hotas throttle and F18

[doclucio]

hi guys, please can someone tell me how to make my hotas throttle warthog like in the A10C?!?

I mean, with the hotas throttle in the A10C i can put the engine to idle with just raise and forward from off to idle, and to shut down the engine just raise and go back from idle to off...why is not possible on the F18?!? Is easy and usefull

[randomTOTEN]

Throttle (Left) OFF/IDLE

Throttle (Right) OFF/IDLE

[doclucio]

i saw it but it does not work or you have to go back and forth 2 times to start the engines

[doclucio]

mmmm....So in your room you have a real F18?!?Cmon guys, you just spend 500euros for the hotas and then just because is not an A10C you cannot customize your controls a l8ttle bit?!?

[speed-of-heat]

i saw it but it does not work or you have to go back and forth 2 times to start the engines

 

Add a modifier, I bind off to windows key plus idle button...

[randomTOTEN]

i saw it but it does not work or you have to go back and forth 2 times to start the engines

that's because your throttles aren't synced with the game position. You're moving them a couple times tell the simulator where the throttle is at.

You can do that a couple times to "wake everything up," or click "Synchronize Cockpit Controls with HOTAS Controls at Mission Start."

[Razor18]

I actually leave my physical throttle at idle, and only when engine cranked up, I lift it back behind cut-off detent first then reengage to idle. Or pull it back only after you have entered cockpit anyways, to "tell" DCS to monitor that.

Edited May 19, 2020 by Razor18

[VpR81]

that's because your throttles aren't synced with the game position. You're moving them a couple times tell the simulator where the throttle is at.

You can do that a couple times to "wake everything up," or click "Synchronize Cockpit Controls with HOTAS Controls at Mission Start."

 

this never worked for me. I've always had the Hotas synchro activated and still have to "wake up" my Warthog each time i enter the simulation. Or at least on the briefing screen before i actually jump into the pit.

[Ala12Rv-Birdman]

that's because your throttles aren't synced with the game position. You're moving them a couple times tell the simulator where the throttle is at.

You can do that a couple times to "wake everything up," or click "Synchronize Cockpit Controls with HOTAS Controls at Mission Start."

 

That's true.

I had that option activated before, so idle detect worked perfectly and every swith in throtle set its relative in cockpit acordingly.

After last updates, sadly, I had to unchek that option because everytime I get into an airborne jet, the plane starts rolling like crazy until I cycle the stick (ugly and weird way to start a mission)

[randomTOTEN]

I personally don't use it. I just configure the hardware switches to match the expected positions in the sim. Everything seems to work just fine and I don't notice any problems. Basically "Synchronize HOTAS Controls with Cockpit Controls at Mission Start":thumbup:

[doclucio]

so just to understand...i would like to have THE SAME AS A10C IN F18...what is the best way to obtain it?!?

and on the contrary...it works very well, why the developers do not implement a way to "copy" it on the f18?!?

[doclucio]

i will try that, where do i have to flag to have this?!?

[Razor18]

You can't. The F-18 has other engine start logic, and has an extra engine crank switch the A-10C doesn't. And DCS wants to simulate F-18 as it is in real life, not how it would be in the A-10C or is convenient for you.

Edited May 19, 2020 by Razor18

[doclucio]

ok so why we can assign different keys to our A10c hotas?!?in the f18 you could not use an a10 hotas...you should buy an f18 hotas...cmon guys is just a game, very good simulation but always a game, you are not flying real jets in your houses, just tell me...do you use a keybord to start and shut down your jet in real life?!?So how is it possible you use a keyboard in dcs?!?and you can also change keys assignments...in the keyboard...SO WHY IS THAT A BIG PROBLEM TO LET PEOPLE CUSTOMIZE HOW THEY WANT THE HARDWARE...i really do not understand...

[Brun]

I have no idea what the problem is. My Warthog throttle works perfectly for starting the engines in both the A-10 and F/A-18. Despite the differences in procedure, the funtionality of the throttle is identical.

 

If yours doesn't work something's wrong with the settings.

