old Consistently Freezes or Crashes

[Bingo41]

Hi All

 

1) Yesterday, when I was updating my HOTAS profile, I had setup a mission with an A/C on the runway. I opened the “Adjust Controls” section to look up keypresses as I updated my profile. However, after a bit of time, I noticed that DCS would freeze up and I would have to perform a Control Alt Delete. This was very repeatable.

 

2) Today, when I launched DCS, I noticed a small update was executed…..I assume it is update 6, but is not yet mentioned on the DCS website? After the update, I launched DCS and flew a number of different A/C, and the sim would freeze while in flight, and the only way to get out was wait until the data recovery tool would request to send data back to the DCS development team, or do a CTL-ALT-DEL. I also noticed that if I left the A/C sitting on the runway long enough, it would also freeze. This happened in both 2D mode, or when flying VR. The sim is now basically un-flyable.

 

3) Up until yesterday, I had experienced anything like this?

 

EDIT - It was suggested that I update the title by moderator. After more thoughts about Update 5, which fixed the missing buildings in Las Vegas, I remember DCS working after update 5.

 

However, it was after the minor update 6, or whatever it was, as it appeared to be just a minor update, is when I consistently started to see 100% failure. In fact, if I start on the ground and do nothing, it will eventually lockup and crash.

 

As you look thru this thread, I have gone thru a "clean" and "repair" several times.

 

I did update my video driver from 388.59 to the latest 391.35, but to no avail.

 

I also fly P3D V4.1 with a ton of planes and complex scenery, including the PMDG aircraft in both VR and 2D, and it works great, no issues.

 

In all the years of flying DCS, I have never experienced an issue like this!

 

Bill Clark

Edited April 7, 2018 by Bingo41
Moderator Suggested I update Title

[Bingo41]

Hi,

 

I ran the dcs_updater.exe repair option and after a few brief minutes it crashed......so freezing and crashing is still an issue.

 

I was able to click ok and permit the sending of an automated message back to the development team.

 

Bill Clark

 

Bill Clak

[Bingo41]

Last Item,

 

I did the following recommended step:

 

Rename your dcs / dcs.openbeta folder in saved games ( keep it as a backup )

 

And it still freezes and crashes.

 

I will have await a response from DCS or a fix. I can no longer fly DCS.

 

Bill Clark

[BIGNEWY]

Hi

 

can you attach your dcs.log here the next time it happens, I have a guide below.

 

Also please try the crash advice below, basically a cleanup and repair and a fresh saved games folder to rule out any oddities in settings.

 

thanks

 

edit you posted while I was typing :)

[Bruce_D]

I have a similar crash after the last update. Impossible to play.

dcs.log-20180405-170814.zip

[BIGNEWY]

I have a similar crash after the last update. Impossible to play.

 

Thanks, not seen this one before

 

 

2018-04-05 17:08:10.929 INFO DCS: dbox failed Initialize -7

2018-04-05 17:08:12.865 ERROR SOUND: can't load wave: "effects\weapons\gsh301endin"

2018-04-05 17:08:14.732 INFO TACVIEW.EXPORT: Loading C++ flight data recorder from [C:\Users\Eduardo\Saved Games\DCS\Mods\tech\Tacview\bin\]

2018-04-05 17:08:14.732 INFO TACVIEW.EXPORT: Tacview 1.7.0 C++ flight data recorder successfully loaded

2018-04-05 17:08:14.784 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: ITerrainGraphicsImpl4::forceLoading(): pos=(-156720, 6001.91, 844137), radius=150000

2018-04-05 17:08:14.988 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Can't create texture array '!water.nm.lua'. Reason:

2018-04-05 17:08:15.002 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Can't load image '/textures/base.png'. Reason:

2018-04-05 17:08:15.003 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for /textures/base.png. Reason:

2018-04-05 17:08:15.043 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Can't load image '/textures/field_2_mask.tif.dds'. Reason:

2018-04-05 17:08:15.043 INFO EDCORE: try to write dump information

2018-04-05 17:08:15.045 INFO EDCORE: # -------------- 20180405-170814 --------------

2018-04-05 17:08:15.047 INFO EDCORE: C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edCore.dll

