Florida Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 Watching YouTube tutorials on carrier landings, and they talk about caging and uncaging the HUD. I can't find anything about that particular wording, but in Chuck's F/A18 guide, this is mentioned: The HMD (Helmet-Mounted Display) can be used by turning the HMD Brightness Control Switch to BRT. Is this what caging is, turning on and off the helmet mounted display? 1 -= Gary =- a.k.a. Florida - Current DCS Beta, A-10C II Warthog, F/A-18C Hornet, F-16, F-14B Tomcat, P-51D, Spitfire, Track IR, Logitech X-56 HOTAS, Logitech rudder pedals, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, CH Throttle Quadrant, Razer Orb Weaver, X-Box controller
Zyll Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 There is a cage/ uncage HOTAS button. When the HUD is selected, this causes the pitch ladder to center in your HUD, or drift according to cross winds. 1
Zyll Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 During a landing, it's a good idea to uncage (default state), so your flight marker indicates your true flight path, helpful when trying to hit a carrier deck :) 1
RED Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 CAGE/UNCAGE button [C]. This switch has multiple functions that depend on the active system or weapon. • NAV Mode. Used to cage or uncage the velocity vector on the HUD. • A/A Mode, AIM-9. Controls sidewinder seeker position. AIM-9 seeker head is boresighted until L&S designation, then it is slaved to the L&S. Pressing the cage button with an L&S, toggles the seeker head between the L&S and boresight. Pressing and holding the cage button with the AIM-9 seeker head in boresight, then maneuvering the aircraft to point at a target heat source, achieving AIM-9 tone rise, then releasing the cage button will result in AIM-9 seeker head tracking the heat source to the gimbals of the missile. • A/A Mode, AIM-7. In A/A mode with Sparrow missile selected, commands radar into STT on the L and S target. • A/G Mode, Maverick. Controls seeker head lock-on, cage and un-cage function. Manual p.61
Supmua Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 To simplify, caging means returning to the center or default position and this applies to HUD/TGP camera/missile sensors. Uncaging means the camera or sensor or HUD display is free to move around. 1 PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
Larkis Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 On case 1 its helpfull so you could see the velocity vector when you do the brake. Thats all. 1
Ziptie Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 On case 1 its helpful so you could see the velocity vector when you do the brake. Thats all. Or with very strong winds, to be able to appropriately judge said crosswind and the effect it has on your aircraft's velocity vector, even when on straight and level approach to airfield (or carrier). Cheers, Don 1 i7 6700 @4ghz, 32GB HyperX Fury ddr4-2133 ram, GTX980, Oculus Rift CV1, 2x1TB SSD drives (one solely for DCS OpenBeta standalone) Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs Airframes: A10C, A10CII, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-16C, UH=1H, FC3. Modules: Combined Arms, Supercarrier. Terrains: Persian Gulf, Nevada NTTR, Syria
fitness88 Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 Manual p.61 "• A/A Mode, AIM-9. Controls sidewinder seeker position. AIM-9 seeker head is boresighted until L&S designation, then it is slaved to the L&S. Pressing the cage button with an L&S, toggles the seeker head between the L&S and boresight. Pressing and holding the cage button with the AIM-9 seeker head in boresight, then maneuvering the aircraft to point at a target heat source, achieving AIM-9 tone rise, then releasing the cage button will result in AIM-9 seeker head tracking the heat source to the gimbals of the missile." Interesting, I don't find I need to press and hold the cage button to keep the seeker head in boresight. Once I have a target heat source nose on I uncage. It will lock and continue to track.
Bunny Clark Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 Interesting, I don't find I need to press and hold the cage button to keep the seeker head in boresight. Once I have a target heat source nose on I uncage. It will lock and continue to track. My understanding is that holding the button basically tells the seeker head to look where you're looking rather than at a L&S target or boresight. If you're using it with no target locked and maneuvering to place a target inside the seeker circle on boresight in the HUD then you won't need to hold it - you're bringing the target to the seeker. If you use JHMCS, then holding cage will cause the seeker to look at your targeting cue, allowing you to lock targets off boresight. Oil In The Water Hornet Campaign. Bunny's: Form-Fillable Controller Layout PDFs | HOTAS Kneeboards | Checklist Kneeboards
Ziptie Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 If you use JHMCS, then holding cage will cause the seeker to look at your targeting cue, allowing you to lock targets off boresight. With the Aim-9x, correct sir. Get those good off boresight shots in that way. Cheers, Don i7 6700 @4ghz, 32GB HyperX Fury ddr4-2133 ram, GTX980, Oculus Rift CV1, 2x1TB SSD drives (one solely for DCS OpenBeta standalone) Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs Airframes: A10C, A10CII, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-16C, UH=1H, FC3. Modules: Combined Arms, Supercarrier. Terrains: Persian Gulf, Nevada NTTR, Syria
Mainstay Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 With the Aim-9x, correct sir. Get those good off boresight shots in that way. Cheers, Don When going into a turn blinding for example the aim-9 on the right wing does it automatically select the one on the left wing?
