Bullant Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 30 units left ... once they are gone does the pre-order price go as well? How's that throttle video coming? ;) Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullant Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Looks like PayPal won’t charge my card until the item ships. Can anyone confirm if this is the case, or if it charges immediately? Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSqdn Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) WINWING F/A-18C HOTAS 2019.7.3 RELEASE I’m assuming the blank spots in this statement are because of Chinese characters. I guess I’ll know for sure when I check my account tomorrow. Edit: looking at this statement, “processes order” could mean anything. Winwing, can we get some clarification please? Thanks! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited July 11, 2019 by RogueSqdn DEFENSOR FORTIS Spoiler Systems: Falcon NW Talon: Ryzen 9 5950X @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3090 FE; Falcon NW Mach V: Core i7 3930K @3.2GHz, 32GB DDR3, GTX 1080 FE Cockpit: MonsterTech MTX F, 42" 4K TV, HP Reverb G2, Oculus Rift S, PointCTRL Controls: RS F16SGRH CE, RS F18CGRH, VPC T-50CM2, VFX, WarBRD (Grips); VPC T-50CM2, RS FSSB R3L (Bases); Winwing F/A-18C, VPC T-50CM3, VPC T-50CM, TM Warthog, Cougar (Throttles); VPC ACE2 (Rudders) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandingCow Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 I’m assuming the blank spots in this statement are because of Chinese characters. I guess I’ll know for sure when I check my account tomorrow. Edit: looking at this statement, “processes order” could mean anything. Winwing, can we get some clarification please? Thanks! [ATTACH]213570[/ATTACH] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Your order on the winwing website should change to something like "waiting for shipment". 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmacky Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) IN! Does anyone think the 20 degree swing of the joystick will be too much for extension use? The Virpil T50 is 16 degrees? Edited July 11, 2019 by Wmacky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansangb Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Dear all Very sorry the website begin auto backup several hours ago, and can not view. Now it's back. Very sorry for that, please enjoy yours, Thanks and best. Winwing, question for you. I did the pre-order but i thought the extensions would be available for the pre-order folks? I only saw the one SKU that could be ordered. Did I miss something or are the extensions available? thanks hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSqdn Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Your order on the winwing website should change to something like "waiting for shipment". It says “wait for delivery.” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk DEFENSOR FORTIS Spoiler Systems: Falcon NW Talon: Ryzen 9 5950X @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3090 FE; Falcon NW Mach V: Core i7 3930K @3.2GHz, 32GB DDR3, GTX 1080 FE Cockpit: MonsterTech MTX F, 42" 4K TV, HP Reverb G2, Oculus Rift S, PointCTRL Controls: RS F16SGRH CE, RS F18CGRH, VPC T-50CM2, VFX, WarBRD (Grips); VPC T-50CM2, RS FSSB R3L (Bases); Winwing F/A-18C, VPC T-50CM3, VPC T-50CM, TM Warthog, Cougar (Throttles); VPC ACE2 (Rudders) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandingCow Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 It says “wait for delivery.” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Cool, same here. You should be good. 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) Can anyone confirm if this is the case, or if it charges immediately? Dear Andrew and all ,some of your order will be processes by Paypal, and not arrive our side real-time. So it's not charges. Once it charges, the money will arrive our side ,and your will see "waiting for deliver" on our website. So no matter what situation you meet , please waiting for our good news. Best and thanks for all your support! Edited July 11, 2019 by WINWING Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 Winwing, question for you. I did the pre-order but i thought the extensions would be available for the pre-order folks? I only saw the one SKU that could be ordered. Did I miss something or are the extensions available? thanks Dear , Of course the extensions will be there, after all ,we have no reason to refuse your money :lol: Waiting for good news ! Thanks. Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightstorm Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Winwing, can you respond to the question on quantity remaining? I was planning to order on July 19. It says there are 19 sets remaining at this time. Is that accurate? Were the preorder quantities limited? Thank you, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansangb Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Dear , Of course the extensions will be there, after all ,we have no reason to refuse your money :lol: Waiting for good news ! Thanks. Wait, so I *can* order the joystick extensions now? I'm not talking about the desktop mounts. I'm talking about extension for the joystick grip to the base. Or do you mean it will be available in the future? Thanks hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullant Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Winwing, can you respond to the question on quantity remaining? I was planning to order on July 19. It says there are 19 sets remaining at this time. Is that accurate? Were the preorder quantities limited? Agreed, this is an important question (down to 16 now). If I am going to order, it can't be until after the 21st of July ... Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 Winwing, can you respond to the question on quantity remaining? I was planning to order on July 19. It says there are 19 sets remaining at this time. Is that accurate? Were the preorder quantities limited? Thank you, Dear sir, Yes it's a serious question. We are plan to review our work and update today or next Monday in our webstie about the supply quantity. By our plan, the pre-order is not a huge quantity, but could be add or reduce. After Pre-order, we will do a long time forecast on the sale data, to make sure always in stock and could be deliver next day. No hunger sale here!!! We are big factory with simulator produce, even the forecast is wrong ,we can change very soon. Best. Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 Wait, so I *can* order the joystick extensions now? I'm not talking about the desktop mounts. I'm talking about extension for the joystick grip to the base. Or do you mean it will be available in the future? Thanks Morning, The extensions and z axis kit will in stock soon ,must before your HOTAS deliver, so you can get them on the same time. The reason we not put it on is we release everything very carefully! Please find more info in our website joystick page announce . Thank you very much for your trust. Best. Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullant Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Can we have some more info (a video would be awesome) on how all the controls/buttons are seen by DCS? Are they all defined as HID buttons, so that we can just directly map them in DCS, or do we need extra software to do the mapping? Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battis Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 800 usd seems an ok price but…. Then you add shipping (130-200$) and taxes about 250$, the total price is waaaaay over 1000$. So, unless there is a better price for shipping or if I could have it sent to my hotel in Shanghai when I'm on a work trip, I'll have to pass this one. On top of that, I really don't need yet another joystick as I'm really happy with the ones I have. VKB, VPC. Just the throttle is what I'm looking for. i9-9900K 4,9Ghz, 2080ti, 32Gb, 1Gb m.2, Index, WinWing throttle, Baur BRD-N, Crosswind pedals, Orbwiever and tm mfd`s, all in a Hornet simpit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxer Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 800 usd seems an ok price but…. Then you add shipping (130-200$) and taxes about 250$, the total price is waaaaay over 1000$. So, unless there is a better price for shipping or if I could have it sent to my hotel in Shanghai when I'm on a work trip, I'll have to pass this one. On top of that, I really don't need yet another joystick as I'm really happy with the ones I have. VKB, VPC. Just the throttle is what I'm looking for. Yeah, you are correct: the sticker price of $800 ends up being c.$1,200 by the time it hits your front door after import and sales taxes. So it is considerably more expensive than grip, base, throttle, mount combos from Virpil and VKB. And way more expensive than Thrustmaster. If you are passing Shanghai, Hong Kong for somewhere like that then it makes sense to try to snag one of these sets on that trip as you could end up paying closer to $800. Everyone's perception of "value" differs, but what is less subjective and more objective is the extent to which the performance of the Wingwing kit differs from those other products. There looks to be a significantly different design, so I expect many people will be leaving it to the testers and early adopters for information describing the performance difference. (Myself, I am an early adopter). But undoubtedly this combo ends up in a higher price category than those other products after delivery and taxes. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSqdn Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 PayPal charged my card overnight, FYI. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk DEFENSOR FORTIS Spoiler Systems: Falcon NW Talon: Ryzen 9 5950X @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3090 FE; Falcon NW Mach V: Core i7 3930K @3.2GHz, 32GB DDR3, GTX 1080 FE Cockpit: MonsterTech MTX F, 42" 4K TV, HP Reverb G2, Oculus Rift S, PointCTRL Controls: RS F16SGRH CE, RS F18CGRH, VPC T-50CM2, VFX, WarBRD (Grips); VPC T-50CM2, RS FSSB R3L (Bases); Winwing F/A-18C, VPC T-50CM3, VPC T-50CM, TM Warthog, Cougar (Throttles); VPC ACE2 (Rudders) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullant Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 PayPal charged my card overnight, FYI. Thanks for the confirmation, that is important information to know. Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gekoiq Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Extension question. I have pre ordered, I have a question about the extension: will we be able to rotate the stick to the left for center stick applications (the real stick is rotated about ~15° to the left)? Also how long will the extensions be? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted July 13, 2019 Author Share Posted July 13, 2019 I have pre ordered, I have a question about the extension: will we be able to rotate the stick to the left for center stick applications (the real stick is rotated about ~15° to the left)? Also how long will the extensions be? Thanks! Dear, It's 2 different question from you. 1. About the 15 degree rotatable , between Grip and Base/extension/z kit, let's leave some original material to Jabbers and other reviewers :) 2.About the length of extensions is a big question for us , and the reason why not in stock. We still self-criticism about it. Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted July 13, 2019 Author Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) Can we have some more info (a video would be awesome) on how all the controls/buttons are seen by DCS? Are they all defined as HID buttons, so that we can just directly map them in DCS, or do we need extra software to do the mapping? Let's leave some surprise for reviewers, all release by us will lost fun. The reason why we release introduce of Super Libra is because so many pilot only want the Throttle system. And to provide our quality. Don't worry there will be 1/2/3/4...version :) , We never sell something not finish test and make customer to be the "lab mouse". Edited July 13, 2019 by WINWING Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted July 13, 2019 Author Share Posted July 13, 2019 800 usd seems an ok price but…. Then you add shipping (130-200$) and taxes about 250$, the total price is waaaaay over 1000$. So, unless there is a better price for shipping or if I could have it sent to my hotel in Shanghai when I'm on a work trip, I'll have to pass this one. On top of that, I really don't need yet another joystick as I'm really happy with the ones I have. VKB, VPC. Just the throttle is what I'm looking for. Yeah, you are correct: the sticker price of $800 ends up being c.$1,200 by the time it hits your front door after import and sales taxes. So it is considerably more expensive than grip, base, throttle, mount combos from Virpil and VKB. And way more expensive than Thrustmaster. If you are passing Shanghai, Hong Kong for somewhere like that then it makes sense to try to snag one of these sets on that trip as you could end up paying closer to $800. Everyone's perception of "value" differs, but what is less subjective and more objective is the extent to which the performance of the Wingwing kit differs from those other products. There looks to be a significantly different design, so I expect many people will be leaving it to the testers and early adopters for information describing the performance difference. (Myself, I am an early adopter). But undoubtedly this combo ends up in a higher price category than those other products after delivery and taxes. We used to think about more cheaper one, but must loss lot of performance and function.... Hard to decide. Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandingCow Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Yep, if you want quality you gotta pay. When something is cheaper you end up with (as an example) the gimball of a warthog joystick... or failed wires of X-55/X-56, etc. 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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