2018-04-05 17:08:15.048 INFO EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 1137C07B 00:00000000

2018-04-05 17:08:15.050 INFO EDCORE: 00000000 00000000 0000:00000000

2018-04-05 17:08:15.052 INFO EDCORE: 1137C07B 008FC3B0 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edCore.dll ?getHome@VFS@@YA?AV?$basic_string@D@ed@@XZ()+133B

2018-04-05 17:08:15.054 INFO EDCORE: 1137B6BA 008FC400 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edCore.dll ?getHome@VFS@@YA?AV?$basic_string@D@ed@@XZ()+97A

2018-04-05 17:08:15.056 INFO EDCORE: 1137A09A 008FC440 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edCore.dll VFS_copy()+18A

2018-04-05 17:08:15.059 INFO EDCORE: 113802D4 008FC4A0 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edCore.dll ?vfs_read_file@@YA_NPEBDAEAV?$Ptr@VSharedBuffer@ed@@UDefaultDeleter@2@@ed@@@Z()+D4

2018-04-05 17:08:15.060 INFO EDCORE: E0AC10D7 008FC500 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\dx11backend.dll ?interframeResourceSync@DX11Renderer@RenderAPI@@UEAAX_N@Z()+45827

2018-04-05 17:08:15.060 INFO EDCORE: E0AC1594 008FC5A0 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\dx11backend.dll ?interframeResourceSync@DX11Renderer@RenderAPI@@UEAAX_N@Z()+45CE4

2018-04-05 17:08:15.060 INFO EDCORE: E0AC387E 008FC620 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\dx11backend.dll ?interframeResourceSync@DX11Renderer@RenderAPI@@UEAAX_N@Z()+47FCE

2018-04-05 17:08:15.060 INFO EDCORE: E0A9954B 008FC780 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\dx11backend.dll ?interframeResourceSync@DX11Renderer@RenderAPI@@UEAAX_N@Z()+1DC9B

2018-04-05 17:08:15.061 INFO EDCORE: E0A760A7 008FC850 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\dx11backend.dll ?loadTexture@DX11Renderer@RenderAPI@@UEAA?AV?$Ptr@UITexture@RenderAPI@@UDeleter@12@@ed@@PEBD_NHW4TEXTURETYPE_ENUM@render@@0@Z()+E7

2018-04-05 17:08:15.061 INFO EDCORE: DF99DD83 008FC8C0 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edterrainGraphics41.dll

2018-04-05 17:08:15.061 INFO EDCORE: DFA14D95 008FC9F0 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edterrainGraphics41.dll createInstancerRenderable()+12335

2018-04-05 17:08:15.062 INFO EDCORE: E9AC6FA4 008FCA60 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\renderer.dll ??4BaseBinder@@QEAAAEAV0@$$QEAV0@@Z()+12E44

2018-04-05 17:08:15.062 INFO EDCORE: DFA0978E 008FCAF0 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edterrainGraphics41.dll createInstancerRenderable()+6D2E

2018-04-05 17:08:15.062 INFO EDCORE: DFA5C738 008FCC00 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edterrainGraphics41.dll ?clear@lMaterialParamsArrayGraphics@edtg41@@QEAAXXZ()+298

2018-04-05 17:08:15.062 INFO EDCORE: DF9D4618 008FCD10 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edterrainGraphics41.dll

2018-04-05 17:08:15.062 INFO EDCORE: DF9D3F6A 008FCEC0 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edterrainGraphics41.dll

2018-04-05 17:08:15.062 INFO EDCORE: DF9D3994 008FD070 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edterrainGraphics41.dll

2018-04-05 17:08:15.062 INFO EDCORE: DF9D2C92 008FD210 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edterrainGraphics41.dll

2018-04-05 17:08:15.063 INFO EDCORE: DF9D5677 008FD260 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edterrainGraphics41.dll

2018-04-05 17:08:15.063 INFO EDCORE: DF9D56C5 008FD2B0 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edterrainGraphics41.dll

2018-04-05 17:08:15.063 INFO EDCORE: DF9D56C5 008FD300 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edterrainGraphics41.dll

