Togg Posted July 23, 2020 Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) I updated my computer to Windows May 2020. There is a feature called Hardware-Accelerated GPU Scheduling. It may improves some performances. :D Before, DCS had no problem So I enabled it. Why not ? :) On -> DCS hangs at the splash screen with a black background and the current theme music started. So Crtl+Alt+Suppr -> I killed it. I restarted it just after and it was ok Off -> No problem I play on the last stable release with the Nivida drivers 451.48. Edited July 23, 2020 by Togg [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] https://github.com/Togg-streamdeck/dcs
Worrazen Posted July 23, 2020 Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) Yeah, as mentioned officially and on various tech sites, it's a feature that needs support in the whole pipeline, and it's very early, so don't expect it doing anything good, and it seems like it currently produces the opposite effect. However I'm not too sure on the game's part, if the game needs support of some kind, or at least some bits of code here and there. But you need a modern enough graphics card and drivers have to support it, and as you know early driver support could be bugged, or the feature/windows update could it self be bugged as per Windows usual. Edited July 23, 2020 by Worrazen Modules: A-10C I/II, F/A-18C, Mig-21Bis, M-2000C, AJS-37, Spitfire LF Mk. IX, P-47, FC3, SC, CA, WW2AP, CE2. Terrains: NTTR, Normandy, Persian Gulf, Syria
Flappie Posted July 23, 2020 Posted July 23, 2020 See here for more information about the W10 "2004" update and its GPU scheduling thing: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=281151 ---
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 23, 2020 ED Team Posted July 23, 2020 Make sure you have the latest NVIDIA driver. I had to disable Hardware-Accelerated GPU Scheduling It gave my machine stutters in VR Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Togg Posted July 23, 2020 Author Posted July 23, 2020 Thanks all. It will stay disabled. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] https://github.com/Togg-streamdeck/dcs
Vyrtuoz Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 On 2020-09, with everything up to date, I still get random crashes in DCS World VR, depending on how much I play with F-10 and aircraft skins in multiplayer. Disabling the hardware GPU scheduling, prevents crashes in DCS, and replace them by random heavy stutter time to time… Not perfect, but better than crashing in a middle of a two hours flight…
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted September 30, 2020 ED Team Posted September 30, 2020 If you get a crash with it enabled please attach your dcs log and we will take a closer look. thank you Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Vyrtuoz Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 Certainly! Yesterday, I have retested with the latest drivers from nVidia, with Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling set to on. It took 10 minutes to get a crash while playing with the Valve Index in VR. I was playing with Mirage 2000 skins (going through a list of 10 to 15) Checking the F10 map Coming back to my cockpit, re-arming While I was entering waypoints in my computer, my friend on the next parking spot was playing with F-16C skins Then I got a crash to desktop without any dialog box Here are the files I got (dcs.20201001-003214.dmp is 0 bytes, so I do not post it here) After that, I turned off HAGS, rebooted and the flight was fine for hours... Let me know if this helpsdcs.logDxDiag-crash2020-09-30.txtdcs.20201001-003214.crash.txt
Flappie Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 It looks like a memory issue. Still, you have 32G B of RAM and a decent 16GB pagefile. Were you streaming? 2020-10-01 00:31:30.824 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Can't load image 'c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/iaf 101st squadron/f16_bl50_tail_IAF_101_RoughMet.dds'. Reason: The request is not supported. 2020-10-01 00:31:30.822 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Can't load image 'c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/iaf 101st squadron/Fuel_Tank_300Gal_IAF_101.dds'. Reason: The request is not supported. 2020-10-01 00:31:31.442 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/iaf 101st squadron/F16_bl50_Main_1_IAF.dds. Reason: Not enough memory resources are available to complete this operation. 2020-10-01 00:31:31.860 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Can't load image 'c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/mercenary django/F16_bl50_Main_1_RoughMet.dds'. Reason: The request is not supported. 2020-10-01 00:31:31.862 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Can't load image 'c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/mercenary django/F16_bl50_Main_2.dds'. Reason: The request is not supported. 2020-10-01 00:31:31.866 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Can't load image 'c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/mercenary django/F16_bl50_Main_2_RoughMet.dds'. Reason: The request is not supported. 2020-10-01 00:31:31.869 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Can't load image 'c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/mercenary django/F16_bl50_Main_3.dds'. Reason: The request is not supported. 2020-10-01 00:31:31.872 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Can't load image 'c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/mercenary django/F16_bl50_Main_3_RoughMet.dds'. Reason: The request is not supported. 2020-10-01 00:31:31.875 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Can't load image 'c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/mercenary django/F16_bl50_Kil.dds'. Reason: The request is not supported. 2020-10-01 00:31:31.877 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Can't load image 'c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/mercenary django/F16_bl50_Kil_RoughMet.dds'. Reason: The request is not supported. 