Manuel_108 Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 They probably won't release any new videos in January, it would damp down the hype.
Strikeeagle345 Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 They probably won't release any new videos in January, it would damp down the hype. yeah, agreed. March 20th is looking more and more like the day. Strike USLANTCOM.com i7-9700K OC 5GHz| MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON | 32GB DDR4 3200 | GTX 3090 | Samsung SSD | HP Reverb G2 | VIRPIL Alpha | VIRPIL Blackhawk | HOTAS Warthog
shagrat Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 It's actually illegal in germany to do pre-orders with vague release dates, https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-07-16-vague-release-dates-for-pre-orders-banned-in-germany But Heatblur is not based in germany so I dont think its valid for them.21st March, or earlier when they manage isn't vague. ...and yes, German law, is only working for a company with a subsidiary office in Germany. EU law applies in the EU, though. Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
Flamin_Squirrel Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 True, but it took a little time between HB saying 'Winter' and '21st March'. It would have saved a bit of confusion if they'd just given the date to start with.
shagrat Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 True, but it took a little time between HB saying 'Winter' and '21st March'. It would have saved a bit of confusion if they'd just given the date to start with.And they offered to refund anyone who is not happy with the pre-order condition...? So I really would see how an argument would look like "They offered me my money back, but I want them to get sued and sentenced to give me my money back, because...” :dunno: Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
Voodoo_One Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 So I preordered the F-14 finally in steam. It said 15th Februar while purchasing? In my mind it was also meant to be something around end of march... 1000 flights, 1000 crashes - perfect record
Flamin_Squirrel Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 And they offered to refund anyone who is not happy with the pre-order condition...? So I really would see how an argument would look like "They offered me my money back, but I want them to get sued and sentenced to give me my money back, because...” :dunno: Oh no don't get me wrong, I'm not unhappy with HB and nor do I think HB are being unreasonable. My only view was that agreeing that 'Winter' is a bit vague and they should have gone with a date to start with. That is all.
QuiGon Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 True, but it took a little time between HB saying 'Winter' and '21st March'. It would have saved a bit of confusion if they'd just given the date to start with. Winter ends on 21st March, so this was clear from the beginning. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Strikeeagle345 Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 So I preordered the F-14 finally in steam. It said 15th Februar while purchasing? In my mind it was also meant to be something around end of march... Steam forced them to pick a date, so they just entered one that was within their date range. Strike USLANTCOM.com i7-9700K OC 5GHz| MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON | 32GB DDR4 3200 | GTX 3090 | Samsung SSD | HP Reverb G2 | VIRPIL Alpha | VIRPIL Blackhawk | HOTAS Warthog
spiddx Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 I wonder why they wouldn‘t pick March 21 then, just to avoid further confusion. Specs: i9 10900K @ 5.1 GHz, EVGA GTX 1080Ti, MSI Z490 MEG Godlike, 32GB DDR4 @ 3600, Win 10, Samsung S34E790C, Vive, TIR5, 10cm extended Warthog on WarBRD, Crosswinds
Voodoo_One Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 I wonder why they wouldn‘t pick March 21 then, just to avoid further confusion. I asked that myself too. It clearly said in bold orange text "Available 1xth February 2019" Don't remember the exact date (But I think it said 15th), I was just "Let's make it quick" and just pressed every button just so its bought and I can't take my money back :lol: 1000 flights, 1000 crashes - perfect record
Flamin_Squirrel Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Winter ends on 21st March, so this was clear from the beginning. There are two dates for the end of winter, depending on which one you want to go by. Like I said it doesn't really bother me, but they weren't as clear as they could have been. That is all.
shagrat Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 There are two dates for the end of winter, depending on which one you want to go by. In the calendar, no, there is only one. But I agree, it would have been a wise move to give 21st March 2019 as a date,with a we hope to manage earlier as heads up. :) Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
SonofEil Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 There are two dates for the end of winter... What?! No, there is one date that is subject to minor variation year to year. This year winter ends and spring begins on March 20 at precisely 21:58 UTC, also known as earth’s Vernal Equinox. i7 7700K @5.0, 1080Ti, 32GB DDR4, HMD Odyssey, TM WH, Crosswind Rudder...
