DCS F-5E radar

[Clorydric]

Is there any lua wizard here ? I'm trying to make a mod to improve our radar screen, but it's not that convincing atm.

 

Small demo : https://imgur.com/a/S7DMK7f (sorry, can't capture video with my computer if I don't want the GPU to die... :music_whistling:)

Mod : https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/fr/files/3305860/

[Mecrutio]

Dude.... That video was freakin AWESOME!!!

 

I couldn't understand what they were saying... but the camera shots they got during the dog fight was amazing! And the 2 that took off and went straight up... I gotta try it.

 

I wish I had something to add to the radar issue but I just started on this bird. I can't seem to find anything with it even knowing that a target is under 20nm.

 

:pilotfly:

[r4y30n]

On 8/5/2019 at 9:00 AM, Koty said:

Well - DCS is made for fully computerized radar systems ala F-15C, MiG-29 etc.

The semi-computerized stuff from MiG-21 or 19, or the plain uncomputerized CRT output on the Tiger... most of it would have to be done from scratch to be actually realistic.

And here we are in 2024 with at least one dev who made it happen (Heatblur F-4E):

So it's definitely possible to make the F-5E radar VERY convincing compared to what we have now, ED would just have to commit to the (major) task of re-writing it.  That said, HB have expressed interest in licensing their Anvil platform to others so theoretically all that pulse radar code from the F-4E could be ported to the F-5E.  Still no small task since you'd likely have to convert the entire plane to Anvil but it is at least possible.

(Sorry to necro but this seemed the most relevant thread)

[PawlaczGMD]

22 minutes ago, r4y30n said:

And here we are in 2024 with at least one dev who made it happen (Heatblur F-4E):

So it's definitely possible to make the F-5E radar VERY convincing compared to what we have now, ED would just have to commit to the (major) task of re-writing it.  That said, HB have expressed interest in licensing their Anvil platform to others so theoretically all that pulse radar code from the F-4E could be ported to the F-5E.  Still no small task since you'd likely have to convert the entire plane to Anvil but it is at least possible.

(Sorry to necro but this seemed the most relevant thread)

Yes please, let's use the HB tech to upgrade the F-5 radar. It looks really fake and unrealistic. Although I have to concede that since the Tiger has no radar-guided missiles, this is not critical, and the current radar is fine for practical purposes, if not accurate/nice. 

[GREG90]

В 14.08.2024 в 22:04, r4y30n сказал:

И вот мы в 2024 году, и по крайней мере один разработчик добился этого (Heatblur F-4E):

Таким образом, определенно возможно сделать радар F-5E ОЧЕНЬ убедительным по сравнению с тем, что у нас есть сейчас, ED просто придется взять на себя (основную) задачу по его переписыванию. Тем не менее, HB выразила заинтересованность в лицензировании своей платформы Anvil другим, поэтому теоретически весь код импульсного радара с F-4E может быть перенесен на F-5E. Все еще непростая задача, поскольку вам, вероятно, придется переделать весь самолет в Anvil, но это, по крайней мере, возможно.

(Прошу прощения у necro, но эта тема показалась мне наиболее актуальной)

Я думаю когда выйдет новый F-5e, то радар там поправят.

[r4y30n]

Fingers crossed!

[GREG90]

21 час назад, r4y30n сказал:

Fingers crossed!

К сожалению я ошибался. Радар не изменился от слова совсем.

[Kev2go]

Guess this needs to be wishlisted since no radar improvements with the "remaster"

[Bucic]

I think I've seen a post by an ED official that further radar improvements are planned as a followup to the main Upgrade release.

[WolfLaw]

At the moment, the F-5E Tiger II radar is rendered with a solid "bar" moving back and forth across the scope, with a solid gradient behind it. Clutter is represented as solid lines of uniform size. I can't find anything to support this is what it looks like, and it does not look realistic to me based on my (limited) knowledge of 70's radar technology. I'm lead to believe there's no solid line: Rather, there's the illusion of one based on the presence of appearing returns moving back and forth. Also, the returns should be appearing like dots or static. I'm overall pleased with the F-5E glow-up, but simultaneously disappointed the radar visuals still look the way they do, especially when compared to how well 70's radar technology is represented in the F-4E module by Heatblur. Attached are two .gifs of the AN/APnullQ-159 scope in action.

[Northstar98]

Yep.

Beamscanner reported this one over 6 years ago:

[WolfLaw]

I'm standing on the shoulders of giants, but it's time to raise the topic again. Since then we've had actually good 70's radars represented in the F-4 and AJS37, and they only highlight how bad the F-5E one looks.

[MadKreator]

The Remaster would have been a prime opportunity to add that icing on the cake. Even if it was only available in the remaster.

[twistking]

For me lack of radar improvements are the biggest disappointment with the F5 remaster. Even if ED won't do a complete rewrite, they should at least update the visuals to better match the reference...

[nairb121]

I agree, the -34 has many images of how the radar should look, and at least updating the graphics, if not the inner workings, would go a long way towards improving its authenticity. As it stands now, the radar is far behind DCS's modeling standards.

[Fitzcarraldo]

Could you position the antenna in a way so that the ground returns could be used for navigation or ground avoidance in low visibility conditions?