2018-04-05 17:08:15.063 INFO EDCORE: DF9D56C5 008FD350 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edterrainGraphics41.dll

2018-04-05 17:08:15.063 INFO EDCORE: DF9D56C5 008FD3A0 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edterrainGraphics41.dll

2018-04-05 17:08:15.063 INFO EDCORE: DF9D56C5 008FD3F0 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edterrainGraphics41.dll

2018-04-05 17:08:15.063 INFO EDCORE: DF9D56C5 008FD440 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edterrainGraphics41.dll

2018-04-05 17:08:15.063 INFO EDCORE: DF9D291C 008FDD00 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edterrainGraphics41.dll

2018-04-05 17:08:15.064 INFO EDCORE: DF9D18AC 008FDE80 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edterrainGraphics41.dll

2018-04-05 17:08:15.064 INFO EDCORE: DFA40803 008FEF00 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edterrainGraphics41.dll createInstancerRenderable()+3DDA3

2018-04-05 17:08:15.069 INFO EDCORE: E92E6474 008FF250 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\Visualizer.dll ?Preload@SceneManager_Implement@@UEAAXAEBV?$wPosition3@N@@W4vCameraType_e@@@Z()+1E4

2018-04-05 17:08:15.069 INFO EDCORE: A2BB2792 008FF4B0 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\DCS.exe

2018-04-05 17:08:15.069 INFO EDCORE: A2B9F678 008FF5D0 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\DCS.exe

2018-04-05 17:08:15.069 INFO EDCORE: 113BE3BA 008FF600 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edCore.dll ?sendOutputSymbol_@FSM@Common@@AEAAXI@Z()+4A

2018-04-05 17:08:15.069 INFO EDCORE: 113BE358 008FF640 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edCore.dll ?enterToState_@FSM@Common@@AEAAXI@Z()+C8

2018-04-05 17:08:15.075 INFO EDCORE: 113BE1A7 008FF670 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\edCore.dll ?onSymbol_@FSM@Common@@AEAAXI@Z()+1A7

2018-04-05 17:08:15.075 INFO EDCORE: A2BB1458 008FF6D0 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\DCS.exe

2018-04-05 17:08:15.075 INFO EDCORE: A281B78B 008FF700 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\DCS.exe

2018-04-05 17:08:15.075 INFO EDCORE: A281D33E 008FFE50 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\DCS.exe

2018-04-05 17:08:15.077 INFO EDCORE: A2D309E3 008FFE90 0000:00000000 C:\Games\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\DCS.exe

2018-04-05 17:08:15.078 INFO EDCORE: 1B591FE4 008FFEC0 0000:00000000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\KERNEL32.DLL BaseThreadInitThunk()+14

2018-04-05 17:08:15.078 INFO EDCORE: 1B8FEFC1 008FFF10 0000:00000000 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll RtlUserThreadStart()+21

2018-04-05 17:08:15.280 INFO EDCORE: Minidump created.

 

 

try updating your gpu driver it looks like a very old one, go for the latest one from nvidia

 

also follow my crash advice below.

 

thanks

[Bruce_D]

Hi Bignewy,

 

Tks for the reply.

 

My driver is the last one (391.35). Can you show me where did you see that my driver was not updated?

 

I followed the Cleanup and repair and the crash continues.

dcs.log-20180405-215124.zip

Edited April 5, 2018 by Bruce_D

[Bingo41]

Hi Bignewy,

 

I followed your instructions, changed the name of file DCS openbeta, did the clean and repair.

 

Of course it crashed again, but here is the attached log file.

