Rudders

[Eagle Driver]

Oh, I have. If I even SAY the words "rudder" or "pedals" in the same five minutes, the response will always be an exhasperated "I know!" If Christmas doesn't see me with a set of pedals, I will simply buy them with my own money. Sure, it will eat up 90% of it, but it sounds like it'll be worth it. Proud owner of X52 Pro and TrackIR 4, hoping to complete my holy trinity set (term coined by SimHQ AFAIK).

[Flanker15]

I just got my X52pro a week ago and I know this isn't about rudder pedals but it's soooo cool. All these buttons and toggles with lights, I got annoyed at how how far down the hand rest was at first but then I discovered: ZOMG it's adjustable how cool is that! Oh and how the fire button turns from green to red when you flip up the cover that's just plain coolness.

I can just sit and look at it and it impresses me!

(Note my previous joystick was a SW2).

[Bucic]

Look again ;)

 

 

:wassat: . . . Is it a screenshot or real photo?

[EvilBivol-1]

:wassat: . . . Is it a screenshot or real photo?

:thumbsup:

[Bucic]

:thumbsup:

 

I voted for a screenshot but my friend "doesn't like" the rotor blades:)

[EvilBivol-1]

'cause it's a photo - but I love that you had to ask. :)

[Bucic]

'cause it's a photo - but I love that you had to ask. :)

 

You really ARE Evil :)

My bad (shadows:doh:) and it doeasn't change the fact tahat LO engine is crippled. I'm evil too :P

[Flanker15]

I thought it was a screenshot at first glance but closer examination shows that it's a photo. The fact that it can make you think that it's a screenshot shows how good the model for the KA-50 in BS it!

[Squid_DK]

One of the best investments I made for peripherals has been the TIR and my CH pedals, I can't imagine flying without any of those anymore.

 

Cheers

Staffan

[Yellonet]

You really ARE Evil :)

My bad (shadows:doh:) and it doeasn't change the fact tahat LO engine is crippled. I'm evil too :P

Well.. it actually looks somewhat like a screenshot, the image is soft/blurred somehow that gives it a somewhat gamish look.

[Bucic]

Well.. it actually looks somewhat like a screenshot, the image is soft/blurred somehow that gives it a somewhat gamish look.

 

HA! :D

 

Back to topic.

There is a better precision with rudder pedals but IMO the most important is you don't make any accidental inputs (unavoidable) to pitch and roll axis. Same with too hard trigger or other buttons on a stick.

[Immermann]

Get Simpeds. Love'em!

[hreich]

I am using saitek x52pro and a pedals of thrustmaster gt forcefeedback wheel . I am hoping that BS will also allow use of two or three controllers

:pilotfly:

[flask]

I'd like some pedals one day but this track IR thing seems interesting aswell. But they're both so expensive!!!

260A$ for IR and 240A$ for pedal!

Also with this Track IR thing, if you look left wouldn't you actual head be looking away from the screen?

Flanker if you have to sell your car sell your cd collection but whatever you do get Track IR you will never fly without it again.:thumbup::joystick::)

[G3]

I am using saitek x52pro and a pedals of thrustmaster gt forcefeedback wheel . I am hoping that BS will also allow use of two or three controllers

:pilotfly:

 

arhhh the old gt ffb, i am still using one of these, quality unit as the pedals are still spike free after years of driving and also using them as flight yaw pedals.

i think its fairly safe to say that dcs bs will be supporting mulitiple input devices, and hopefully it doesn't automatically fill each new device/axis with a command, as i always thought it was a chore to go thru and delete all the unused mapped axis and buttons etc. hint hint ed :)

[Amuro]

I use complete set CH Fighterstick + Pro throttle/pedals. The controller management software lets you combine all CH USB devices into one virtual input device, so they can be used with games that only support one controller.

[therion_prime]

I got my CH pedals about a year ago, but by now all pots are already spiking like mad. The same goes for the pots of the trimwheels of my X52.

 

In my opinion the big game controller companies are ripping off their customers by still using vintage potentiometer "technology" instead of using newer techs like hall-sensors and load-cells. They know that if they'd do that, their game controllers would last pretty much forever and customers would never have to buy a new one.

 

Of course I could exchange the pots in my CH pedals with new ones, but instead I will build my own pedals with hall-sensors and load-cells (pretty much a Simped copy but more adjustable) which will hopefully last as long as there is USB.

 

I'm tired of being ripped off by CH, Saitek, Logitech and co. Viva la revolution! :mad: :joystick:

[leafer]

Got link to where you'll get hall sensors from?

[therion_prime]

Google for Honeywell SS490

 

Here's a good thread about it:

http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?t=248618

[leafer]

Huh. I always thought you need the rotary kind to work in joysticks, rudders, etc. Anyway, I found one the other day. Not sure how much it costs but might work.

[therion_prime]

Huh. I always thought you need the rotary kind to work in joysticks, rudders, etc. Anyway, I found one the other day. Not sure how much it costs but might work.

 

You can use a ring magnet, one magnet or two magnets. It depends on what is best suited. For a rotary you'd probably use a ring magnet for example.

 

Out of curiosity I once opened up my X52. There is one hall sensor and two small magnets (one on each side of the sensor) for the X and Y axis each. The Hall sensor is static and the magnets are moved by the sick. It's a pretty straight forward design I want to copy for my pedals.

 

Edit: I am not aware of any rotary hall sensors.

[leafer]

Oops. Forget to include the link.

 

pic and specs

price and availability

 

And there's this from Cubpilot. He sells mod kits for Cougar stick and throttle. His is 50 usd each.

[therion_prime]

Oops. Forget to include the link.

 

pic and specs

price and availability

 

And there's this from Cubpilot. He sells mod kits for Cougar stick and throttle. His is 50 usd each.

 

Yeah, these could work. The are 5V and have a linear output but are quite expensive. But on the other hand: those 50.000.000 revolutions would probably be enough for a lifetime. :joystick:

 

Thanks for the link, they could be of use for the toe brakes! :thumbup:

[leafer]

Glad to be of service. Who knows, with the AFM, we might use up 50,000,000 revolutions in a month or so just trying to get the Ka-50 to fly straight. :D

[Nordic]

I would like to add one thing to the poti vs hall sensor discussion. In my opinion there is no need to use expensive hall sensors, because if you buy high quality potis they will last a very long time. I use Vishay 357 potis for 10€/piece (rated for 5.000.000 cycles) in my self made racing pedals since 2 years and they work like on the first day. Potis have a bad image, because big hardware manufactures use very low quality and cheap potis in their controllers. They are not interested in selling hardware which last forever.

If you can find cheap hall sensors, fine, otherwise i would recommend potis. And they have definitve a linear charateristic. I'm not sure about the self made hall sensors mods you can see at racesimcentral. AFAIK no one ever tested the linearity.

 

http://www.vishay.com/docs/57059/357.pdf

http://www.vishay.com/docs/57042/157.pdf