how to turn off the auto pilot on the DDI

[fitness88]

Once the A/P is turned on and is visible on the DDI how is the A/P turned off? It seems to stay lit up on the DDI for the rest of the flight?

 

 

Thank you.

[bolek]

Use the paddle switch on the stick or the 'A' key.

[key_stroked]

Autopilot is controlled from the UFC, not the DDI.

[Eldur]

I even get the "AUTO PILOT" message when never even using it. Can't speak for today's update yet, but before that, the paddle switch wouldn't make it disappear.

[bolek]

When autopilot is on but no specific mode is selected, DDI displays "A/P". Paddle switch turns autopilot off and "A/P" disappears.

 

I have never seen "AUTO PILOT" message, this could be something else (like a warning that autopilot is inoperative?).

[fitness88]

"A" will disable any and all four of the available autopilots sub-menu should any be selected.

[Zee Pet]

The times I've gotten "AUTO PILOT" on DDI was as I near simultaneously press and hold paddle and pull significant G. Subsequent presses of the paddle do not remove it and i believe the AP is still functional with the message. Will pay more attention next time.

[Wizard1393]

I sometimes get the AUTO PILOT advisory when pressing the paddle to disengage it.

But if you first turn off all modes currently on, and then use the paddle, it won't throw the advisory.

[GMachado]

The times I've gotten "AUTO PILOT" on DDI was as I near simultaneously press and hold paddle and pull significant G. Subsequent presses of the paddle do not remove it and i believe the AP is still functional with the message. Will pay more attention next time.

 

 

That is what I get as well. And I am not talking about those crazy 40G that I saw on Facebook, but something between 8 and 10G for a very short time.

[SonofEil]

The times I've gotten "AUTO PILOT" on DDI was as I near simultaneously press and hold paddle and pull significant G. Subsequent presses of the paddle do not remove it and i believe the AP is still functional with the message. Will pay more attention next time.

 

Yep, the autopilot disengage paddle is also the G-Limit Override paddle. When holding the paddle while pulling hard g’s an “AUTOPILOT” warning appears on the lower left DDI. Autopilot still functions normally, but the “AUTOPILOT” warning won’t clear from the DDI.

[Zee Pet]

Tried again last night- behavior is as Piston85 says.

[SonofEil]

The warning appears regardless of pulling Gs, just by pressing the paddle.

 

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On my rig, no, not consistently. I can do a short paddle pull to disengage A/P in level flight and not receive the AUTOPILOT warning. I consistently get the AUTOPILOT warning in the left DDI when using the paddle as a G-limit override. Warning will not clear from DDI though autopilot is functioning normally. I'm literally in an attitude hold orbit and testing as I write this.

Edited June 7, 2018 by SonofEil

[fitness88]

What is the tiny green + above the A/P button on the UFC. What's the On/Off button on the UFC supposed to do...disable the A/P when pressed?

Edited June 8, 2018 by fitness88

[TonyG]

What is the tiny green + above the A/P button on the UFC. What's the On/Off button on the UFC supposed to do...disable the A/P when pressed?

 

 

NATOPS pg 183.

2.13.5.10 Function Selector Pushbuttons. The function selector pushbuttons for the equipment are mutually exclusive. When a particular function selector pushbutton is pressed, the control options for that equipment are displayed in the option windows (and in case of the autopilot switch, the autopilot is engaged). Then the ON-OFF button is used to turn the selected equipment (except autopilot) on or off.

^^bolding added by me for emphasis.

 

NATOPS pg 133

WARNING

 

Decolonizing any autopilot mode does not disengage the basic autopilot control stick steering (CSS) function. Activating the autopilot/nosewheel steering disengage lever (paddle switch) on the control stick with any autopilot mode selected disengages all autopilot modes. Failure to disen- gage autopilot modes with the paddle switch prior to landing (other than mode 1) results in CSS remaining engaged and may cause extreme aircraft pitch/PIO oscillations.

[fitness88]

NATOPS pg 183. ^^bolding added by me for emphasis.

 

NATOPS pg 133

 

 

 

Thanks for this info...I will want to read this carefully after a night's sleep.

Do you have a link for the NATOPS manual?

What does I/P do?

[Chief Instructor]

The AUTO PILOT warning on the DDi should extinguish itself after 10 seconds or with a subsequent actuation of the paddle switch. Neither appear to be happening in the EA right now.

[bradleyjs]

Thanks for this info...I will want to read this carefully after a night's sleep.

Do you have a link for the NATOPS manual?

What does I/P do?

 

Try this: https://info.publicintelligence.net/F18-ABCD-000.pdf

:smilewink:

[tifafan]

Auto pilot warning on DDI when disengage it.

 

I disengaged it with paddle switch.But occasionally I get auto pilot warning on DDI.Why does it happen?And how can i clear it?

Edited June 8, 2018 by tifafan

[Mud]

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=211693

[fitness88]

Try this: https://info.publicintelligence.net/F18-ABCD-000.pdf

:smilewink:

 

 

Thank you this sure is informative...gotta cherry pick what applies to our sim though.

[fitness88]

NATOPS pg 183. ^^bolding added by me for emphasis.

 

NATOPS pg 133

 

 

 

WARNING

 

Decolonizing any autopilot mode does not disengage the basic autopilot control stick steering (CSS) function. Activating the autopilot/nosewheel steering disengage lever (paddle switch) on the control stick with any autopilot mode selected disengages all autopilot modes. Failure to disen- gage autopilot modes with the paddle switch prior to landing (other than mode 1) results in CSS remaining engaged and may cause extreme aircraft pitch/PIO oscillations.

 

 

Is this saying that disabling the autopilot modes by pressing the Option Select Pushbuttons to remove the colon isn't enough because it's not properly disengaging the A/P?

 

 

edit:yes

Edited June 8, 2018 by fitness88

[bolek]

Is this saying that disabling the autopilot modes by pressing the Option Select Pushbuttons to remove the colon isn't enough because it's not properly disengaging the A/P?

 

Right, you have to use the paddle switch to completely disengage it.

 

It is not clear to me though, what does the autopilot really do when it is still engaged but none of the modes are selected.

[fitness88]

Right, you have to use the paddle switch to completely disengage it.

 

It is not clear to me though, what does the autopilot really do when it is still engaged but none of the modes are selected.

 

 

 

I just tested and NATOPS explanation is exactly what happens. You must press "A" to disable A/P if not the stick is sticky. Disabling A/P sub-modes is not enough. You can pull hard and it will force the A/P to stop. I think the DDI should show when this happens.

[sthompson]

Right, you have to use the paddle switch to completely disengage it.

 

It is not clear to me though, what does the autopilot really do when it is still engaged but none of the modes are selected.

The NATOPS manual seems to answer this question. If the A/P is engaged but none of the UFC options are selected then the A/P operates in CSS mode. That is Control Stick Steering. The A/P maintains pitch and roll (if roll is more than 5 degrees) or pitch and magnetic heading (if roll is less than 5 degrees), but you can change these with gentle inputs on the control stick, and can fine tune using the trim hat. More aggressive movements of the control stick will disengage the A/P, which explains why I sometimes get a violent pitch response when pulling hard in a turn!