Prophet Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/s-300-list.htm Now I assume this might not all be correct. But from what I gather, the S-300 is designed as a multi-tier defense system. With both short range and long range missiles. We have the 300PS in lockon, yet our missile in the encyclopedia says 45km range. Which seems to suggest we only have the lowest end S-300. But the AGM-84E SLAM has a range of 93km, well outside this range. Not that it makes a huge difference, sense its damn hard to kill anyways. Also of note, in the new S-400 system, it seems the 9M96 will be an active missile.
VMFA117_Poko Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 S-400 Triumph is developed from S-300 PMU-3. This upgraded version will defend (or even protect already) Moscow. S-400 has the ability to destroy stealth aircraft, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles with an effective range of up to 2,200 miles and a speed of up to 3 miles per second, or 10,800 miles per hour. So it's more like response for US missile shield project to be build in Czech Republic and Poland - it's not only upgraded S-300. It's a whole new SAM system. source
GGTharos Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 S-400 Triumph is developed from S-300 PMU-3. This upgraded version will defend (or even protect already) Moscow. S-400 has the ability to destroy stealth aircraft, About as much ability to do that as any other SAM ... cruise missiles and ballistic missiles with an effective range of up to 2,200 miles and a speed of up to 3 miles per second, or 10,800 miles per hour. Careful with these quotes: These are engagement ranges, the missiles are destroyed fairly close to the site itself! So it's more like response for US missile shield project to be build in Czech Republic and Poland - it's not only upgraded S-300. It's a whole new SAM system. source Yep, it's just another escalation! It's basically the answer to THAAD/MEADS [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
VMFA117_Poko Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Careful with these quotes: These are engagement ranges, the missiles are destroyed fairly close to the site itself!Know that. Those facts are very idealistic.
TorwaK Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 S-400 Triumph is developed from S-300 PMU-3. This upgraded version will defend (or even protect already) Moscow. S-400 has the ability to destroy stealth aircraft, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles with an effective range of up to 2,200 miles and a speed of up to 3 miles per second, or 10,800 miles per hour. So it's more like response for US missile shield project to be build in Czech Republic and Poland - it's not only upgraded S-300. It's a whole new SAM system. source The thing still S-400 has many issues about radar system so Almaz-Antey delayed the release date. Btw yes S-400 radar ability to find out stealth aircrafts but still it can't define them. Many countries chosen S-400 high altitude defense system instead of Patriot PAC-3 missile system because of S-400 is %50 cheaper than Patriot PAC-3 even S-400's missiles have longer range than PAC-3 system. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel Core i7-6700K, @5GHz | Asus Maximus Hero VIII | 2 x eVGA GTX 970 SLI | Kingston Predator 16GB DDR4-3000Mhz | 2 x Samsung 850 PRO 240GB RAID-0 | AOC G2460PG G-SYNC LCD | OCULUS RIFT CV1 VR | THRUSTMASTER HOTAS WARTHOG | CH PRO PEDALS
Pilotasso Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 That is true and also consider politics, russia is much more liberal selling their stuff. .
Wdigman Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 3 miles per second? Does the S-400 have heat shielding? 761.2 mph is Mach 1 at sea level, 10,800 MPH is like Mach 10-11. I believe the space shuttle re enters at Mach 20 so how does the S400 not melt or burn up? The SR-71 would cruise near 2000 mph and had to overcome many issues with heat. Sure both technologies are from the 70s and earlier but materials still burn how does the S400 not burn up in flight or is this some made up number. Of course that could be the speed when the missle reaches low earth orbit.
Force_Feedback Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 That is true and also consider politics, russia is much more liberal selling their stuff. Political rant removed by mod. Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
159th_Viper Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 3 miles per second? Does the S-400 have heat shielding? 761.2 mph is Mach 1 at sea level, 10,800 MPH is like Mach 10-11. I believe the space shuttle re enters at Mach 20 so how does the S400 not melt or burn up? The SR-71 would cruise near 2000 mph and had to overcome many issues with heat. Are those speeds not referring to the Projectiles that the S-400 Missiles are capable of intercepting as opposed to the actual speed of the S-400 Missiles themselves? Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
britgliderpilot Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 3 miles per second? Does the S-400 have heat shielding? 761.2 mph is Mach 1 at sea level, 10,800 MPH is like Mach 10-11. I believe the space shuttle re enters at Mach 20 so how does the S400 not melt or burn up? The SR-71 would cruise near 2000 mph and had to overcome many issues with heat. Sure both technologies are from the 70s and earlier but materials still burn how does the S400 not burn up in flight or is this some made up number. Of course that could be the speed when the missle reaches low earth orbit. I think you misread - the quote as posted says that the S400 has the ability to engage TARGETS travelling at that speed, not that the SAMs themselves travel at that speed. It's a theoretical thing, I think. Much like the latest missile destroyers are supposed to be capable of destroying a Mach 3 tennis ball - well I know Federer serves hard, but really . . . http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
EvilBivol-1 Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 According to official reports, in a test firing of the S-400 in mid-June, the system successfully destroyed two targets (I'm assuming separately) - one traveling at 2800 m/sec (no other details) and the other at an altitude of 56 km (no other details). Video of the first production S-400 complex can be seen here, although I think the launches are just edits of S-300. - EB [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Nothing is easy. Everything takes much longer. The Parable of Jane's A-10 Forum Rules
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