Hentai Paisen Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 Both of these have been removed from Wags’ post talking about planned weapon systems. Are they out despite the fact that the hornet will get them and the only thing required for the F-16 to utilize them is a software update? You’re a month late for April fools day ED.
mvsgas Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 Cool great news. Even more accurate it will seem. I can't wait to try this module. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Hentai Paisen Posted May 19, 2019 Author Posted May 19, 2019 Cool great news. Even more accurate it will seem. I can't wait to try this module. What is wrong with you?
mvsgas Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 Many things, but I don't get the problem. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
ED Team Wags Posted May 19, 2019 ED Team Posted May 19, 2019 Upon further research, neither would have been accurate for an F-16CM, USAF/ANG, in 2007. Thanks Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544
mvsgas Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 Thanks you for the update. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Squid_DK Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 Cool, I like to keep it realistic. http://www.ipms.dk i7 9700K, Asus Z390 Prime A, Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4, GeForce RTX 2080 Ti STRIX ROG, Fractal Design Define R6, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, MFG Crosswind, Oculus Rift S. 32 GB 3200 MHz RAM
naizarak Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 how is strict realism an argument when, by ED's own admission, certain features are intentionally omitted or distorted anyways? if aircraft #5235-z block 47X tape 5.2 predates an armament's introduction but would otherwise be compatible with a minor avionics update, i don't think it would be crazy to make that stretch for the benefit of your players
ED Team Wags Posted May 19, 2019 ED Team Posted May 19, 2019 how is strict realism an argument when, by ED's own admission, certain features are intentionally omitted or distorted anyways? if aircraft #5235-z block 47X tape 5.2 predates an armament's introduction but would otherwise be compatible with a minor avionics update, i don't think it would be crazy to make that stretch for the benefit of your players We will make our products as real as possible when it does not involve using information that has no place in an entertainment product. Correct payloads is far from that. Thanks Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544
Hentai Paisen Posted May 19, 2019 Author Posted May 19, 2019 Upon further research, neither would have been accurate for an F-16CM, USAF/ANG, in 2007. Thanks So why not consider your F-16CM a 2008 model instead? It seems a bit ridiculous to omit two highly anticipated weapon systems from your module because your target date is six months before a software update. Why not include them to give customers more options? Really struggling to see why I should buy the F-16 when I already own the F-18, especially after what seems to be a string of anti-consumer decisions and posts from ED over the past several days. Why not err on the side of more content and options for players?
riboyster Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 how is strict realism an argument when, by ED's own admission, certain features are intentionally omitted or distorted anyways? if aircraft #5235-z block 47X tape 5.2 predates an armament's introduction but would otherwise be compatible with a minor avionics update, i don't think it would be crazy to make that stretch for the benefit of your players I think at this point you can trust ED to get shit done accurately. Keep in mind the government is watching. ED is not going to release classified information and get shut down and jailed. Common sense, man. -SnakeShit [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Peace through Superior Firepower EVERYTHING YOU'LL EVER NEED FOR LOMAC: http://flankertraining.com/ironhand/news.html
GGTharos Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 They might not have access to the manuals that show how these things are implemented. They work off of what they're given/can find in a way that is very legal. So why not consider your F-16CM a 2008 model instead? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
mikkebos Posted May 19, 2019 Posted May 19, 2019 why I should buy the F-16 when I already own the F-18, especially after what seems to be a string of anti-consumer decisions and posts from ED over the past several days. That's the point, JASSM was one of these features which could help me decide to get F16. Now, without these, it is only plane with new user interface, new tpod and HTS. Compared to hornet features, its loosing quite hard and it's not only my opinion, but also people from my group. ED said that cant share new carrier features because of $$, so i don't understand why they resign from JASSM, if this feature could help people decide to pay ED for the viper.