 

Bill Clark

dcs.log-20180405-234612.zip

[Bingo41]

Hi,

 

I forgot to add the results of the Windows log file:

 

Log Name: Application

Source: Application Error

Date: 4/5/2018 4:47:34 PM

Event ID: 1000

Task Category: (100)

Level: Error

Keywords: Classic

User: N/A

Computer: Killer-PC

Description:

Faulting application name: DCS.exe, version: 2.5.0.15365, time stamp: 0x5ab14e02

Faulting module name: d3d11.dll, version: 10.0.16299.98, time stamp: 0xfa352589

Exception code: 0xc0000005

Fault offset: 0x0000000000175520

Faulting process id: 0x1428

Faulting application start time: 0x01d3cd37a983f070

Faulting application path: C:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\DCS.exe

Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll

Report Id: e94c44dd-a6bb-44ae-abb4-8e685da4bf03

Faulting package full name:

Faulting package-relative application ID:

Event Xml:

<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">

<System>

<Provider Name="Application Error" />

<EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID>

<Level>2</Level>

<Task>100</Task>

<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>

<TimeCreated SystemTime="2018-04-05T23:47:34.020501700Z" />

<EventRecordID>23966</EventRecordID>

<Channel>Application</Channel>

<Computer>Killer-PC</Computer>

<Security />

</System>

<EventData>

<Data>DCS.exe</Data>

<Data>2.5.0.15365</Data>

<Data>5ab14e02</Data>

<Data>d3d11.dll</Data>

<Data>10.0.16299.98</Data>

<Data>fa352589</Data>

<Data>c0000005</Data>

<Data>0000000000175520</Data>

<Data>1428</Data>

<Data>01d3cd37a983f070</Data>

<Data>C:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\DCS.exe</Data>

<Data>C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll</Data>

<Data>e94c44dd-a6bb-44ae-abb4-8e685da4bf03</Data>

<Data>

</Data>

<Data>

</Data>

</EventData>

</Event>

 

Bill Clark

[Flappie]

Bingo41, your log shows the "DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED" error. This means the problem comes from either your graphics card or its driver.

 

You should first try resetting your nVidia control panel:

 

 

 

If it doesn't change anything, try updating your nvidia drivers, then restart your computer.

 

If the game still crashes, we'll need to look at your graphics card frequencies, through GPU-Z, or MSI Afterburner.

Edited April 6, 2018 by Flappie

[Bingo41]

Flappie,

 

Resetting the "Manage 3D Settings" did not fix the issue.

 

I am currently running Nvidia 388.59 drivers on a Gigabyte 1080TI graphics card. The latest WHQL Nvidia driver is 391.35. However, sometimes the latest driver is not the best for a particular sim. What version do you recommend?

 

By the way, up until these latest updates 5 & 6, I have not had any issues with DCS.

 

Bill Clark

 

Bill

[Flappie]

By the way, up until these latest updates 5 & 6, I have not had any issues with DCS.

Oh, I thought you had just arrived on DCS 2.5 with the stable version.

 

From what I've seen here lately, several owners of 1080Ti encounter this "DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED" error. It seems as if DCS is making this high end card suffer a lot, when good "old" GTX 970/980 barely sigh.

 

One of those players, sh0rty, solved his issue by changing his card settings. See here : https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3443572&postcount=6

 

MainSail solved the same issue by underclocking his 1080Ti : https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3437786&postcount=159

 

I wonder why you didn't encounter this error in previous 2.5 updates, but you should give these solutions a go.

Edited April 6, 2018 by Flappie

[Bingo41]

Flappie,

 

Prior to these latest updates I had a very stable DCS system flying both in VR and 2D. Something definitely changed.

 

I checked the first link and made sure I did these two items:

-Power Management --> Prefer Maximum Performance

-Virtual Reality Pre-Rendered Frames --> 1

 

I did update to the latest WHQL driver 391.35, and the problem still exists.

 

What really bothers me is that I had a solid working system before......and now it crashes 100% of the time in a few minutes?

 

Bill Clark

[Bingo41]

Flappie,

 

Prior to these latest updates I had a very stable DCS system flying both in VR and 2D. Something definitely changed.

 

I checked the first link and made sure I did these two items:

-Power Management --> Prefer Maximum Performance

-Virtual Reality Pre-Rendered Frames --> 1

 

I did update to the latest WHQL driver 391.35, and the problem still exists.

 

What really bothers me is that I had a solid working system before......and now it crashes 100% of the time in a few minutes?

 

Bill Clark

[Flappie]

What really bothers me is that I had a solid working system before......and now it crashes 100% of the time in a few minutes?

