3Dmigoto VR mod for DCS : Label masking, color enhancement, sharpen, FXAA, copy/paste of radio MSG,....

[kyodjiin]

11 hours ago, lefuneste01 said:

But can you try again and generate the track without other mods ?

 

I generated another one. Please have a try.

nttr_su25t.trk

[Ericcaff]

On 4/28/2023 at 8:50 AM, lefuneste01 said:

Hello, I tried the ST (steamVR) with the mod (using the same process than for OpenXR, that is launching injector) and it worked...

Hmmm, then I really don't understand why i have this problem, I use OpenXR. MT work good, ST totally not work. And in MT when i press in game menu Shift+F7 menu is in middle of the screen all ok, than run ST press same Shift+F7 Menu is on left side and everything what I try to change settings not work  
3Dmigoto folder in bin folder all like before, but not work.

Today try to set OpexXR settings on default, also nothing help, detected one more thing, in MT mod work, but now i can't save my settings if Im change it, I mean Open menu Shift+F7 change something then press Shift+F12 all settings go back like saved previously. Now I can change settings only manually editing d3dx_user file. ST totally not work

 I don't understands what happening I just update all softs: game, windows 11, OpenXR toolkit, GPU drivers. Did not change game setting what work before.

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d3dx_user.ini

 

Edited April 29, 2023 by Ericcaff

[lefuneste01]

On 4/28/2023 at 9:28 PM, Ericcaff said:

Hmmm, then I really don't understand why i have this problem, I use OpenXR. MT work good, ST totally not work. And in MT when i press in game menu Shift+F7 menu is in middle of the screen all ok, than run ST press same Shift+F7 Menu is on left side and everything what I try to change settings not work  
3Dmigoto folder in bin folder all like before, but not work.

Today try to set OpexXR settings on default, also nothing help, detected one more thing, in MT mod work, but now i can't save my settings if Im change it, I mean Open menu Shift+F7 change something then press Shift+F12 all settings go back like saved previously. Now I can change settings only manually editing d3dx_user file. ST totally not work

 I don't understands what happening I just update all softs: game, windows 11, OpenXR toolkit, GPU drivers. Did not change game setting what work before.

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Coule you try to set "lens effect" to "none" ?

[Ericcaff]

1 hour ago, lefuneste01 said:

Coule you try to set "lens effect" to "none" ?

Already try, nothing help, but im reinstall all mods, delete metashader folder, now in MT Mod fully work and i can save by Shift+F12, but on ST not work totally, just strange thing, when I turn plane very aggressively screen color saturation turning on on some time than plane just move forward and again all like with out mod.

[lefuneste01]

On 4/28/2023 at 6:56 PM, kyodjiin said:

I generated another one. Please have a track

This time I could read the track. With your DCS settings I have 30 fps (with reprojection disabled !) as soon as in cockpit, then 60 fps when in map, then 30 fps when in cockpit again.

If I set "turbo mode" in OpenXR toolkit then I went to 60 fps in cockpit.

With my settings I have 60 fps from the beginning to the end...I had a quick look and did not see any strange things, so it seems the overhead introduced by the mod is not pleasing OpenXR... So either you lower your options, or you use turbo mode, or you do not use the mod because there is nothing I can do !

[kyodjiin]

Thank you for the time spent on this. I’ll try both options lower or turbo and make my decision

[lefuneste01]

10 hours ago, kyodjiin said:

Thank you for the time spent on this. I’ll try both options lower or turbo and make my decision

I'll also push some question to the main dev of OpenXRtoolkit (mbucchia) regarding this weird behaviour.

[kraszus]

On 6/1/2019 at 8:29 AM, lefuneste01 said:

3DmigotoDCS_VR_x.y (x.y being the current version) used only without OpenXR mod
3DmigotoDCS_VR_x.y_openXR (x.y being the current version) used only with OpenXR mod and with Multi Threading version

So if using Open Composite (but not the openxr mod) and also running the multithreaded version, which would I use? The first? [EDIT] I also use OpenXR toolkit

Edited May 3, 2023 by kraszus

[Hammer1-1]

On 5/1/2023 at 12:19 PM, lefuneste01 said:

This time I could read the track. With your DCS settings I have 30 fps (with reprojection disabled !) as soon as in cockpit, then 60 fps when in map, then 30 fps when in cockpit again.

If I set "turbo mode" in OpenXR toolkit then I went to 60 fps in cockpit.

With my settings I have 60 fps from the beginning to the end...I had a quick look and did not see any strange things, so it seems the overhead introduced by the mod is not pleasing OpenXR... So either you lower your options, or you use turbo mode, or you do not use the mod because there is nothing I can do !

Hey, really quick...how do you set turbo mode in OpenXR?

[lefuneste01]

6 hours ago, Hammer1-1 said:

Hey, really quick...how do you set turbo mode in OpenXR?

You must use openXR toolkit : https://mbucchia.github.io/OpenXR-Toolkit/

When in game, press CTRL+F2 and go down to the option, activate it (CTR LF2+CTRL F1/F5 to move through menu )

8 hours ago, kraszus said:

So if using Open Composite (but not the openxr mod) and also running the multithreaded version, which would I use? The first? [EDIT] I also use OpenXR toolkit

 

As soon as you are not using steamVR you need to use the openXR version with the injector (3DMigoto Loader.exe).

