some1 Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) An 8 way hat is useless, I wouldn't call them functionally useful 4 buttons if you have VR or trackir. So yeah, still, it's much less usefull than the F16/A10 stick. Gesendet von meinem SM-G975F mit Tapatalk The Hornet stick is less useful than Warthog for mapping F16/A10 hotas, that's obvious. But for any other aircraft in DCS it's just as good, or even slightly better, because it trades one hat for more buttons and a second 5way hat, which better matches stick layout in those aircraft. Personally I hoped for a full Hornet hotas with throttle. Only a stick and for that price, I'm not interested. Edited June 3, 2019 by some1 Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
33-DFTC Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 [...]Personally I hoped for a full Hornet hotas with throttle. Only a stick and for that price, I'm not interested. It might come, Thrustmaster release a new HOTAS every ten years or so. In a previous interview they said something was coming along the Hornet stick. There are only two types of aircraft, fighters and targets. - Major Doyle "Wahoo" Nicholson, USMC
Buckeye Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 Prior TM press releases/marketing materials have indicated their cycle for a new full HOTAS system is 2020. Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
Mnemonic Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 Preorder not available anymore, same as price is not visible either.
Bullant Posted June 5, 2019 Posted June 5, 2019 Personally I hoped for a full Hornet hotas with throttle. Only a stick and for that price, I'm not interested. That's why I'm going with the WINWING solution :) Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan
TacoGrease Posted June 5, 2019 Posted June 5, 2019 Not to be an ass, but why the faith in an untested product/brand? It's hard to imagine beating a VPC base/Thrustmaster F-18 stick combination. Am I missing something? That's why I'm going with the WINWING solution :) 2080Ti FTW3 Ultra - G.Skill RJ 32GB (16x2) DDR4 3200 - Ryzen 2700X 4.2Ghz OC - Corsair H100i Pro - Samsung 970 EVO M.2 2TB - TMW HOTAS w Delta Sim - F/A-18C grip - 10cm Sahaj - TrackIR 5 Pro - Rift CV1 - MFG CWind - BuddyFox UFC - DSD RK II - Cougar MFDs w/ LCDs - Foxx Mounts - VPC MongoosT-50CM base - Maps: NTTR, Persian Gulf, Normandy - Modules: FC3, F-14A/B, F/A-18C, AV-8B, A-10C, F-16C, F-86, KA-50, P-51D, WWII assets, and [insert campaign name] Dreaming of the F-15E / F-14D / Rhino
Bullant Posted June 5, 2019 Posted June 5, 2019 Not to be an ass, but why the faith in an untested product/brand? It's hard to imagine beating a VPC base/Thrustmaster F-18 stick combination. Am I missing something? I won't buy it until I see a review from a trusted reviewer or two. I'm building a full pit, I want a proper throttle with full travel and 100% accurate throttle/stick buttons/switches. Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan
Nightstorm Posted June 5, 2019 Posted June 5, 2019 Preorder not available anymore, same as price is not visible either. I'm wondering if Amazon.DE let the cat out of the bag or something. I noticed before on the pre-order it said June 10. Now it doesn't. It just says "We need a little more time to get you a shipping date blah blah" The pre-order still appears to be in place but no other detail available.
Icebeat Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 I am guessing they are going to make the presentation in the E3
TacoGrease Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 Gotcha, that makes more sense. Hard to imagine the stick being better than Virpil or VKB, but yeah, that throttle looks pretty sweet I won't buy it until I see a review from a trusted reviewer or two. I'm building a full pit, I want a proper throttle with full travel and 100% accurate throttle/stick buttons/switches. 2080Ti FTW3 Ultra - G.Skill RJ 32GB (16x2) DDR4 3200 - Ryzen 2700X 4.2Ghz OC - Corsair H100i Pro - Samsung 970 EVO M.2 2TB - TMW HOTAS w Delta Sim - F/A-18C grip - 10cm Sahaj - TrackIR 5 Pro - Rift CV1 - MFG CWind - BuddyFox UFC - DSD RK II - Cougar MFDs w/ LCDs - Foxx Mounts - VPC MongoosT-50CM base - Maps: NTTR, Persian Gulf, Normandy - Modules: FC3, F-14A/B, F/A-18C, AV-8B, A-10C, F-16C, F-86, KA-50, P-51D, WWII assets, and [insert campaign name] Dreaming of the F-15E / F-14D / Rhino
VirusAM Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 I am guessing they are going to make the presentation in the E3Fs expo R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 N/A Realsimulator FFSB MKII Ultra+F-16 grip+F/A-18 grip, VKB Stecs Max, VKB T-Rudder MKV, Razer Tartarus V2 Secrets Lab Tytan, Monstertech ChairMounts
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