung Odyssey VR HMD, 1 TB SSD, VKB Gladiator MKII, TM TWCS throttle, Saitek Pro Yoke, Saitek Throttle Quadrant x2, CH Pro Pedals, Obutto Ozone
D4n Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 YESS GUYS ! ! ! Multiplayer finally working flawless it seems! :D :D There was a Steam update on "WMR for SteamVR", that might've improved stability! :) Join us/me on DynamicDCS server for VR fun! ;) https://discord.gg/Ey2V4fT DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
D4n Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 Here you guys see an example of what it's like (don't ask me why the video shakes so terribly... It was super fine in VR) : DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
D4n Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 Important note, if you have multi-monitor, cover your other black monitors with a folded paper so the tracking cameras don't get irritated and lose track. Important. (white square is easiest for tracking runtime, compard to massive black object) DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
D4n Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 And here what a dogfight in WMR VR can look like (Mirage has black bar bug): https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3419633#post3419633 DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
D4n Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 Still sometimes issues with sideways tracking, I trust Microsoft/SteamVR to fix this soon though :) DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
TomOnSteam Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 Dell Visor is on it's way! Next weekend is going to be fun :-) (or super frustrating as I stuff around with windows updates lol) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cockpit Spectator Mode
D4n Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 YESSS guys!!! With the SteamVR "GDC 2018" build (Game developers conference) and since new DCS patch, WMR DCS Multiplayer is running way more stable for me!! DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
hannibal Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 hey daniel. thanks for the steam friends list add. where do you get the steamVR GDC build? and are you on windows insiders builds? find me on steam! username: Hannibal_A101A http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969447179
D4n Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 No, normal Win 10. In Steam, go to SteamVR properties, there you have the different versions. I still had issues with sidetracking, but that may have been due to not enough light in my room. Will try again sometime with room lamp on. DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
NineGzuz Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 Just wanted to ask if anyone is having problems where the SteamVR waiting room occasionally pops up for a split second during flight?
D4n Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 Yes, either memory leak or your RAM or VRAM is too small I think. I had it only very few times. Usually my game (multiplayer) crashes in WMR... DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
Yaga Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 Recently got an Odyssey to see if it performed better than the CV1. I'm running into a weird issue though. In DCS, and only in DCS, the left and right eyes are not being rendered at the same height. The right eye is further up than the left. Can't find any info on what might be causing this, but it has made it unusable. The headset works fine in WMR and SteamVR home environments.
NineGzuz Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 Yes, either memory leak or your RAM or VRAM is too small I think. I had it only very few times. Usually my game (multiplayer) crashes in WMR... Ah yes that is possible, I only have 8Gb RAM right now. I will chuck in another 8Gb and see how it goes. Thanks :-) (Although I suspect these issues will disappear if DCS get's native WMR support)
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