What it is necessary to make into the LockOn?

[Whisper]

I've finally made my mind and voted for FA-18.

In a market perspective, new content should be the seller.

So definitely it should be a new plane, and a bi-engines is better imho ;)

 

BUT, in parrallel, in order to improve the product, existing elements HAVE to be improved, things like comms, EM environement, flight models, etc... In fact, check things in Prov's list.

This won't be the selling point, but what will keep the community on product.

 

It's a 2-branches process : sell more with new content, keep community by reinforcing the existing one.

I wouldn't mind buying another addon containing new planes, if the level of implementation is on par with what FC seems to offer (will have to see it before ;), AND if overall product continues to be made better by improving existing element. Comms is a perfect example of what could be definitely improved in LOMAC.

 

EDIT : in other word, I think that putting one as the "main" task and everything else as "optionnal" is not a good option.

[Kula66]

Well, I went for an F-18 ... loads of countries fly it (but not mine), opens up NATO carrier ops, fast NATO A2G ... good opposition to the Mig29, very different from the F-15, however, the complexity of its avionics would I am sure make it a major project ... but, hey ... base it on Janes F-18 avionics and I am sure most people would be happy!

 

James

[emenance]

An F-18 add on would make Lock On HOT!

 

i love the su33 and the su 27 but i would also like to see another hot US plane in the mix.

[169th_Moose]

An F-18 add on would make Lock On HOT!

 

i love the su33 and the su 27 but i would also like to see another hot US plane in the mix.

 

Copy that, same here. F-18 would be a great asset to this community. It will sell like crazy around here if they add it.

 

see my wish list thread;

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=400102&f=49610606&m=309102655

 

lots of pics, carefull if your on dialup...

 

And F-18 add-on would be bring big buck$ to the DEV. If you build it. They will come. lol :wink: Especialy with a good campaing on publicity, TV add's and so on. Might be costly for a good publicity stunt, but the revenues will speak by themself after. Its a good gamble in my view.

 

Salutations,

Cheers,

[SAM-Smasher]

This is a very interesting poll, currently the addition of the F-18 is on par with the Su27\33 being improved. I am very interested to see how this eventually pans out, personally I predict a tie with this one.

 

But IMHO --- Vote Su-27\33 you know you want to 8)

[169th_Jaws]

Personally I'd love to see the F-16 coz it's my fav jet, but I voted for the F-18 simply because it would bring more balance to the sim. LOMAC needs a Western, carrier ready, multi role aircraft.

 

Of course, upgrading the F-15's avionics would also be VERY nice. I'd be more than satisfied with that as well.

[IKG200 Swierczek]

upgrading su27/33 first here

 

I would love to see all planes in LOmac modelled like su25T in 1.1 is.

Both in terms of physics model and realistic avionics. Then, there will be a time for developing new aircrafts IMHO ...

 

I do not consider adding new aircrafts as determinant of sim development. For me personally, sim with 4-5 really well modelled planes is far much better than sim with 30 poorly modelled planes developed only to satisfy expectations of simmers from all the countries ...

 

Quality matters. Not quantity.

Quantity is the quality's worst enemy

 

As for adding new planes after polishing existing ones, I would vote for ... Hokum :D . This would give quite another dimension to the sim 8)

[Cromewell]

I have to take the F16 for this one, as much as I would like a carrier capable nato plane. Like SwingKid said the 16 fits into the theatre much better than the 18.

[GGTharos]

upgrading su27/33 first here

 

I would love to see all planes in LOmac modelled like su25T in 1.1 is.

Both in terms of physics model and realistic avionics. Then, there will be a time for developing new aircrafts IMHO ...

 

I do not consider adding new aircrafts as determinant of sim development. For me personally, sim with 4-5 really well modelled planes is far much better than sim with 30 poorly modelled planes developed only to satisfy expectations of simmers from all the countries ...

 

Quality matters. Not quantity.

Quantity is the quality's worst enemy

 

As for adding new planes after polishing existing ones, I would vote for ... Hokum :D . This would give quite another dimension to the sim 8)

 

If Quality matters so much, how about spending a little while on the F-15's avionics then? ;) The 33/27 have been getting upgraded right along with the MiG for 1.1

[IKG200 Swierczek]

well ..... ok ... immediately after upgrading flanker family physics model to su25T model standard :wink:

[GGTharos]

WHich will come right after the west gets a SEAD capable plane ;)

[VapoR]

WHich will come right after the west gets a SEAD capable plane ;)

 

This is funny because we just found out recently (by Chizh) that the basic Su-25 that is in Lomac 1.0-1.02 can NOT carry antiradar missiles. So basically, this whole time the Russians were cheating! :o

 

Now with 1.1 the Red side will get a true SEAD capable flyable, the Blue side should come next!!