fitness88 Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) My understanding is that holding the button basically tells the seeker head to look where you're looking rather than at a L&S target or boresight. If you're using it with no target locked and maneuvering to place a target inside the seeker circle on boresight in the HUD then you won't need to hold it - you're bringing the target to the seeker. If you use JHMCS, then holding cage will cause the seeker to look at your targeting cue, allowing you to lock targets off boresight. Thanks for the clarification! "L&S target or boresight" isn't boresight where you are looking? Edited November 6, 2019 by fitness88
Ziptie Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 When going into a turn blinding for example the aim-9 on the right wing does it automatically select the one on the left wing? Can't say that I have ever experienced a missile coming off a wing and going thru the airframe - if that is the true question.... The AIM-9x is quite maneuverable, so even from the "opposite wing" - it quickly negotiates an intercept course for the target. Cheers, Don i7 6700 @4ghz, 32GB HyperX Fury ddr4-2133 ram, GTX980, Oculus Rift CV1, 2x1TB SSD drives (one solely for DCS OpenBeta standalone) Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs Airframes: A10C, A10CII, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-16C, UH=1H, FC3. Modules: Combined Arms, Supercarrier. Terrains: Persian Gulf, Nevada NTTR, Syria
Harker Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 Can't say that I have ever experienced a missile coming off a wing and going thru the airframe - if that is the true question.... The AIM-9x is quite maneuverable, so even from the "opposite wing" - it quickly negotiates an intercept course for the target. Cheers, Don I think the question was related to the seeker being able to see through the airframe, which, in my experience, it does in DCS. Last time I tried, I could lock a target on my left with the AIM-9X on the right wingtip (HOBS mode without radar lock), my own aircraft clearly blocking the seeker from seeing the target. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro
Ziptie Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 I think the question was related to the seeker being able to see through the airframe, which, in my experience, it does in DCS. Last time I tried, I could lock a target on my left with the AIM-9X on the right wingtip (HOBS mode without radar lock), my own aircraft clearly blocking the seeker from seeing the target. Ah, if that was the question - yes, you are correct. It will lock from the opposite side of the aircraft. Cheers, Don i7 6700 @4ghz, 32GB HyperX Fury ddr4-2133 ram, GTX980, Oculus Rift CV1, 2x1TB SSD drives (one solely for DCS OpenBeta standalone) Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs Airframes: A10C, A10CII, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-16C, UH=1H, FC3. Modules: Combined Arms, Supercarrier. Terrains: Persian Gulf, Nevada NTTR, Syria
Bunny Clark Posted November 7, 2019 Posted November 7, 2019 With the Aim-9x, correct sir. Get those good off boresight shots in that way. JHMCS works off-boresight for the AIM-9M as well, it just as a much smaller field of view. Thanks for the clarification! "L&S target or boresight" isn't boresight where you are looking? Boresight is a fixed angle dead ahead of the aircraft. With no L&S target selected by the radar, the small circle on the HUD is boresight. Oil In The Water Hornet Campaign. Bunny's: Form-Fillable Controller Layout PDFs | HOTAS Kneeboards | Checklist Kneeboards
Ziptie Posted November 7, 2019 Posted November 7, 2019 JHMCS works off-boresight for the AIM-9M as well, it just as a much smaller field of view. Correct, my “go to” of choice for wing stations. Cheers, Don i7 6700 @4ghz, 32GB HyperX Fury ddr4-2133 ram, GTX980, Oculus Rift CV1, 2x1TB SSD drives (one solely for DCS OpenBeta standalone) Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs Airframes: A10C, A10CII, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-16C, UH=1H, FC3. Modules: Combined Arms, Supercarrier. Terrains: Persian Gulf, Nevada NTTR, Syria
j-tk Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 Can someone tell me what the default hotas or keyboard button is to uncage the Aim 9x on the F18? Lost bindings somehow, and after buddy sent me their default I can't find it. Thought it just used to be keyboard C but tats not working now. Thanks!
maxTRX Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, j-tk said: Can someone tell me what the default hotas or keyboard button is to uncage the Aim 9x on the F18? Lost bindings somehow, and after buddy sent me their default I can't find it. Thought it just used to be keyboard C but tats not working now. Thanks! It is C. I have it mapped to a rocker switch on my WH throttle. Do you see it in the list of keyboard commands?
j-tk Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 Thought so. DCS is just saying no way José, so just put it on my hotas throttle for now. Thanks buddy!
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