ebabil Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Hi there, I have following system * 2600K 4.3 ghz * 16 gb ddr3 ram * gtx1070 * 500 gb ssd * 1 tb hdd * a worthless case I am considiring * Ryzen 3600 * 16 gb DDR 4 ram * MSI B450 gaming plus main board * Phanteks p350x case * High power 650 w bronze from old system * gtx1070 * 500 gb ssd * 1 tb hdd What do you think? Can any ryzen users share opininons? does it worth upgrade? FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
Rudel_chw Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 The ryzen 3600 is 40% faster on single thread performance than your current processor, so yes, I believe it would be a worthwhile upgrade. Depending on the bios version of the motherboard, a Ryzen 3000 may not boot, so be sure to purchase the mb + processor + ram as a combo pack and to be pre-configured by the vendor .. the mb needs to have Bios version 7B86v18 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Wexler Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 I would recommend 32GB RAM. Look on second hand buy - choose the ones that have lifetime warranty from manufacturer. Ryzen 7 2700X | MSI Trio 1080Ti | MSI X470 Plus Motherboard | 32GB Kingston HyperX Predator 2933 DDR4 | M.2 XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro SSD | Virpil Mongoost-50 throttle | Thrustmaster Warthog Stick | MFG Crosswind | Rift S
Pilotasso Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) Yeah, good choice of motherboards to have the BIOS flash button. Just make sure the RAM kit is in the Qualified kits for that motherboard and that it can reach 3200Mhz stock (3600 optimal). See below and click "compatibility" and then select Matisse ridge: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-GAMING-PLUS.html#support-mem-19 Edited July 21, 2019 by Pilotasso .
ebabil Posted July 21, 2019 Author Posted July 21, 2019 Thanks for advises, how can I find the compatibility list? Can't every ddr4 ram work with it ? FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
Pilotasso Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 See my first post here to locate the list. You can avoid alot of headaches if you avoid buying a random kit. .
Svsmokey Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 I would consider replacing that power supply as well . How old is it ? 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2
BitMaster Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Good budget choice !!! Get 32GB right away from the QVL, that will save a LOT of headache down the road. +1 for a new PSU ( even if you buy it 4-8 weeks later when budget allows ) Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
ebabil Posted July 21, 2019 Author Posted July 21, 2019 My old psu is 11 years old Glacial Power 550w and now i am thinking of buying High Power 650w Bronze 80+ modular power as i mentioned in first post. Is this psu bad? I read very positive reviews about it https://www.teknobiyotik.com/donanim/psu-guc-kaynagi-power-supply/high-power-650w-80-bronze-element-smart-mavi-ledli-guc-kaynagi-hp-ep-650s.html#!prettyPhoto FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
BitMaster Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Bronze+ 80 is not what you want. Seasonic Prime 750w is much much safer, to put it this way. Bronze is like an oven, there is ~ 20% waste energy, at 350w while gaming that is 70w heating alone, maybe that is better to understand. where is our PSU Guru ?? Demon_ ??? Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Demon_ Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 What? I'm fishing at Lake Champlain. https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Lake+Champlain/@45.0616692,-73.1352006,13.65z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4cca873d4608d0a1:0x4abea7a39942b88!8m2!3d44.586581!4d-73.3800905 Yes, a bronze certification PSU will generate 62w of heat and last lesser. Output 350w=85% Input ???w=100% 100x350w/85= 412w Look at the warranty of the PSU: Garbage PSU= 3 years Cheap PSU= 5 years Good PSU= 7 years Very good= 10 years Hulk= 12+ years Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche.
Demon_ Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 High Power PSU are made by Sirtec. A decent oem who builds lots of medium end PSU for many brands. You can find better. Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche.
BitMaster Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) There you go :) if you dont want to take chances, take a Seasonic Prime, Gold or better, 120 -200€ depending on the Efficiency Label. Since you seem to run them PSU's for a decade+, dont cut corners here and go above Gold, either take Titanium or Platinum grade. I only use those, regardless of the PC's intended work. They just work, for years and years to come, 24/7 too. Petri Heil Demon ;) Edited July 22, 2019 by BitMaster Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
ebabil Posted July 22, 2019 Author Posted July 22, 2019 Platinium, titanium woa i didin't even know that they exist :) my budget can't stretch too much , so i will look what i can do FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
Strong05 Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 One of the in depth PSU review sites said there was essentially no effective difference between the seasonic gold and platinum/titanium lines. As always the law of diminishing returns is in effect. 5800X3d, 32GB DDR4@3400, 6800 xt, Reverb G2, Gunfighter/TMWH
BitMaster Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 The only good site for in-depth PSU reviews is offline meanwhile. The guy got hired by Intel. The difference is there, it's heat, longevity, noise ( comes with heat ) and featureset, OCP OPP etc. edit* The Corsair RMx 650w might fit your budget and covers my concerns as well. The RM650 ( without the x ) has a cheaper fan and chinese Caps, the X version has a premium fan and premium japanese Caps. Get the X. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
MonnieRock Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 The only good site for in-depth PSU reviews is offline meanwhile. The guy got hired by Intel. Here is a great place to look at PSU reviews. https://www.jonnyguru.com/ Happy Simming, Monnie Rack Rig: Rosewill RSV-L4000 | Koolance ERM-3K3UC | Xeon E5-1680 v2 @ 4.9ghz w/EK Monoblock | Asus Rampage IV Black Edition | 64GB 2133mhz | SLI TitanXP w/ EK Waterblocks | 2x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB | Seasonic 1000w Titanium | Windows 10 Pro 64bit | TM Warthog HOTAS w/40cm Extension | MFG Crosswind Rudders | Obutto R3volution | HP Reverb
Strong05 Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 The only good site for in-depth PSU reviews is offline meanwhile. The guy got hired by Intel. The difference is there, it's heat, longevity, noise ( comes with heat ) and featureset, OCP OPP etc. edit* The Corsair RMx 650w might fit your budget and covers my concerns as well. The RM650 ( without the x ) has a cheaper fan and chinese Caps, the X version has a premium fan and premium japanese Caps. Get the X. Sounds like you know what you're talking about. Could you please share with us the exact gains to be had with a titanium/platiunum PSU over gold with sources? 5800X3d, 32GB DDR4@3400, 6800 xt, Reverb G2, Gunfighter/TMWH
BitMaster Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 Sounds like you know what you're talking about. Could you please share with us the exact gains to be had with a titanium/platiunum PSU over gold with sources? you are a few months too late, I dont have all the detail as you would like to have it presented at hand and I dont invest the time to dig them out for you. Check if you can get a copy of hardocp.com and their reviews. The magic words would be ripple noise, transitions, ocp, opp, quality of caps and fans etc.. Seasonic Focus Gold is ok, but I would personally not go to gold but 1 step above. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
BitMaster Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 here's a copy. https://www.hardocp.com/reviews/psu_power_supplies/ Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Demon_ Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 The Platinum 92%/Titanium 94% certifier PSU (high end PSU) are better build with a better platform and high quality components. So, they are more expensive and last longer. They are suitable for a pc who need a lot of power (sli/crossfire) to operate. Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche.
Demon_ Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 Effects of voltage ripple is component longevity ($$$ video card) and overclocking potential. https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2053-power-supply-voltage-ripple-and-relevance Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche.
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