P47 sound balance issue? Can hear other aircraft over the p47

[hazzer]

Hello,

 

There is a glaring issue in the p47 sounds, in that you can hear other aircraft over the engine that is right in front of you. It may not be the loudest war bird but in my experience when you are inside an aircraft you can barely hear any thing else. I have only ever heard one plane over myself sitting at idle in a p28(with my headset off!!!!) and that was a hawker sea fury at 300mph and 200ft performing a practice display at duxford.

 

So if me and my small aircraft can just about only hear that, why is it that I can hear every single aircraft over the p47. Including the CEII!!!!!

 

(disregard video quality)

 

Please fix this, it is terribly unrealistic. Also please not my feedback regarding audio levels for all other aircraft.

[Reflected]

It's just that the P-47 is much quieter compared to other aircraft. That's why others can be heard over the engine noise more easily.

[CajunJosh]

It does seem odd that I can fly with my canopy open or closed in formation and I can hear the sound of other P47s flying off in the distance louder than my own.

[boapiu]

It does seem odd that I can fly with my canopy open or closed in formation and I can hear the sound of other P47s flying off in the distance louder than my own.

 

I am wondering about the canopy being open or closed and the engine sound level is the same. There should be some at least small difference.

[SMH]

They seem to think the turbo acts like a big muffler and they're completely ignoring the waste gates on the lower cowling that most of the exhaust comes out of when the turbo isn't at full power.

[Paganus]

I'm not qualified to determine if it's correct or not, but ED's CEO has flown one, so they have access to a person that should know.

 

They are amazingly quiet in the few cockpit videos out there, with sound.

 

It's still early access so I suspect the current sounds, and levels are not final.

[SMH]

I'm not qualified to determine if it's correct or not, but ED's CEO has flown one, so they have access to a person that should know.

 

They are amazingly quiet in the few cockpit videos out there, with sound.

 

It's still early access so I suspect the current sounds, and levels are not final.

 

The one he flew didn't have a working turbo.

 

And it's hard to transplant a sound from one guy's head to another's.

[Paganus]

The one he flew didn't have a working turbo.

 

And it's hard to transplant a sound from one guy's head to another's.

 

LOL I don't think a transplant is required. More like a "Hey boss, how does this sound?":thumbup:

[Yo-Yo]

I am wondering about the canopy being open or closed and the engine sound level is the same. There should be some at least small difference.

 

The sound is recorded from the real plane from the cockpit.

[Brigg]

One thing that struck me at Duxford a couple of years ago was how quite the Jug was compared to other planes.

[SMH]

The sound is recorded from the real plane from the cockpit.

 

There's clearly more than one component to the sound. And recordings are optimized to use the full dynamic range of the recording medium. That doesn't have anything to do with their sound level in the real world. Whether you're recording a cricket or a nuclear bomb they both peak at 0 dB.

[hazzer]

One thing that struck me at Duxford a couple of years ago was how quite the Jug was compared to other planes.

 

It may be quieter than other planes but that shouldn't mean another aircraft, ie another p47 or a christen Eagle being louder than the aircraft you are sat in.

 

Again I use real world examples of me sat in an idling piper warrior at Duxford with a hawker sea fury flying overhead at low level, I could only just hear the sea fury. With normal Takeoff power set I wouldn't have heard it.

 

Whilst I'm not saying the sounds for the P47 aren't good, I am saying there is clearly a config issue with them.

[SMH]

It may be quieter than other planes but that shouldn't mean another aircraft, ie another p47 or a christen Eagle being louder than the aircraft you are sat in.

 

Again I use real world examples of me sat in an idling piper warrior at Duxford with a hawker sea fury flying overhead at low level, I could only just hear the sea fury. With normal Takeoff power set I wouldn't have heard it.

 

Whilst I'm not saying the sounds for the P47 aren't good, I am saying there is clearly a config issue with them.

 

DCS intentionally lets you hear other aircraft when you probably wouldn't in reality. It's a gamey thing but helpful as it provides a bit more SA. I don't mind it it's quite cool in fact. I always fly the Huey with the back doors open to help me hear what's going on outside.

 

I wonder if the "hear like in helmet" option might help. I never used it so not sure.

[hazzer]

DCS intentionally lets you hear other aircraft when you probably wouldn't in reality. It's a gamey thing but helpful as it provides a bit more SA. I don't mind it it's quite cool in fact. I always fly the Huey with the back doors open to help me hear what's going on outside.

 

I wonder if the "hear like in helmet" option might help. I never used it so not sure.

 

I have hear like in helmet on.

It may be the case that that's how dcs operates, however with the P47 is is massively unrealistic.

[SMH]

I have hear like in helmet on.

It may be the case that that's how dcs operates, however with the P47 is is massively unrealistic.

 

It's unrealistic in any plane, except in the most extreme circumstances. But again, it's one of those things they do to make the game more exciting, and also to give you a little bit more immersion and SA. Helps compensate for the not really being there factor.

[hazzer]

It's unrealistic in any plane, except in the most extreme circumstances. But again, it's one of those things they do to make the game more exciting, and also to give you a little bit more immersion and SA. Helps compensate for the not really being there factor.

 

No you aren't getting it. In the P47 you can hear other p47s that are on the ground way more clearly than the own engine. I could hear other planes very clearly over the aircraft and not my own. This is not the same in all the other modules, the sound of the other aircraft is much lower. Hence this is a bug.

[SMH]

I agree the engine sound should be louder in-cockpit. It should also change character and source direction depending on the setting of the waste gates.

[Thunderchief2000]

I agree the engine sound should be louder in-cockpit. It should also change character and source direction depending on the setting of the waste gates.

 

Yes this is interesting, I would assume that there is a significant change in sound from having the wastegates full open. thus all the exhaust is vented from the just behind the cowl to having the wastegates fully shut where all the exhaust should be diverted though the Turbo and venting out just forward and below the tail.

 

I have read that most P-47s these days do not have the turbo, either it is not installed or it is deactivated. So perhaps it was not possible to record the difference in sound? Assuming there is one of course.

[hazzer]

Can someone at ED fix this. As I showed in the video, the engine sound is drowned out by horrible tire noise when hear like helmet is on. Plus other aircraft are somehow much louder than the aircraft you are in.