[NO BUG] G meter is off by .2 Gs

[Top Jockey]

True that! - as a FE I would have had a mental breakdown if I had stressed over every analogue needle that wasn't perfectly aligned! We had 20 needles just on a single 1' x 1' overhead panel. :crazy:

Same system gauge on each engine even indicated different values - you just got out the screwdriver, loosened the retaining ring and rotated the gauge so all the needles were more or less aligned - quik glance = all gd.

 

You must learn to embrace the nuances of analogue gauges, just like the other characteristics of the Tomcat.:thumbup:

 

Exactly.

 

Although from the obvious point - that people are expected to know the least of the module they are about to buy... it seems that it isn't so.

 

That's why I say that if the F-4 Phantom II ever comes out; many youth costumers, completely used to the "all digital, FBW, everything automatic", will come here completely dumbfounded with MANY of the aircraft's particular details... after they bought it.

[CoBlue]

Have you ever considered that the G meter rests a little high in the real aircraft? Often VSI's are off a little. You simply compensate.

I stand corrected, it's very much tilted downwards, from the default view.

 

It's a G Meter on a fighter, not a precision gravitational accelerometer. You're not trying to measure the density of the earth's core. It's not even a primary flight instrument. Analog gauges aren't perfect. If they were nobody would have invented lying digital displays that fudge numbers.

It better be when you're G-limited & don't want to rip your plane apart ;).

[Super Grover]

For those who can't live without the accelerometer, I'll add, that the location of this gauge will be different in the F-14A. You'll find it where the radio repeater displays are in the F-14B - so much higher than now.

 

The right side of the instrument panel was rearranged with the introduction of the ALR-67 (AFC 794 upgrade). The ALR-67 took the place of the radio frequency repeaters; the repeaters moved up and pushed the accelerometer to the place you know well from our cockpit.

 

I bet the pilots appreciated the modern RWR more than they were disappointed with the new location of the accelerometer .

[FSKRipper]

I stand corrected, it's very much tilted downwards, from the default view.

 

 

It better be when you're G-limited & don't want to rip your plane apart ;).

 

I have serious doubts that

 

A. a pilot in a 9G turning fight is staring at his G-Meter

B. your plane will desintegrate at 7,7 instead of 7,5G

[Victory205]

For those who can't live without the accelerometer, I'll add, that the location of this gauge will be different in the F-14A. You'll find it where the radio repeater displays are in the F-14B - so much higher than now.

 

The right side of the instrument panel was rearranged with the introduction of the ALR-67 (AFC 794 upgrade). The ALR-67 took the place of the radio frequency repeaters; the repeaters moved up and pushed the accelerometer to the place you know well from our cockpit.

 

I bet the pilots appreciated the modern RWR more than they were disappointed with the new location of the accelerometer .

 

I don't know, having the G meter read within .000534 is pretty important. I want to know my exact G when I get vaporized by an SA6...

 

By the way, have you guys all noticed that the clock is also off by a half minute, but only when it is between :10 to :20 or :40 to :50 minutes after the hours?

 

Not that any of you freaking Millennials know how to tell time from an analog clock anyway. ;)

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/45451/no-joke-british-schools-removing-analog-clocks-paul-bois

[Strikeeagle345]

I don't know, having the G meter read within .000534 is pretty important. I want to know my exact G when I get vaporized by an SA6...

 

By the way, have you guys all noticed that the clock is also off by a half minute, but only when it is between :10 to :20 or :40 to :50 minutes after the hours?

 

Not that any of you freaking Millennials know how to tell time from an analog clock anyway. ;)

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/45451/no-joke-british-schools-removing-analog-clocks-paul-bois

 

:megalol::megalol::megalol:

[RustBelt]

I stand corrected, it's very much tilted downwards, from the default view.

 

 

It better be when you're G-limited & don't want to rip your plane apart ;).

 

Nope, still doesn't make it a Primary Instrument. Learn how to read the buffet if you want to keep your wings on. Head Up, Eyes Outside applies to both VFR flying AND ACM.

[RustBelt]

I don't know, having the G meter read within .000534 is pretty important. I want to know my exact G when I get vaporized by an SA6...

