DmitriKozlowsky Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 When it is in active mode, does it actually jam radars that locked on own AV-8B, or not?
JaBoG32_Herby Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 We did a test yesterday using an F/A-18 as the radar platform and the Pod didn’t seem to make any difference regarding the Harriers visibility on his radar screen. I presume, functionality is not yet implemented. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Schmidtfire Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 Testing the pod against F/A-18 is not a good idea since ECM is not simulated in that aircraft yet.
Harlikwin Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 Beta vs Beta... not the best test. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
JaBoG32_Herby Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 Thank you two Gentlemen for your remarks. Would you mind then to share your test results in order to provide some inside to answer the original question? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Mars Exulte Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 Neither radar nor ecm are extensively 'simulated' in DCS. Ecm does not ''jam'' anything, it reduces the range at which you can be targeted. Whether the pod works in the Harrier or not I don't know, but it is not likely to be any different from the other ecm units ingame. 1 Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2
Floydii Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 Checking it against the F15 to see if it functions (albeit in the same way as other jammers ingame) would be the best option as the radar clearly shows jamming.
DmitriKozlowsky Posted January 28, 2019 Author Posted January 28, 2019 My question is regarding West Vs. East. Does ALQ-164 in DCS help in evading Russian and Chinese SAM in DCS. Three core systems S300, Buk, and HQ-16 which is Chinese variant of Buk.
QuiGon Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 Neither radar nor ecm are extensively 'simulated' in DCS. Ecm does not ''jam'' anything, it reduces the range at which you can be targeted. Whether the pod works in the Harrier or not I don't know, but it is not likely to be any different from the other ecm units ingame. ECM does deny other player radar equipped player controlled aircraft (e.g. F-15, M2000, MiG-21) range information as well as IFF response. That is for DECM in DCS in general. I do not know if the DECM pod for the Harrier is functional already. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Floydii Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 To clarify my earlier point, the jammer does function and reduces the range that other radars can establish a lock (DCS noise jamming effectively). It will allow an ECM fitted AV8B to get closer to Surface-to-air systems and fighters before being locked or fired on. How close depends on the system and likely it's skill level.
DowntownSIX Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 It will allow an ECM fitted AV8B to get closer to Surface-to-air systems and fighters before being locked or fired on. How close depends on the system and likely it's skill level. This has been my (anecdotal) experience. There's so little difference I don't bother 99.99% of the time. Devils Canyon i7 4790K @ 4.9GHz |16gb DDR3 | MSI GeForce GTX 1080Ti | Samsung 860 EVO Thrustmaster Warthog | Virpil WarBRD | Virpil TM-50CM2 Grip | VKB-Sim T-Rudder Mk.IV | Acer X34A (21:9) | Oculus Rift S A-10C | AJS-37 | AV-8B | C-101 | F/A-18C | F-14A/B | F-5E | KA-50 | L-39 | M-2000C | SA342 | Spitfire LF Mk IX | UH-1H
Harlikwin Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) Easiest way is to test it with tacview. Setup an SA10/11 or whatever you want site. And I'd test it for early, vs mid, vs late era sites, i.e. sa2, sa6, sa10/11 Fly harrier without ecm into it, check at what range it engages. x3 Replay mission with ECM on, chaeck at what range it engages. x3 compare results. With other ECM systems in game (mainly FC3) they basically reduce the range / increase the time you can be fired on by some 10-25% or something like that, so it doesn't make you sam-proof to any great degree. Though it would be great if a dev could actually answer this question for us. Edited September 3, 2019 by Harlikwin New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
exhausted Posted January 18, 2021 Posted January 18, 2021 Did we ever get updated info on efficacy of the ECM pod?
baboeska Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 Imo it works very well. Have heard of cool things like extra time for missile swarms, sam missiles exploding when it's turned from receive to transmit, I think it's a life saver. The additional burn through time can make a world of difference when using the Harrier in the SEAD role.
Vakarian Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 Watch this and decide for yourself if the DECM pod is effective or just dead weight
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