Opinions 27 or 32 in. monitor for 1080p

[72westy]

Only $200 at Walmart. I thought it would be more. :)

Occasionally it will drop to 179.00 at Costco (normal 199.99)

[LucShep]

I have lots of room. A curved 32" would be great compared to what I have now.

https://www.costco.com/samsung-32%22-class-fhd-curved-monitor.product.100416413.html

Only $200 at Walmart. I thought it would be more. :)

Occasionally it will drop to 179.00 at Costco (normal 199.99)

...these guys in the videos seem pretty happy with theirs:

 

 

I prefer IPS panels but, even if that's a VA panel, it's pretty good for the price. :)

Edited August 30, 2020 by LucShep
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[BuzzU]

After doing more research I don't think this is a good idea. I'll admit I didn't understand it because I never looked into it before.

 

So, see if I have this right. If I went to a 32" 1080 momnitor in place of my 21" 1080 monitor I would lose detail. To get back the same detail I have now in going to a lager monitor i'd have to also increase the resolution. In doing that i'd need to also upgrade my system to retain the same fps I have now.

 

Also, because of my lousy vision I sit close to the screen so I can use my reading glasses. A bigger monitor is meant to sit farther away.

 

Have I got this right?

[Leaderface]

Well: I´m a former Optometrist and that´s a Thing I see many people do: Buying larger TVs to improve their visuals (larger phones, etc)

I´ll say the same thing to you than the one I say to my clients: You can make your image larger and benefit on that on being able to recognice better the larger images but one thing is for sure: you will continue to see the images equally blurred than before (greater in size but equally blurred).

Get the point?

You can buy a 4K Tv, a 8K one, but if you neglect the posibility of improve your vision (and that is the problem the 99% of the times), then you are the missing link over improving the image quality on your TV.

Increasing the size allways improve visibity but there will be a size that will force you to increase resolution to increase your comfort. (And that border is not equal to everybody because it depends on the visual accuracy of that person, contrast sensitibity, etc).

In most of the cases 1080p will be ok untill 27" in 16:9 aspect and at 1 meter of distance aprox.

1440 untill 38" on 21:9 aspect ratio and same distance.

4K is for really big monitors and/or lower distances.

BUT: allways counting on a 100% vision.

If your vision is decreased (first check your specialist and a second one too) and then: increase your monitor at a higher size than normal at equal resolution. (You can benefit from size without seeing pixels if your vision is lower than the average).

Edited August 30, 2020 by Leaderface

[BuzzU]

I wish I had all the money back I spent with Ophthalmologists. 5 operations on my right eye and I finally lost all sight in it. I easily had a lawsuit but that's not my style.

 

The left eye has developed a mild cataract but the doc won't operate on it because if something goes wrong I could end up blind. He said to just live with it. So, that's what i'm doing. I had to switch to a scope from open sights in my hunting and now that's ok. Flight sims are a struggle but no complaints. I can still fly them for now. I'm 77, so I don't expect things to get better.

[Leaderface]

You don´t have a lawsuit because you signed a contract before.

Probably you have another disease if you are considered of risk on your second surgery. (If not, that was just bad luck and very difficult to repeat).

At any time it will be imperative anyway.

Size is your ally in that case. Forget about pixel density.

[BuzzU]

I don't sue anybody. Lawyers told me I had an easy case to win. Not only did I lose the sight but since I was an owner operater truck driver it put me out of business to. We need 20/40 vision in both eyes to have a Class A license. So, it was early retirement for me.

 

No, I don't have any other condition. My doc just doesn't want to take the chance. He's not the same one that led to me going blind in one eye. It's best I never see him again.

 

Anyway, my vision is what it is. Going to a bigger monitor is not a good idea unless I can increase resolution and that means a system upgrade. I'd rather not right now. Bear and elk season are almost here.

[Leaderface]

Believe me: lawyers allways win money. Even if they loose the case.

You are better off on that.

In any case: you allready caught the higher damage yet. You have very little chances on the same problem again but, of course, when the need arrives.

And you will be better with a bigger screen, believe me.

Beware yourself!

[LucShep]

After doing more research I don't think this is a good idea. I'll admit I didn't understand it because I never looked into it before.

 

So, see if I have this right. If I went to a 32" 1080 momnitor in place of my 21" 1080 monitor I would lose detail. To get back the same detail I have now in going to a lager monitor i'd have to also increase the resolution. In doing that i'd need to also upgrade my system to retain the same fps I have now.

 

Also, because of my lousy vision I sit close to the screen so I can use my reading glasses. A bigger monitor is meant to sit farther away.

 

Have I got this right?

 

As someone who build and repaired computers and had the chance to use heaps of different monitors through the years (including recent 1440P high frequency and 4K top dogs), I can tell you that, right now, you couldn't pay me to use a monitor smaller than a 32'' for home use.

