carss Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Are you guys considering a full fidelity Russian aircraft as your next module? If so, would the Mig-29K be possible for you guys? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorban Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I doubt that Deka would even have the right connections and access to the Russian technology for this task. It will probably take some Russian developers to develop this jet properly. 1 Airplanes : A-10C II | AJS-37 | A/V-8B | F-4E | F-14A/B | F/A-18C | FC3 | JF-17 | M2000-C Helicopters : AH-64D | CH-47F | Ka-50 III | Mi-24P | Mi-8MTV2 | SA342 | UH-1H Other Modules : Combined Arms | Persian Gulf | Afghanistan TRAINED - LEARNING - LOW EXPERIENCE - ABANDONED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 They can’t read Russian 1 Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carss Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 I think Deka said their next one is another Chinese aircraft, and after that they may consider Russian [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxDollarsAtWork Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Would they consider a Russian aircraft in PLAAF service like the Su-27SK or Su-30MKK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carss Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 Would they consider a Russian aircraft in PLAAF service like the Su-27SK or Su-30MKK? Su-30MKK sounds good, it would be a good counter to the F-15E by RAZBAM and they could implement a Chinese or Russian version of Jester AI, like an Ivan AI or something ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Indian developers should more suitable for MiG-29K since they operated them. Unfortunately never heard of it. Yeah well.. ...wishfull thinking of mine. Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carss Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 Indian developers should more suitable for MiG-29K since they operated them. Unfortunately never heard of it. Yeah well.. ...wishfull thinking of mine. True, but I doubt anyone from India would be willing to give any info on the Mig-29K to a Chinese dev team. So Russia is the only chance, plus Russia is the main creator of it so why not [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydy Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 We need a full fidelity russian acft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carss Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 We need a full fidelity russian acft. Yes we do, I believe ED hopes to make one full fidelity 4th gen Russian Aircraft. So I'm certainly guessing it's already going to be a Flanker or a Fulcrum. I do hope either one can make a Mig-29K. It'll be the perfect counter to the Hornet [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HmtSabotage Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I doubt that Deka would even have the right connections and access to the Russian technology for this task. It will probably take some Russian developers to develop this jet properly. No, the Russian developers cannot do that, because the Russian laws in military secret sphere, but developers of any other country can, because Russian laws do not matter... that,s the problem. ED itself cannot make RED fighter by the same means (sorry for my english, im Russian) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorban Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 In that case, I would really love it if Deka would consider making a Russian jet. I have a lot of respect for these developers and having a russian jet from these guys would most likely have very well modeled functions and features. DCS will be more balanced and we will have a more diverse crowd in the community. I hope you guys get a proper modeled module soon. Airplanes : A-10C II | AJS-37 | A/V-8B | F-4E | F-14A/B | F/A-18C | FC3 | JF-17 | M2000-C Helicopters : AH-64D | CH-47F | Ka-50 III | Mi-24P | Mi-8MTV2 | SA342 | UH-1H Other Modules : Combined Arms | Persian Gulf | Afghanistan TRAINED - LEARNING - LOW EXPERIENCE - ABANDONED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) I have indefinitely put on hold any hopes of a full fidelity Russian 4th gen. My understanding is that there are some vaguely worded Russian laws that could land a developer in trouble for having/using the kind of data required to make a full fidelity mod of an aircraft currently in service. No, the Russian developers cannot do that, because the Russian laws in military secret sphere, but developers of any other country can, because Russian laws do not matter... that,s the problem. ED itself cannot make RED fighter by the same means (sorry for my english, im Russian) Exactly, ED cannot make it. But can they be 100% sure they will not get in trouble for having a modern Russian aircraft on their platform even if made by someone else? Maybe they can't even afford to allow a 3rd party to do it. Edited December 24, 2019 by VC VC =X51= Squadron is recruiting! X51 website: https://x51squadron.com/ Join our Discord: https://discord.gg/d9JtFY4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 I have indefinitely put on hold any hopes of a full fidelity Russian 4th gen. My understanding is that there are some vaguely worded Russian laws that could land a developer in trouble for having/using the kind of data required to make a full fidelity mod of an aircraft currently in service. Exactly, ED cannot make it. But can they be 100% sure they will not get in trouble for having a modern Russian aircraft on their platform even if made by someone else? Maybe they can't even afford to allow a 3rd party to do it. When it comes to defense contracting and opsec, always err on the side of caution. That might mean certain airframes are out of the question, even for 3rd parties. Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-20 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 If I remember correctly, Deka once said they are going to make Chinese planes only. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 No, the Russian developers cannot do that, because the Russian laws in military secret sphere, but developers of any other country can, because Russian laws do not matter... that,s the problem. ED itself cannot make RED fighter by the same means (sorry for my english, im Russian) It is more like that no one can go ask from Russian company (defense companies) any details about the weapons or systems they are manufacturing and selling. But a company that ain't Russian based, can go and try to make a deal with any other country (than Russia). There is no logic at all that FSB would disallow Russian company to get access to a Russian aircraft and weapons systems, but then would allow a foreign country to have access to them. i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airhunter Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 I really prefer Chinese aircraft, way better missiles and more capable/versitile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carss Posted December 29, 2019 Author Share Posted December 29, 2019 A full fidelity Russian jet doesn't have to be a 4th gen aircraft if it's not possible (Although it would be highly preferred by the community). Even if they went cold war and developed an interceptor like a Mig-25 or the Su-15 Flagon would be plenty [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulding Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 :music_whistling:for mie i'm so happy when there will be a SU30 ANY VERSION :book: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]:alien:My dailymotion channel:http://www.dailymotion.com/buldingm :pilotfly: and youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/buldingm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carss Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 :music_whistling:for mie i'm so happy when there will be a SU30 ANY VERSION :book: +1 I'd like an Su-30M2 if asked any preference in the Su-30 family. It's still a traditional Su-30 without Canards or TVC so it shouldn't be as classified. And also advanced enough too [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carss Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 If Flankers were ever an option, here is a variety of single seat Su-27s and 2 seat Su-30s in various schemes..... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teknetinium Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) J-11A/B would sell like hot cake, I like the J-10 as well, Deka Ironworks have really proved that they are great developers with J-17, great work! Edited January 5, 2020 by Teknetinium 51st PVO Discord SATAC YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teknetinium Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I can understand why ED dont get to make Russian aircraft :) 51st PVO Discord SATAC YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carss Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 J-11A/B would sell like hot cake, I like the J-10 as well, Deka Ironworks have really proved that they are great developers with J-17, great work! Deka is already working on a J-10 but as an AI for the China Asset Pack. The J-10 is too advanced to be made as a full fidelity module in DCS, at least for the next few years [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Aha, yep, sure https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3676975&postcount=93 Based on that post, there is literally nothing about older declassified modules to included the SU-24 and SU-17 that would be a problem. Maybe that line is the SU-27 since he didn't ask. But then again maybe not. IMO its easier and more profitable for ED to pump out more generic 4th Gen US stuff so thats what they do for now... New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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