Viggen Brakes and NWS change

[bones1014]

Since the last update the brakes for the Viggen seem to be very very strong. Even with a curve it seems that as soon as I apply any amount of braking they are fully applied. The NWS sticks to the left a bit. I sometimes have to shake the pedals to get the steering to stay centered. I did check my calibration.

[Caput_58]

I'm seeing this too, though it had been a long time since I flew the Viggen, so I'm not sure when it changed. I'm afraid to use the brakes at all on rollout since it ends in a spinout half the time. Seems way too unstable, especially for a tricycle gear. Also, every spinout leads to popped tires. You can do a repair, but because the aircraft it sitting lower, the new tires start slightly below the runway, and slightly stuck. It makes for a tricky takeoff run.

[Pizzasalladland]

I feel the same! It has happened in the patch before this weeks or the one before that.

I dont use rudder pedals (yet), so the change with going from 0 to 100% brake effect with a click of a button is very much noticable, with black brake skid marks whenever wheelbrake's applied above 50 km/h or around that.

 

 

When it comes to the NWS i havn't noticed too big of a difference, but you are probably right about that.

[Devrim]

I haven't flied Viggen very very long time, so I thought breaks were already like this. Yes they're too strong but adding curve and changing saturation have worked for me.

[jeffdude]

I agree. The lightest touch brings on a very strong break action. I am using left and right differential and if I don't get it perfect, I end up flying off path quickly.

[JG-1_Vogel]

For what it's worth my limited experience I've found of late if I tap the breaks on my pedals I get long black tyre marks all down the runway as I come to a halt. Perhaps some tweaking is required here!

[Knock-Knock]

Yea the brakes went super touchy. I had to set the axis as a slider and then add a curve to it. If I didnt set it as slider, they would be even more touchy with a curve?

 

The nose wheel steering has always been very sensitive, nothing changed there imo. And you shouldnt use it on the runway anyway. Just make sure you are properly lined up, then SPÅK keeps it straight, and if, then use the toe brakes to steer - but with adjustment obviously :)

 

Edit: And I have curve on the rudder too - think its 30, so long since I set it. But with all that, I have no problems keeping the Viggen under control during taxi, take off or landing. But I agree though, its very sensitive in all ground handling areas.

Edited October 12, 2018 by Knock-Knock

[Quip]

I theorize it's got to do with ED changing the ground model (now that they realized it was bonkers, and couldn't get the FA18 working properly on carriers), so HB had to add a fix for the ground handling model And a fix is a fix. So hopefully they can get on top of this.

 

Meanwhile, only brake using your reversor (no wheel brakes) until you're really slow.

[Quip]

Yea the brakes went super touchy. I had to set the axis as a slider and then add a curve to it. If I didnt set it as slider, they would be even more touchy with a curve?

 

The nose wheel steering has always been very sensitive, nothing changed there imo. And you shouldnt use it on the runway anyway. Just make sure you are properly lined up, then SPÅK keeps it straight, and if, then use the toe brakes to steer - but with adjustment obviously :)

 

Edit: And I have curve on the rudder too - think its 30, so long since I set it. But with all that, I have no problems keeping the Viggen under control during taxi, take off or landing. But I agree though, its very sensitive in all ground handling areas.

 

You don't use the NWS when taking off or landing, you use the toe brakes. (But at the moment this isn't working)

[Knock-Knock]

You don't use the NWS when taking off or landing, you use the toe brakes. (But at the moment this isn't working)

 

I thought thats what I wrote?

Anyway, it does work, just need to adjust the toe brake axis, as I wrote.

Attached the axis settings I use, and with that I can use toe brakes during taxi and take off / landing. Plenty of force still to stop it, and hold it during full mill spool up. Could maybe go even lower in the Y-Saturation.

[Quip]

I thought thats what I wrote?

 

I missread

[FanOfALF]

The brakes in the Viggen are powerful, but in DCS they are overpowered. Today I could go to stage 3 afterburner, and Viggen was steady as a rock, not moving a bit. :) Don't think that is suppose to be that way.

[Holton181]

Today I could go to stage 3 afterburner, and Viggen was steady as a rock, not moving a bit. :) Don't think that is suppose to be that way.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but this doesn't necessarily have to indicate too efficient brakes, but rather too high friction between tires and the ground are used.

Edited October 14, 2018 by Holton181