amalahama Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) Man, no JASSM is disappointing, I was really looking forward to it. I noticed no GBU-32, either. Edited May 20, 2019 by amalahama
Wizard_03 Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 If its not realistic for the aircrafts time period, by all means keep them out of the sim. It’s unfortunate, but I’d rather have an accurate representation of the F-16 then a fantasy one. Thanks for the update! DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer:
mvsgas Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 Man, no JASSM is disappointing, I was really looking to it. I noticed no GBU-32, either. GBU-32 is based on the MK-83 1000lbs class weapons. Not normally carried by any USAF aircraft AFAIK. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
=Panther= Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 GBU-32 is based on the MK-83 1000lbs class weapons. Not normally carried by any USAF aircraft AFAIK. In 2008, the only airframe that carried it (besides the boat people) was the F-22A. Twitch Channel [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Z390 Aorus Xtreme, i9 9900k, G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB, 1080ti 11GB, Obutto R3Volution, Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog, TPR, Cougar MFDs, FSSB R3L, JetSeat, Oculus Rift S, Buddy-Fox A-10C UFC, F/A-18C UFC, Tek Creations F-16 ICP
mvsgas Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 Learn something every day...You call them "the boat people"....LOL To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Wizard_03 Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 In 2008, the only airframe that carried it (besides the boat people) was the F-22A. Learn something every day...You call them "the boat people"....LOL Careful you guys, don’t break a nose gear. ;) DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer:
mvsgas Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 Oh men we got SEAman on us...EEEEuuH! :D:smartass: To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
=Panther= Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 Need a little cross service rivalry going. Twitch Channel [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Z390 Aorus Xtreme, i9 9900k, G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB, 1080ti 11GB, Obutto R3Volution, Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog, TPR, Cougar MFDs, FSSB R3L, JetSeat, Oculus Rift S, Buddy-Fox A-10C UFC, F/A-18C UFC, Tek Creations F-16 ICP
Dr.SquirrelBoy12 Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 That's the point, JASSM was one of these features which could help me decide to get F16. Now, without these, it is only plane with new user interface, new tpod and HTS. Compared to hornet features, its loosing quite hard and it's not only my opinion, but also people from my group. ED said that cant share new carrier features because of $$, so i don't understand why they resign from JASSM, if this feature could help people decide to pay ED for the viper. Pretty much where I stand, my most anticipated module just became one I no longer have any intention of purchasing. The continuous anti-consumer behavior doesnt help either. I was very hyped for this module and it was going to be a day 1 pre-order for me but in the last few days my drive to play DCS has fallen to zero... Modules: FC3, A-10C, M2000C, MiG-21bis, F-86F, AV-8B NA, F/A-18C, F-14A/B, F-16C, F-15E, F-4E, A-29, Eurofighter Typhoon, A-6E, MiG-23MLA, Nevada, Persian Gulf, South Atlantic, Syria, Afghanistan Specs: Intel i7 2600K, Nvidea GTX 980, 16GB RAM, NVMe SSD, Saitek X-55, TrackIR 5, Samsung Odyssey VR
TacoGrease Posted May 20, 2019 Posted May 20, 2019 This is really disappointing news 2080Ti FTW3 Ultra - G.Skill RJ 32GB (16x2) DDR4 3200 - Ryzen 2700X 4.2Ghz OC - Corsair H100i Pro - Samsung 970 EVO M.2 2TB - TMW HOTAS w Delta Sim - F/A-18C grip - 10cm Sahaj - TrackIR 5 Pro - Rift CV1 - MFG CWind - BuddyFox UFC - DSD RK II - Cougar MFDs w/ LCDs - Foxx Mounts - VPC MongoosT-50CM base - Maps: NTTR, Persian Gulf, Normandy - Modules: FC3, F-14A/B, F/A-18C, AV-8B, A-10C, F-16C, F-86, KA-50, P-51D, WWII assets, and [insert campaign name] Dreaming of the F-15E / F-14D / Rhino
ED Team NineLine Posted May 20, 2019 ED Team Posted May 20, 2019 Why not err on the side of more content and options for players? We make study sims, and are striving for the most accurate representation of the model we can get the most information on, and that is public legal information. If you want guessing and Frankenstein monster Vipers, you will have to look elsewhere. We are making the DCS: F-16CM Block 50, and whatever should come with it used by USAF and ANG, circa 2007. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
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