mikoyan Posted June 9, 2011 Posted June 9, 2011 but why? the 130 is cool but it is not as bad ass as a mig or a su! why!
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted June 9, 2011 Posted June 9, 2011 In the future an unnamed “national aerobatic team” (provisional designation “9 May”) will fly the nine Yak-130 training aircraft.Yak-130 is a new generation aircraft. Maybe, Russia is trying to promote it. Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
mikoyan Posted June 9, 2011 Posted June 9, 2011 Yak-130 is a new generation aircraft. Maybe, Russia is trying to promote it. yeah but that is like asking the Blue Angels to fly Hawks and ask the Thunderbirds to fly a texan! 1
nscode Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 you don't ask blue angels. you oreder them. Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 yeah but that is like asking the Blue Angels to fly Hawks and ask the Thunderbirds to fly a texan!I understand that. But, also, one should live within its own means. If there is no money for aerobatic team, then aerobatic team should not exist. There is no shame in being discipline and respect your own financial situation. Aerobatic team is not a necessity and when and if there is better times, Flankers and Fulcrums might fly aerobatics again. Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
EtherealN Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Well, aerobatics teams generally speaking aren't about being financially viable. They're about attracting recruits to the service. (From my own experience at least.) Flying what the public might perceive as "lesser" aircraft might remove the point of their existance to a large extent. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
T.Goat Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Noooo... I wanted to see the Knights. :( I guess there will always be a single Flanker demonstration.
nscode Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Well, aerobatics teams generally speaking aren't about being financially viable. They're about attracting recruits to the service. (From my own experience at least.) Flying what the public might perceive as "lesser" aircraft might remove the point of their existance to a large extent. Doing one low pass above a city can also do that :) (also from own experience ;)) Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
tflash Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 In the future aerobatic teams will be drones. Can you imagine an airshow demo with Predators buzzing around? The Red Bees (like they are called in A'stan). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Vekkinho Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 (edited) Disbanding of those units is a biggest mistake Russians can make. Those dozen aircraft and their pilots are Thee only "thru the year" airworthy and most valuable part of Russian VVS and PVO! Strizhi and Knight were established by pilots in order to keep flying and to maintain at least dozen airworthy fighter aircraft at Kubinka.None of these aircraft were customized for aerobatics, they retained their fight capatibilities. Edited June 10, 2011 by Vekkinho [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Bucic Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 In the future aerobatic teams will be drones. Can you imagine an airshow demo with Predators buzzing around? The Red Bees (like they are called in A'stan). Wait for the real UCAV like X-45 :) F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
Mikoyan89 Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 In the future aerobatic teams will be drones. Can you imagine an airshow demo with Predators buzzing around? The Red Bees (like they are called in A'stan). I hope i will be dead before see such a blasphemy YouTube Blog
mikoyan Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 I though that redbull was an sponsor of the russian knights... drones who want to see computer controlled airshows there is no human skill there
Lucas_From_Hell Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Uh, drones are controlled by humans, mostly. And if remotely controlled aircraft weren't popular, R/C and virtual events such as VFAT wouldn't have such a public.
nscode Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 that's a good point - keep predators and such at R/C gatherings :) 1 Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
Ross-impress Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 EDA Italian Call 2011 Configuration: Windows 11 Home/ Intel Core i9-12900F/ RTX 3080 10 GB/ 64GB DDR4-3200/ 2 TB m.2 NVMe/ HP Reverb G2/V2/ Thrustmaster Cougar Hotas/ INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT: @ross_impress • Instagram-foto's en -video's (everything about the real flying world, drone and DCS)
Bucic Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 Both are awesome! Ross, can you provide a direct link to a higher res version? F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
tflash Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 You guys take my joke too seriously ... but indeed VFAT shows that it doesn't have to be remote possibility: I actually enjoyed watching VFAT events a lot! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Cali Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 I understand that. But, also, one should live within its own means. If there is no money for aerobatic team, then aerobatic team should not exist. There is no shame in being discipline and respect your own financial situation. Aerobatic team is not a necessity and when and if there is better times, Flankers and Fulcrums might fly aerobatics again. Well, aerobatics teams generally speaking aren't about being financially viable. They're about attracting recruits to the service. (From my own experience at least.) Flying what the public might perceive as "lesser" aircraft might remove the point of their existance to a large extent. Also they are about getting people support and showing what the military has. Airshows bring a lot of money to the base they are at and attract thousands. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
EtherealN Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 Doing one low pass above a city can also do that :) (also from own experience ;)) Classic from when the Draken was new: "hey, let's show the plane to the people". "Ooops, I accidently broke the sound barrier over a major city and now we have thousands of people asking us to replace their windows." :D True though. I often see them practicing tac turns and such overhead and it always gives me a buzz. Not quite as big as back in the Viggen era when they'd often do the low-flying training over me, but still. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
EtherealN Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 Also they are about getting people support and showing what the military has. Airshows bring a lot of money to the base they are at and attract thousands. There's other ways as well. I am acquainted with a 39 pilot (wouldn't say friends since we don't communicate regularly, more friend of a friend with similar interests) and when he came over to us to do a talk on various topics you could see the enthusiasm for the fighter force grow palpably. A simple Q&A session for 30 minutes with a pilot can do wonders for shoring up support. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Cali Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 There's other ways as well. I am acquainted with a 39 pilot (wouldn't say friends since we don't communicate regularly, more friend of a friend with similar interests) and when he came over to us to do a talk on various topics you could see the enthusiasm for the fighter force grow palpably. A simple Q&A session for 30 minutes with a pilot can do wonders for shoring up support. Yes it can. When I was in Alaska I had an F-16 and A-10 pilot friend. We talked a lot since we went to the same church and the F-16 pilot even flew lock on 1.02. I always had fun talking to them, was deployed in Guam with the F-16 guy and almost had a flight over there. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
JaNk0 Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 The last one looks photoshoped. The light is a bit odd ? And the scale of the terrain is also a bit weird :P [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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