2020-10-01 00:31:31.881 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Can't load image 'c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/mercenary django/F16_bl50_wing_L.dds'. Reason: The request is not supported. 2020-10-01 00:31:31.886 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Can't load image 'c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/mercenary django/F16_bl50_wing_L_RoughMet.dds'. Reason: The request is not supported. 2020-10-01 00:31:31.889 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Can't load image 'c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/mercenary django/F16_bl50_wing_R.dds'. Reason: The request is not supported. 2020-10-01 00:31:31.893 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Can't load image 'c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/mercenary django/F16_bl50_wing_R_RoughMet.dds'. Reason: The request is not supported. 2020-10-01 00:31:31.894 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/mercenary django/F16_bl50_Main_1.dds. Reason: Not enough memory resources are available to complete this operation. 2020-10-01 00:31:31.895 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Can't load image 'c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/mercenary django/F16_bl50_Engine.dds'. Reason: The request is not supported. 2020-10-01 00:31:31.917 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/mercenary django/F16_bl50_Wing_Pylon_2.dds. Reason: Not enough memory resources are available to complete this operation. 2020-10-01 00:31:31.931 ERROR EDCORE: Not enough memory to decmpress: fuel_tank_370gal_diff_RoughMet.dds 2020-10-01 00:31:31.933 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/mercenary django/Fuel_Tank_300Gal.dds. Reason: Not enough memory resources are available to complete this operation. 2020-10-01 00:31:31.936 WARNING SECURITYCONTROL: IC fail: textures/fuel_tank_370gal_diff_roughmet @ bazar/world/textures/fuel_tanks.zip 2020-10-01 00:31:31.940 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Can't load image '/textures/fuel_tank_370gal_diff_RoughMet.dds'. Reason: The parameter is incorrect. 2020-10-01 00:31:31.959 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for c:/users/vyrtu/saved games/dcs.openbeta/liveries/f-16c_50/mercenary django/F16_bl50_Wing_Pylon_1.dds. Reason: Not enough memory resources are available to complete this operation. 2020-10-01 00:31:56.174 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: forestDistanceFactor has been changed to 1.000000. Update lod buffers. 2020-10-01 00:31:56.175 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectDeclBuffer() 2020-10-01 00:31:56.175 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectLodDeclBuffer() 2020-10-01 00:31:56.228 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: surface5 gc() LOD 0 219 squares 2020-10-01 00:31:56.250 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: surface5 gc() LOD 1 224 squares 2020-10-01 00:31:56.250 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: surface5 gc() 40.716300 ms 2020-10-01 00:32:06.956 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: forestDistanceFactor has been changed to 0.750000. Update lod buffers. 2020-10-01 00:32:06.957 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectDeclBuffer() 2020-10-01 00:32:06.957 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectLodDeclBuffer() 2020-10-01 00:32:07.918 INFO TACVIEW.DLL: During the last 64.4s an average of 0 units objects and 0 ballistic objects have been active per frame 2020-10-01 00:32:07.918 INFO TACVIEW.DLL: The average frame rate of 31.9fps would have been 31.9fps if the flight data recorder was disabled 2020-10-01 00:32:07.918 INFO TACVIEW.DLL: DCS World simulation is taking 100.0% of CPU 2020-10-01 00:32:07.918 INFO TACVIEW.DLL: DCS GetWorldObjects is taking 0.0% of CPU 2020-10-01 00:32:07.918 INFO TACVIEW.DLL: Tacview recorder is taking 0.0% of CPU 2020-10-01 00:32:13.971 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: surface5 gc() LOD 0 297 squares 2020-10-01 00:32:13.978 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: surface5 gc() LOD 1 299 squares 2020-10-01 00:32:13.978 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: surface5 gc() 14.103100 ms 2020-10-01 00:32:14.230 INFO EDCORE: try to write dump information 2020-10-01 00:32:14.232 INFO EDCORE: # -------------- 20201001-003214 -------------- 2020-10-01 00:32:14.233 INFO EDCORE: DCS/2.5.6.55743 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19041) 2020-10-01 00:32:14.233 INFO EDCORE: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\VCRUNTIME140.dll 2020-10-01 00:32:14.233 INFO EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at DEB316E9 00:00000000 2020-10-01 00:32:14.261 INFO EDCORE: try to write dump information 2020-10-01 00:32:14.261 INFO EDCORE: # -------------- 20201001-003214 -------------- 2020-10-01 00:32:14.261 INFO EDCORE: DCS/2.5.6.55743 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19041) 2020-10-01 00:32:14.261 INFO EDCORE: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\VCRUNTIME140.dll 2020-10-01 00:32:14.261 INFO EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at DEB316E9 00:00000000 2020-10-01 00:32:14.269 INFO EDCORE: SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta;C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 530, UserName: 'vyrtu' 2020-10-01 00:32:14.269 INFO EDCORE: OS-Version: 10.0.19041 () 0x100-0x1 2020-10-01 00:32:14.269 INFO EDCORE: SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta;C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 530, UserName: 'vyrtu' 2020-10-01 00:32:14.269 INFO EDCORE: OS-Version: 10.0.19041 () 0x100-0x1 2020-10-01 00:32:14.308 ERROR DX11BACKEND: failed to create vertex buffer. Reason: E_OUTOFMEMORY 2020-10-01 00:32:14.308 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed assert `false && "failed to create vertex buffer"` at Projects\render\dx11backend_win8\Source\DX11BufferManager.cpp:379 2020-10-01 00:32:14.334 INFO EDCORE: try to write dump information 2020-10-01 00:32:14.334 INFO EDCORE: # -------------- 20201001-003214 -------------- 2020-10-01 00:32:14.334 INFO EDCORE: DCS/2.5.6.55743 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19041) 2020-10-01 00:32:14.334 INFO EDCORE: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\VCRUNTIME140.dll 2020-10-01 00:32:14.334 INFO EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at DEB316E9 00:00000000 2020-10-01 00:32:14.336 INFO EDCORE: SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta;C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 530, UserName: 'vyrtu' 2020-10-01 00:32:14.336 INFO EDCORE: OS-Version: 10.0.19041 () 0x100-0x1 2020-10-01 00:32:14.371 INFO EDCORE: try to write dump information 2020-10-01 00:32:14.371 INFO EDCORE: # -------------- 20201001-003214 -------------- 2020-10-01 00:32:14.371 INFO EDCORE: DCS/2.5.6.55743 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19041) 2020-10-01 00:32:14.371 INFO EDCORE: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\VCRUNTIME140.dll 2020-10-01 00:32:14.371 INFO EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at DEB316E9 00:00000000 2020-10-01 00:32:14.371 INFO EDCORE: SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta;C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 530, UserName: 'vyrtu' 2020-10-01 00:32:14.371 INFO EDCORE: OS-Version: 10.0.19041 () 0x100-0x1 2020-10-01 00:32:14.907 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000000016E9 (VCRUNTIME140): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2020-10-01 00:32:14.907 WARNING LOG: 1 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2020-10-01 00:32:14.907 INFO EDCORE: 0xFFFFFFFF8E2ED46A ((module-name not available)): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2020-10-01 00:32:14.908 INFO EDCORE: 0xFFFF8149C2C8EB90 ((module-name not available)): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2020-10-01 00:32:14.908 INFO EDCORE: 0xFFFFFFFF8E28846E ((module-name not available)): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2020-10-01 00:32:14.908 INFO EDCORE: MiniDumpWriteDump failed. Error: 2147942408 2020-10-01 00:32:14.908 INFO EDCORE: 0xFFFF800421593FF0 ((module-name not available)): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2020-10-01 00:32:14.908 INFO EDCORE: 0xFFFF801C994CFBA8 ((module-name not available)): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2020-10-01 00:32:14.909 INFO EDCORE: 0xFFFF8004214D0004 ((module-name not available)): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2020-10-01 00:32:14.909 INFO EDCORE: 0x00005276214D0001 ((module-name not available)): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2020-10-01 00:32:14.911 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000000016E9 (VCRUNTIME140): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2020-10-01 00:32:14.911 WARNING LOG: 1 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2020-10-01 00:32:14.911 INFO EDCORE: 0xFFFFFFFF8E28846E ((module-name not available)): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2020-10-01 00:32:14.912 WARNING LOG: 1 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2020-10-01 00:32:14.912 INFO EDCORE: 0xFFFF8004215F4AD0 ((module-name not available)): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2020-10-01 00:32:14.912 INFO EDCORE: 0xFFFF80042155F9D0 ((module-name not available)): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2020-10-01 00:32:14.912 INFO EDCORE: 0xFFFF801C997CF968 ((module-name not available)): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2020-10-01 00:32:14.912 INFO EDCORE: 0xFFFF801C995CF958 ((module-name not available)): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2020-10-01 00:32:14.912 INFO EDCORE: 0xFFFF8004214D0004 ((module-name not available)): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2020-10-01 00:32:14.912 WARNING LOG: 1 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2020-10-01 00:32:14.912 INFO EDCORE: 0x00005276214D0001 ((module-name not available)): (function-name not available) + 0x0 2020-10-01 00:32:14.912 WARNING LOG: 1 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2020-10-01 00:32:14.912 INFO EDCORE: MiniDumpWriteDump failed. Error: 2147942408 ---
Taz1004 Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) It looks like a memory issue. Still, you have 32G B of RAM and a decent 16GB pagefile. Were you streaming? Memory running out on dds files suggest video memory. Not system RAM. Similar to this guy's log file. Could be DCS issue if bunch of people are having similar VRAM issue just after an update. Can't imagine VRAM really running out on 2080 Ti. Or could be a mod or module they're running in common. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=287652 Edited October 1, 2020 by Taz1004 Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass
Vyrtuoz Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 I believe there is indeed some kind of memory leak or memory management bug in DCS World which is catalyzed by VR with HAGS enabled. Hope this will be fixed one day (hopefully before the Vulkan renderer is out). I would bet this will also probably fix stutter when HAGS is disabled… 1
theself Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) Did anyone figure out a solution to this? With HAGS on, dcs in VR flickers and is stuttery, with it off, it's nice and smooth.. this is all well and good, however HAGS off for other games (like pancake games like Call of Duty Modern Warfare etc) have their fps decimated and are unplayable, and so basically I need to keep it off and restart my computer any time I play DCS but turn it on again and restart the computer again for everything else which is not practical at all.. Edited April 18, 2021 by theself
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