I'm on my 2nd 32'' monitor, and yes it's 1080P (IPS panel, 75Hz that also works fine at 60Hz) and I find it absolutely perfect, here on my desk at about an arm lenght from my face.

From work / multitasking to gaming, I don't feel like missing anything, quite on the contrary.

 

Instead of trusting other people's opinions without a propper impression from experience of your own, you'll be better trying one (before you buy).

My guess is that your opinion will change.

Edited August 31, 2020 by LucShep

[BuzzU]

I'd love to try one but how would i do that? I'd have to try it on my system to see how it would look for me.

 

You don't think stretching the pixels from a 21" monitor to 32" would lose detail/sharpness? Maybe I have it wrong but wouldn't a 32" monitor and a 21" monitor have the same amout of pixels if both were 1080?

[LucShep]

I'd love to try one but how would i do that? I'd have to try it on my system to see how it would look for me.

 

You don't think stretching the pixels from a 21" monitor to 32" would lose detail/sharpness? Maybe I have it wrong but wouldn't a 32" monitor and a 21" monitor have the same amout of pixels if both were 1080?

 

Modern monitor's technology has improved a LOT in less than a decade. With that said quality can still vary a bit betwen manufacturers and models.

Asus, Aoc, Benq, LG and Samsung are the leading brands. And there's three main types of panels - TN, IPS and VA.

 

In my case, I have an IPS panel from LG.

I do not have any issues with image quality whatsoever, great details and clarity, perfect color and blacks, perfectly sharp, no ghosting, no bleeding on edges, and nice viewing even at angles.

For me, all is good in my 32'' 1080P. The only downside I can think of in the particular model I own (LG 32ML600M-B) is not having FreeSync. For some people, that is a deal breaker.

 

I'd suggest getting an IPS panel, which is the best quality, if you don't mind paying a little more.

There's the VA panels, which is what we may call "medium quality" but it's still pretty darn good (best if on budget).

Just avoid TN panels (worst quality, by far) no matter how affordable.

You can read a bit about panels characteristics »here«.

 

The only reason I'd suggest to go for a 27'' instead of a 32'' is if you insist in being really close to the screen, or if you have neck problems - on the bigger screen you'll swerving your head a lot more in those semi-panic moments with DCS. ;) HEHE

 

But man, be sure, whether IPS or VA, size 27'' or 32''... once you jump from that tiny 21'' and fire up DCS on the new bigger monitor, you'll be grinning like a kid on christmas day. :D

Edited August 31, 2020 by LucShep

[BuzzU]

Is this a good one?

 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1560684-REG/lg_32mn500m_b_32_full_hd_ips.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gclid=Cj0KCQjwv7L6BRDxARIsAGj-34peDnQ4DAxozIduM7epAUvIip-EZmg5G17DlLK2ler5AIaNIWRLMvIaAuKUEALw_wcB

[LucShep]

Is this a good one?

 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1560684-REG/lg_32mn500m_b_32_full_hd_ips.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gclid=Cj0KCQjwv7L6BRDxARIsAGj-34peDnQ4DAxozIduM7epAUvIip-EZmg5G17DlLK2ler5AIaNIWRLMvIaAuKUEALw_wcB

 

If you don't need more than 1080P and 60hz refresh-rate, and want the big 32'' format size (and willing to give it an arm distance from you), then yes, that is probably as good as it gets for the price! :thumbup:

 

BTW, you can try to "simulate" theoretical comparison in size from your 21'' (4:3 or 16:9?) to the new hypotetical one here: http://displaywars.com/21-inch-4x3-vs-32-inch-16x9

Edited August 31, 2020 by LucShep

[BuzzU]

Ok, good deal. Thanks a lot.

[aleader]

Not going to disput that it depends on what settings the user is comfortable with, that is beyond obvious. :)

The point is, and if you read again, the guy said his game is at full settings, quoting:

 

DCS 2.5.6 at maxxed settings and 1440P res, high fps, no stutters?

...yeah, that ain't happening with a GTX1080, even if overclocked at the brink of VRMs explosion. ;)

 

It's not 'obvious'. Many will call 'High' settings everything EXCEPT AA turned to high. All AA on in-game DCS would be more like an 'Ultra' setting. And no, there's no way everything was turned up to max at 1440p. I can attest to this with my 1070 at 1440p.

Edited September 2, 2020 by aleader

[Goa]

best option is a 34' ultrawide 3440x1440p resolution.

 

 

Fullhd is a thing of the past.

[LucShep]

best option is a 34' ultrawide 3440x1440p resolution.

 

 

Fullhd is a thing of the past.

 

It depends on preference.

 

I gave a hard chance for three months to an ultrawide 34'' (2560x1080) and couldn't get used to the format.