Well, I think you should add "since 2.5 update 5" on the thread's title. Edit your first post, cilck on "Go Advanced", and you'll be able to change the title.

[Bingo41]

EDIT - It was suggested that I update the title by moderator. After more thoughts about Update 5, which fixed the missing buildings in Las Vegas, I remember DCS working after update 5.

 

However, it was after the minor update 6, or whatever it was, as it appeared to be just a minor update, is when I consistently started to see 100% failure. In fact, if I start on the ground and do nothing, it will eventually lockup and crash.

 

As you look thru this thread, I have gone thru a "clean" and "repair" several times.

 

I did update my video driver from 388.59 to the latest 391.35, but to no avail.

 

I also fly P3D V4.1 with a ton of planes and complex scenery, including the PMDG aircraft in both VR and 2D, and it works great, no issues.

 

In all the years of flying DCS, I have never experienced an issue like this!

 

Bill Clark

[Flappie]

To my knowledge, there was no "update 6".

The last thing that got updated was the... updater. Hence the "minor" update you saw.

 

As seen in the log file you sent us, the game crashed as it was creating the shaders. Could you upload your most recent dcs.log file? I'd like to see if the crash still happens during the same process.

Edited April 7, 2018 by Flappie

[simus]

since we got version 2.5 DCS the sim crash every time and my computer restart evrery time. and is only with this sim even with low setting. when i try other sim like X-Plane 11 with all the setting in full blast high no probleme and even the buggy flight sim word doesn't do that.

 

my rig is

MSI GT72VR 6RE Dominator pro

I7 6700HQ CPU @ 2.60 ghz

32 gig of ram

geforce GTX 1070

dcs.rar

[Flappie]

@simus: I can't open your .rar file. It seems broken.

[BIGNEWY]

since we got version 2.5 DCS the sim crash every time and my computer restart evrery time. and is only with this sim even with low setting. when i try other sim like X-Plane 11 with all the setting in full blast high no probleme and even the buggy flight sim word doesn't do that.

 

my rig is

MSI GT72VR 6RE Dominator pro

I7 6700HQ CPU @ 2.60 ghz

32 gig of ram

geforce GTX 1070

 

thanks for the log

 

2018-04-07 18:18:08.573 INFO Lua: Lua CPU usage: metric: average mission loading: 2.2220 %

2018-04-07 18:19:02.699 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for /textures/uh1_tail_burn.bmp.dds. Reason: Not enough storage is available to complete this operation.

 

2018-04-07 18:19:02.830 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for /textures/kraz6322_zola.dds. Reason: Not enough storage is available to complete this operation.

 

ensure you have enough room on the drive for shader compilation

 

what drive are you using and how much space do you have left on it?

Edited April 7, 2018 by BIGNEWY

[Bingo41]

Flappie,

 

Ok, now I understand it was not a standard update.

 

Do you want me to perform another "fresh" repair operation after deleting the DCS.Openbeta file in the Saved Games section so I can get you what you want?

 

Thanks for Your Help,

Bill Clark

[Flappie]

Seeing you're not the only one with this problem, I'm pretty sure your game files are OK. No need to repair again, as you already did that several times.

 

The one file I need is "C:\Users\***\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Logs\dcs.log".

[Bingo41]

Flappie,

 

Do you want it as an attached file or pasted into the "Quick Reply" window?

 

Bill Clark

[Bingo41]

Flappie,

 

Here is the attached log file.............I had to convert to a .txt format for it to be accepted.

 

If this doesn't give you what you need I will do a clean "repair."

 

Bill Clark

dcs.txt

[Flappie]

Thank you. This time it's a little different, and that could be of help: right before the "DXGI..." error strikes (the one that means the game is unable to find your graphics card), your USB peripherals are re-discovered, as if they were gone for a few seconds.

 

I think you should seriously consider trying another power supply unit. Your PSU could be either damaged or not powerful enough.

 

 

EDIT: Don't bother with finding another PSU right now. We need to confirm my diagnostic. Download HWMonitor, unzip it, and launch it. Then launch DCS and wait for the crash. Once you're back on the desktop, look at the tensions min/max, and send us a screenshot.

Edited April 7, 2018 by Flappie