[randomTOTEN]

Here is how I start the F/A-18C using the relevant controls in DCS using my Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS throttle.

 

 

I have the OFF detent set using the bindings I told you to use on page 1 of this same thread (L/R OFF/IDLE)

I do not use the "Synchronize controls at mission start" option in settings.

Because I know the Hornet will be engines off when I start the mission, I also know the in-game throttles will be in the OFF position.

I put my TMWH throttles in the OFF position, then I press FLY.

When in the simulator, I look at the 3d throttles and move my WH throttle to IDLE, and observe the 3d throttle do the same. Satisfied everything is working correctly, I make sure to again set the throttles to OFF (you can skip this step if you want.. but I do it as a check).

I turn on the battery and perform the fire test.

I turn on the APU

I see the READY green light illuminate

I set the crank switch to Left or Right

I set my TMWH throttle to IDLE at the appropriate time.

 

 

Engine starts.

Edited May 19, 2020 by randomTOTEN

[rob10]

ok so why we can assign different keys to our A10c hotas?!?in the f18 you could not use an a10 hotas...you should buy an f18 hotas...cmon guys is just a game, very good simulation but always a game, you are not flying real jets in your houses, just tell me...do you use a keybord to start and shut down your jet in real life?!?So how is it possible you use a keyboard in dcs?!?and you can also change keys assignments...in the keyboard...SO WHY IS THAT A BIG PROBLEM TO LET PEOPLE CUSTOMIZE HOW THEY WANT THE HARDWARE...i really do not understand...

 

I have mine set to sync with my WH HOTAS when it starts (which, by the way works close to perfectly for me for cold starts).

I set my HOTAS back over the idle detents before I start sim (when I remember, occasionally I have to set them back after I start the sim). There are actually hidden buttons in the throttle that doing this causes to be pressed. They are bound to Throttle (Left) - OFF/IDLE and Throttle (Right) - OFF/IDLE.

I have the ENG OPER buttons forward click set to ENGINE CRANK SWITCH - CYCLE LEFT and ENGINE CRANK SWITCH - CYCLE RIGHT. I click on this and wait for engine to spool up to 20-25% then move the appropriate throttle over the detent (which releases the hidden switch) and causes the engine to go from off to idle and the engine to start.

Zero reason to use any keyboard button in this part of the startup process and all done with stock DCS bindings (no .lua editing required).

 

Honestly I find it easier to start the F-18. The A-10 seems is a little more finicky at times IMO.

[Razor18]

ok so why we can assign different keys to our A10c hotas?!?in the f18 you could not use an a10 hotas...you should buy an f18 hotas...cmon guys is just a game, very good simulation but always a game, you are not flying real jets in your houses, just tell me...do you use a keybord to start and shut down your jet in real life?!?So how is it possible you use a keyboard in dcs?!?and you can also change keys assignments...in the keyboard...SO WHY IS THAT A BIG PROBLEM TO LET PEOPLE CUSTOMIZE HOW THEY WANT THE HARDWARE...i really do not understand...

 

 

I'm not sure I'm the only one still not really understand your real question. Unless you want to ask in fact, how to start up an F-18 using switches on the Warthog only? If so, then why don't you assign in game engine crank switch L and R to ENG OPER switches L and R on WH throttle?

What did you try up to now anyways?

[doclucio]

ok, problem solved, thanks to sync to the hotas as suggested everything works perfectly, i also set the AB detent of the hotas(i am not sure if it is convenient or not, infact in emergency situation raising the trotthle could be difficult).

Thks for the help

[Razor18]

Then why did you still cry about it 3 more times AFTER randomTOTEN mentioned it first in post #7?? :doh:

[Ala12Rv-Birdman]

ok, problem solved, thanks to sync to the hotas as suggested everything works perfectly, i also set the AB detent of the hotas(i am not sure if it is convenient or not, infact in emergency situation raising the trotthle could be difficult).

Thks for the help

 

Ok, perfect.

Now, can you confirm if everything works fine if starting airborne? Just try, let's say, caucasus free flight instant action... On my end, it starts rolling right after clicking on FLY until I cicle the stick...