Flamin_Squirrel Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) There are two dates: astronomical and meteorological. This is what I found when I looked for the answer and had no idea which was the correct one. Maybe that makes me an idiot, but as I've said several times already, a date is far better as it removes any ambiguity. edit:// I was not the only one unsure of this either, IIRC. Edited January 14, 2019 by Flamin_Squirrel
SonofEil Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) Well I learned something. It looks like you’re technically correct, which is the best kind of correct of course. Though from what I’ve now read the meteorological seasons are almost exclusively a statistical tool used for consistency in record keeping by a single profession. Even being peripherally associated with meteorology via professional aviation I’d never heard of their use. In regards to the F-14 release I believe HB has stated, possibly in this very thread, that they regard end of winter as March 20th. Edited January 14, 2019 by SonofEil i7 7700K @5.0, 1080Ti, 32GB DDR4, HMD Odyssey, TM WH, Crosswind Rudder...
Flamin_Squirrel Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 ...It looks like you’re technically correct, which is the best kind of correct of course.... Haha! I wish I could say I was being pedantic for the sake of it, but I honestly had no idea which one was 'correct' when I first looked it up. :book:
Victory205 Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 I hope that orbital mechanics are next. Fly Pretty, anyone can Fly Safe.
shagrat Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Well I learned something. It looks like you’re technically correct, which is the best kind of correct of course. Though from what I’ve now read the meteorological seasons are almost exclusively a statistical tool used for consistency in record keeping by a single profession. Even being peripherally associated with meteorology via professional aviation I’d never heard of their use. In regards to the F-14 release I believe HB has stated, possibly in this very thread, that they regard end of winter as March 20th.Do you use a meteorological calendar? Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
Bad Idea Hat Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Do you use a meteorological calendar? I'm still on Byzantine Time.
Jarhead0331 Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 In regards to the F-14 release I believe HB has stated, possibly in this very thread, that they regard end of winter as March 20th. They have acknowledged this so many times, it is hard to believe that anyone following the issue of a release date could still be debating, or have any question concerning the issue.
Strikeeagle345 Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 They have acknowledged this so many times, it is hard to believe that anyone following the issue of a release date could still be debating, or have any question concerning the issue. Blows my mind.:doh: Strike USLANTCOM.com i7-9700K OC 5GHz| MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON | 32GB DDR4 3200 | GTX 3090 | Samsung SSD | HP Reverb G2 | VIRPIL Alpha | VIRPIL Blackhawk | HOTAS Warthog
Eldur Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) I wonder why they wouldn‘t pick March 21 then, just to avoid further confusion. Simply because March 21 is already the second day of Spring and they'd get amassive shitstorm from like 3 people In the calendar, no, there is only one. That, however, still depends on the calendar used... I'm still on Byzantine Time. Like this one Wasn't literally everything a week later in Russia? Edited January 14, 2019 by Eldur
Strikeeagle345 Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Simply because March 21 is already the second day of Spring and they'd get amassive shitstorm from like 3 people first day* Also, the 20th is a Wednesday and will line up with update day. Strike USLANTCOM.com i7-9700K OC 5GHz| MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON | 32GB DDR4 3200 | GTX 3090 | Samsung SSD | HP Reverb G2 | VIRPIL Alpha | VIRPIL Blackhawk | HOTAS Warthog
shagrat Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Simply because March 21 is already the second day of Spring and they'd get amassive shitstorm from like 3 people That, however, still depends on the calendar used... Like this one Wasn't literally everything a week later in Russia? A meant a calendar that is used by humanity to align things like businesses, military operations, science research... the normal everyday calendar you would relate to, when looking for a date. Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
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