[GGTharos]

Yeah but you guys aren't getting the Pastel :(

[leafer]

I vote for any 'new' flyable with 1.1 AFM. When I say new, I don't mean Mig 29x or Flanker Z model. I'm talking about something we haven't flown before like the F18, Harrier, Tornado, Cobra attack helo, etc.

 

So, ED, start working on a completely new flight sim already! Forget LOMAC after this. :lol:

[Mimes]

"Make MiG-29 better".

 

...by adding new carrier capable multirole version 8)

 

How can I disagree with this one... Mig-29K and add an F/A-18 Hornet - I'd swap my wife for those two flyable panes (If I had these two flyable machines, I would have no time for my Mrs anyway :D )

 

P.S.: Just kidding, and hoping my Mrs will never make it to this forum, let alone read this post :oops: !

[Skywall23]

For F-16 I have voted. Because it lonely. :)

 

So I'm not alone!

 

-SK

 

No, you arent. Though I think the F-16 should be introduced in case a new flyable is considered by ED.

 

If not, call the DC A.S.A.P.

[olaleier]

On second thought...I think ED might do the right thing by stopping Lock On development after 1.1 (and perhaps a subsequent patch if there's any bugs :) ).

 

Put maximum effort in making a new product that makes them money. Standalone Ka-50 sim?

 

I'd like to see the sims move forward in technology, not just in content like new flyables etc.

 

Selling expansion packs to Lock On can be a good way to help fund a longer project of course...but developing these expansions take resources away from the next big thing.

[GGTharos]

Ka-50 is the next LOMAC addon. ;)

[Dark_Sceptre]

On second thought...I think ED might do the right thing by stopping Lock On development after 1.1 (and perhaps a subsequent patch if there's any bugs :) ).

 

Put maximum effort in making a new product that makes them money. Standalone Ka-50 sim?

 

I'd like to see the sims move forward in technology, not just in content like new flyables etc.

 

Selling expansion packs to Lock On can be a good way to help fund a longer project of course...but developing these expansions take resources away from the next big thing.

 

I agree totally. While I too would love to see ground mapping radar & proper SEAD capability, I could easily live with what we have today if only two fundamental aspects of the sim were improved; the AI and the war simulator/ campaign. According to Valery, they do not plan to do anything with the campaign engine in the Lock On series, but he has hinted that this may be on the list for future products.

 

It is my opinion that Lock On was a brilliant flight simulator featuring some interesting military aircraft, but not a very good COMBAT flight simulator. I also think that the engine reworking necessary to make it one, would probably be so extensive that in the end you would have a completely new sim anyway.

 

With this in mind, and assuming that Eagle still want to be in the simulator business, I personally feel that it would be best if they tie up the loose ends, release a couple of addons to keep us warm and interested, but move on to the next project as soon as possible. With a little luck they may steer clear of some of the problems that plagued the development of Lock On, and perhaps have something new in a couple of years.

 

But opinions probably differ on the subject ;)

[olaleier]

Ka-50 is the next LOMAC addon. ;)

 

I know, I just think it might be better if ED makes it a standalone sim while expanding on the Lock On technology.

[GGTharos]

But why? I mean it's the same technology and it jsut goes to show you that now there's nearly no limit to the flyables they -can- model, in terms of FM.

[olaleier]

But why? I mean it's the same technology and it jsut goes to show you that now there's nearly no limit to the flyables they -can- model, in terms of FM.

 

There's more to a flight sim than just flyables. :)

 

Having a full price retail product is nice for economy and as I understand there are many things that aren't possible (or is too much work) within the current package. Integrating a campaign system and other gameplay features is high on my list.

 

Btw, the search at the Ubi forum is down, but I seem to recall Valery saying the Ka-50 would be a standalone sim. (I might be wrong though)

[S77th-GOYA]

Tishin said it would be integrated into LOMAC. The link's around here somewhere, but I'm very lazy today. Trust me. ;)

[Dmut]

As far as I remember, accoding to ED-UBIsoft agreement, ED allowed to release two addons to LO. So Ka-50 will be a second and, most likely, the last addon to LO brand.

AFAIK, ED has started developing a new air simulation brand already :)

[GGTharos]

But why? I mean it's the same technology and it jsut goes to show you that now there's nearly no limit to the flyables they -can- model, in terms of FM.

 

There's more to a flight sim than just flyables. :)

 

Having a full price retail product is nice for economy and as I understand there are many things that aren't possible (or is too much work) within the current package. Integrating a campaign system and other gameplay features is high on my list.

 

Btw, the search at the Ubi forum is down, but I seem to recall Valery saying the Ka-50 would be a standalone sim. (I might be wrong though)

 

But they'd still use the LOMAC engine anyway, and they wouldn't be likely to do anything to it that they didn't do to LOMAC. It doesn't make sense man :D. You realize that with the Ka-50 addon there will be many new features integrated into the engine yes?