 

By the way, have you guys all noticed that the clock is also off by a half minute, but only when it is between :10 to :20 or :40 to :50 minutes after the hours?

 

Not that any of you freaking Millennials know how to tell time from an analog clock anyway. ;)

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/45451/no-joke-british-schools-removing-analog-clocks-paul-bois

 

Don't teach kids how to read an analog clock, don't act shocked when they don't know how to read it. Basic principle of learning.

[CoBlue]

Nope, still doesn't make it a Primary Instrument. Learn how to read the buffet if you want to keep your wings on.

You go & "feel the seat of your pants" at supersonic speeds while starting maneuvering. I'II be glancing at my G-meter to be on the safe side.

Why do you think they put a G-meter in there??

In the Mig-21 & AJS37 the G-meter is one of your primary instruments if you want to keep the air-frame intact. No reason for a high-performer like F-14 to be any different.

Edited April 4, 2019 by CoBlue

[FSKRipper]

So an ex F-14 pilot tells you it really really doesn't matter and the G-Meter is not the most important Instrument for flying this plane.

 

You have a different opinion.

 

Fair enough, but no bug as you were already told but only a question of the view perspective. I think we can stop this right here? :music_whistling:

[CoBlue]

So an ex F-14 pilot tells you it really really doesn't matter and the G-Meter is not the most important Instrument for flying this plane.

You have a different opinion.

Fair enough, but no bug as you were already told but only a question of the view perspective. I think we can stop this right here? :music_whistling:

RustBelt is ex F-14? I know Victory205 is, but he hasn't really chimed in on this specific subject (G-limited at supersonic flight).

[Victory205]

Don't teach kids how to read an analog clock, don't act shocked when they don't know how to read it. Basic principle of learning.

 

Parents should be teaching them.

[erniedaoage]

I learned to fly virtual airplanes with dawn patrol back in the days, which was a ww1 sim. Since then i only need like a couple of readouts from the plane like altitude, speed, direction heading and fuel. I don't need much more, for everybody who complains about the lack of seat of pants feel, get a realtus or jetseat. You could fly with the keyboard and be much more immersed than a guy without such a device and a fully build simpit.

[RustBelt]

RustBelt is ex F-14? I know Victory205 is, but he hasn't really chimed in on this specific subject (G-limited at supersonic flight).

 

Victory Literally was the first person to respond to your first post on page 3.

 

I'm not F-14, but being a flight instructor, knowing that parallax is a thing when not looking straight at an instrument, this is a FEATURE, not a bug. And also knowing an aircraft instrument or really ANY instrument has inherent error and doesn't always read zero at zero is something Theory people always have to be un-taught in the field.

 

ACTUAL pilots are saying 0.2 G is within the instruments error tolerances and is NOT a bug, that's just how airplanes be.:pilotfly:

[CoBlue]

Victory Literally was the first person to respond to your first post on page 3.

 

I'm not F-14, but being a flight instructor, knowing that parallax is a thing when not looking straight at an instrument, this is a FEATURE, not a bug. And also knowing an aircraft instrument or really ANY instrument has inherent error and doesn't always read zero at zero is something Theory people always have to be un-taught in the field.

 

ACTUAL pilots are saying 0.2 G is within the instruments error tolerances and is NOT a bug, that's just how airplanes be.

Dude WTH! why are you changing the subject? I already responded to that & said I stand corrected https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3869695&postcount=27

 

 

Look 6 posts above this one https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3871154&postcount=34 this is what we were discussing the last last time i quoted you :doh:.

Parents should be teaching them.

Can you clarify https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3871154&postcount=34 & share your experience? Was G-meter one of your primary flight instruments, when G-limited at supersonic speeds, or not?

[Deano87]

Can you clarify https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3871154&postcount=34 & share your experience? Was G-meter one of your primary flight instruments, when G-limited at supersonic speeds, or not?

 

No... you’d use your butt, if you do it every day you can tell how much G you’re pulling without looking at the gauge.

 

For us we can’t do that but you can get use to what kind of nose rate and stick position results in what G at what speed.