All the time, I couldn't avoid the feeling that it just looked like someone had chopped off the top part of a regular widescreen (it was returned, never regreted it).

 

As for 1080P being a thing of the past, from experience I disagree.

There's a major advantage with it, which is having (still) good clarity and sharpness while being much easier on resources - you can use sub-450,00 USD/EUR GPUs and crank up AA to remove jaggies in ways that you can not with 1440P (and higher) resolutions for graphically demanding games/sims. And that's further reinforced if you add to that the fact that panels are only getting better and better. :)

Edited September 2, 2020 by LucShep

[Goa]

It depends on preference.

 

I gave a hard chance for three months to an ultrawide 34'' (2560x1080) and couldn't get used to the format.

All the time, I couldn't avoid the feeling that it just looked like someone had chopped off the top part of a regular widescreen (it was returned, never regreted it).

 

As for 1080P being a thing of the past, from experience I disagree.

There's a major advantage with it, which is having (still) good clarity and sharpness while being much easier on resources - you can use sub-450,00 USD/EUR GPUs and crank up AA to remove jaggies in ways that you can not with 1440P (and higher) resolutions for graphically demanding games/sims. And that's further reinforced if you add to that the fact that panels are only getting better and better. :)

 

 

Comon dude, a 1080p monitor used to be good 12 years go..I bought my 1st fullhd monitor in 2008, as per your statment then why dont you just use a CRT monitor 19' LG FLATRON 1024X768 with a banshee 3d gpu? :smilewink:

 

 

No way I'll ever again play a videogame on a 1080P, the resolution is ridiculous low.

[LucShep]

Sure, I won't disagree that more resolution is better for visuals.

I even considered a 43'' 4K monitor recently (please check those to believe how good it is - that became my current goal).

Problem is DCS is my most used sim title right now, and there's no way to use it (resources hog) with the kind of settings that I absolutely demand if using one of those, not without a 2000,00+ EUR/USD investment on upgrades... :)

1080P still does the trick IMO.

Edited September 2, 2020 by LucShep

[BuzzU]

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No way I'll ever again play a videogame on a 1080P, the resolution is ridiculous low.

 

Who's asking you to?

 

Not all of us can afford a high end system. Hard for you to understand?

[Hekktor]

I am running on a very budged sandy bridge 2500k, gtx1080 on an LG WQHD 3840 x 1600. I came from FullHD, via 1440p, now this wide format. All with the same compute, just the graphic card changed from 470gtx, via 970gtx to the 1080gtx.

I would NEVER go back below 1440p. It is just so much more crispier without AA. I'd say - save all money you can for a decent monitor. Much better investment imho.

Now with the prices of the new 30xx the used cards market will collaps. You can get 1080ti's for a few dollars I'd say.

 

One cheap 4 core overclockable cpu and enough memory - I think this is all one needs for DCS.

[BuzzU]

Maybe if we get another stimulous payment.

[Aluminum Donkey]

I'm considering a Monitor upgrade also. It's going to be either 27 or 32" (from 24") as well when I finally take the plunge. Curious to hear what others experiences have been on this too in DCS.

 

More bigger is always more gooder--but, it also eats more of the green stuff.

 

Also, if you get a bigger monitor that has the same resolution as your old one, it's just going to look really rough, so you'll need to apply more anti-aliasing, which will require a more powerful GPU, in which case you should have gotten a higher-resolution monitor, and that will need an even more powerful GPU, and you're in a circle that never ends :)

 

I'm running a 1080 Ti with a 2560x1440 screen and it's very nice. I'd love to try a 4K screen, it would need less anti-aliasing, but might cause my 1080Ti to choke, and then I'd need a 2080 Ti, and... well, too much cash for me! :)

 

If you really want to stick with a 1080p monitor, just keep your existing one for now until you have enough cash on hand to get a 1440p or 4K monitor and a hefty graphics card to run it (RTX 2080 or GTX 1080 Ti minimum). If you want a 1080p monitor, stick with 27" and buy one used if possible. It's pretty decent, but not great, and you'll want to upgrade soon after anyway.

 

32" at 1080p will look rough.

 

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[Hekktor]

What Aluminium Donkey says! Why would you buy a BIGGER monitor with the same resolution? Makes absolutely no sense, imho. You just get bigger pixels -> you need more AA -> DCS MSAA is very hungry for more gpu power -> you waste money.

Tune down AA (I switched the ingame MSAA off completely - check it just for to have an idea of HOW MUCH frames it is eating with your current hardware).

[BuzzU]

I run MSAA and get 100fps. That's why I like 1080.

 

I may wait until I can get a higher resolution but i'll need a better vid card. My CPU and ram are ok.

Edited September 3, 2020 by BuzzU