[macemi]

@lefuneste01

I am using a G2 and I get really bad colorbanding when looking at the sea and the in dark conditions at default gamma 2.2. 

There was a dither mod in the Kegetys shader mod, that fixed that for me a long time ago, using a rift back then.

Before MT, I could fix it with the debanding shader in reshade. 

Would it be possible for you to implement a similar shader like in the other flight sim to reduce the banding?

 

Is this actually normal? I have tested with and without mods, three different nvidia drivers (1080 ti), 3 different windows installs, and dozens of DCS repairs fresh installations over the years. 

Attached is a two monitor screenshots looking at the sea at 2.2 gamma with the colorbanding visualized

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[lefuneste01]

5 hours ago, macemi said:

@lefuneste01

I am using a G2 and I get really bad colorbanding when looking at the sea and the in dark conditions at default gamma 2.2. 

There was a dither mod in the Kegetys shader mod, that fixed that for me a long time ago, using a rift back then.

Before MT, I could fix it with the debanding shader in reshade. 

Would it be possible for you to implement a similar shader like in the other flight sim to reduce the banding?

 

Is this actually normal? I have tested with and without mods, three different nvidia drivers (1080 ti), 3 different windows installs, and dozens of DCS repairs fresh installations over the years. 

Attached is a two monitor screenshots looking at the sea at 2.2 gamma with the colorbanding visualized

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I did some debanding for il2 GB cloud some time ago. It was fine because done only in cloud. the sea is a bit tricky in DCS, I need to find a shader that could work not sure it is possible. By the way I never noticed banding, I'm using a G2 also. Could you post a track ?

[macemi]

I hope it can be done because it looks very ugly, especially in vr. 

Do you think something is wrong with my system? Like I said, I have checked Drivers, Windows, DCS settings and installs multiple times now. 

Here the track file: 

color banding test track.trk

[lefuneste01]

7 hours ago, macemi said:

I hope it can be done because it looks very ugly, especially in vr. 

Do you think something is wrong with my system? Like I said, I have checked Drivers, Windows, DCS settings and installs multiple times now.

Thanks, I can ses the banding also, but as expected it may be not so easy to fix...

[macemi]

Thanks for confirmation, I thought I am the only one. Yes, I have checked the shader in migoto, and it seems like there is no simple "watershader". Kegetys fixed it a long time ago by adjusting the tonemap shader with dithering I think, maybe it can be done. 

[lefuneste01]

It seems I find a way to identitfy were water is drawn in picture...I will be able to try if debanding of IL2 GB is working also for the water in DCS...

Edited May 11, 2023 by lefuneste01

[macemi]

Nice find! I hope you can do it. The sky box is banding for me too, not so bad as the water, but still. Thanks for your dedication !:)

[lefuneste01]

I did something that seems to improve. Can you have a look ?

Just unzip the "deband.zip" content into shaderfixes directory. It will work only with MSAA0x. I still need to setup a menu option and make it work for MSAA2x and MSAA4x.

I did not see banding in sky during my flights and in your track...Can you post a track showing it also ?

deband.zip

Edited May 14, 2023 by lefuneste01

[macemi]

Sorry for the late response.

I have installed it like you said but, unfortunately, I do not see a major difference. I have checked 3 times that I was using the right 3dmigoto with your deband fix. I am using the OpenXR MT version, by the way.

Here is a screenshot of your fixed version with my track file, and second a screen of the sky at dawn (2.2 gamma). The banding in the sky is especially noticeable at low light conditions or with lower gamma. In 2D it doesn't seem too bad, but in VR I find it very irritating that there are circles moving across the screen.

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color banding test track sky.trk

[lefuneste01]

That's strange you did not see change for water, but it should work only when menu is off, due to the shader I put attached.

Anyway, I did the menu option and make it work for all MSAA. I'll have a look for sky using your track. It seems to be linked to haze, I just quickly checked for clear blue sky. 

[lefuneste01]

done for sky also. I need to tune a bit debanding parameters, even if reduced there is still banding in the last track.

[lefuneste01]

the mod seems broken again by the last update, at least for the MT

[SPAS79]

6 hours ago, lefuneste01 said:

the mod seems broken again by the last update, at least for the MT

Does not pass IC too, due to the included glass.hlsl file. 

[jeni1976]

Greetings! Will there be an update for the stable version of dcs world DCS 2.8.4.39731? Thanks a lot

[lefuneste01]

8 hours ago, SPAS79 said:

Does not pass IC too, due to the included glass.hlsl file. 

This is an option. You can skip install of this option, mod will be IC but you won't have glass reflection tuning. All other features will work.

4 minutes ago, jeni1976 said:

Greetings! Will there be an update for the stable version of dcs world DCS 2.8.4.39731? Thanks a lot

The mod should already work this the stable, as it was working with the previous beta.

Edited May 19, 2023 by lefuneste01