VS461 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Hi evyone, I'm thinking about the fully clickable panel of our Ka-50. I don't know is it easy to handle the things with the mouse or the mouse emulator on the X52 (not the simple clicks but the ABRIS for example). On MSFS2k4, Nemeth Bros' Mi-24P was fully clickable, but the mouse ain't the ideal input device :cry:. Will the full clickable panel be usable with keyboard commands (and, with this, full vouce command)? If not, I found an interesting thing: virtual reality glove:):) http://www.vrealities.com/P5.html With this, the clicks, knob turns etc. might be easier:D. And cheaper than a touchscreen and the TouchBuddy. If it is compatible. Or another useless gadget? What are Your opinions? Thanks! За всю историю никто и никогда не сумел завоевать Афганистан. Hикто и никогда Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenan Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Well, well, well..if the glove can move the cursor inside the cockpit and click it, that's all you need. Interesting device, would be nice if someone tried this out? Maybe ED could try one and let us one if it works or not? 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Looks kind'a stupid wearing that :D If it looked like regular glove I might consider it... I look crazy enough with gadgets I have already :) 2 No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_rcpilot Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 That's exactly what I was thinking about when I came up with the idea of a 1024X768 goggle. Actually I was thinking about the implementation of a fingertip force feedback glove which delivers the feelings of your fingers touching nubs and switches. Problem is, with such a glove it might be weired to grab the joystick. The way I see things, such an idea is totally feasible today. The person who tries this out has got to be very familiar with electronics and computer driver programing. I'm just familiar with hardware design and a little about PC programing, but I'm always willing to try out new ideas. Can't promise that I'll start working on this, but if I do, I will let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMFA117_Poko Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Looks kind'a stupid wearing that :D If it looked like regular glove I might consider it... I look crazy enough with gadgets I have already :)Kuky! LOL! I'm thinking same about me. Some ppl like to show their every new gadgets to friends. But me? I abash to invite friends of mine to my house - 27 years old boy in his "neverland ranch". But whole thing with electronic glove sounds good. I was thinking about it when I first time heard about 6DOF full clickable cockpit in DCS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Poko, 27 year old boy, aye... I'm 33... even worse :D No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaunyeh Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 36 and building something strange, people think i m weird when they see flaming cliff and falcon manuals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I was thinking about this myself, might be even better than a touch screen - you get to use all the screen space i.e. don't need multiple touch screens if you were to use a multiple monitor setup. So it's gonna be much cheaper, and perhaps more convenient too. This glove looks more interesting: http://www.dg-tech.it/vhand/eng/index.html Comes both in USB and Bluetooth flavors, and comes with an SDK (good in case there is no generic mouse emulation or it doesn't work well). Left hand version available so you can keep your right hand on the stick. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VS461 Posted April 25, 2008 Author Share Posted April 25, 2008 This glove looks more interesting: http://www.dg-tech.it/vhand/eng/index.html I checked this one out. By its price, I can buy 2 or almost 3 touch screen kits for my displays, if I want 17" ones. But I don't want. I want 22" wides:D Urze's LLTM setup is veeeery interesting. A vertical dual display with touch screen kit on the lower one... good as a rookie kit:D Bye! За всю историю никто и никогда не сумел завоевать Афганистан. Hикто и никогда Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 The future for us flight simmers is looking good. The better the technology gets and affordable to us.. the closer we get to ultimate virtual reality piloting ;) No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashEd Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Urze's LLTM setup is veeeery interesting. A vertical dual display with touch screen kit on the lower one... good as a rookie kit:D Bye! Does anyone know which touch screen Urze used in the LLTM video? Or can you post some links to others that might be useful. I might start building a Blackshark rig very soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deviletk Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 The I-Glasses seems to be nice as well. Pricey but nice. Military uses them as you can see if you click around a bit. Think its 800x600 res that gives you an 80inch screen in front of your eyes. Dual screens gives stereo (3D) effect. Combined with TrackIR and your inside the sim completelly. http://www.i-glassesstore.com/iglassespc-3d.html Regards Alex "Snuffer" D. AMD FX8350 (8 core) 4.1GHZ ::: 8GB Dominator 1600mhz ::: GTX660 2GB ::: 2xHD ::: 24" ASUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashEd Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 http://www.i-glassesstore.com/iglassespc-3d.html Very nice indeed. I also found these yeasterday, the eMagin z800: - http://www.3dvisor.com/ They have the same resolution as the i-glasses and appear to have head tracking too, but I think it is only 3 dof and not 6 like trackIR 4. I found a link to some touchscreen overlays, but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a 22" widescreen version :( http://www.touchscreens.com/products-addon.html) Urze' touchscreen setup can be seen on the LLTM video here: http://www.leftside-limited.com/index.html) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurofor Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Those touchscreen overlays are very interesting but I also have 22" widescreen (Samsung 226BW). :noexpression: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VS461 Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 VR gloves Hi, ain't it possible to set up a 22"W and a 19" display vertically and add a touch kit to the lower 19"? I dunno if the DualHead2Go can handle it. Maybe as two 22"W and forget the side stripes cause of the 19"? THX! За всю историю никто и никогда не сумел завоевать Афганистан. Hикто и никогда Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feuerfalke Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Hi, ain't it possible to set up a 22"W and a 19" display vertically and add a touch kit to the lower 19"? I dunno if the DualHead2Go can handle it. Maybe as two 22"W and forget the side stripes cause of the 19"? THX! You can usually connect 2 monitors to one video-card. Dunno about ATI/AMD, but with nVidias nView it is also easily possible to arrange a vertical array. Gigabyte GA-Z87-UD3H | i7 4470k @ 4.5 GHz | 16 GB DDR3 @ 2.133 Ghz | GTX 1080 | LG 55" @ 4K | Cougar 1000 W | Creative X-Fi Ti | TIR5 | CH HOTAS (with BU0836X-12 Bit) + Crosswind Pedals | Win10 64 HP | X-Keys Pro 20 & Pro 54 | 2x TM MFD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBQ Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 These glasses look interesting--I'll bite when they can bump the resolution to 1024X768. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Maybe the novint falcon would work better than a data glove. As it has haptics technologies it would allow to 'feel' the cockpit to some extend. http://home.novint.com/products/novint_falcon.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashEd Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 These glasses look interesting--I'll bite when they can bump the resolution to 1024X768. Yeah, I'm waiting for the next step up in resolution and also integrated 6-DOF head tracking. I remember when I was in Tokyo about 5 years ago and they had glasses then with 800x600 resolution :blink: They weren't cheap though... Still tempted by the touchscreen films though. And I have Two GTX8800's so I could effectively run 4 monitors (I think). Two 22" and two 19" (vertical) with touch screens would be sweet :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckee14 Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 http://emotiv.com/corporate/2_0/2_5.htm i'm looking forward for this - just think, and it will send the key-combo :) sure, the first versions won't be able to turn some knobs, but klicking and combos shouldn't be a problem. by the way, hello all together Democracy is choice, not freedom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke49th Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 by the way, hello all together Ahh, I guy from switzerland! Ja grьhzi:D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 49th Black Diamonds - DCS & Falcon BMS Online Squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckee14 Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 dich trifft man aber auch an jeder ecke hehe :) Democracy is choice, not freedom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke49th Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 dich trifft man aber auch an jeder ecke hehe :) :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 49th Black Diamonds - DCS & Falcon BMS Online Squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Yeah, I'm waiting for the next step up in resolution and also integrated 6-DOF head tracking. I remember when I was in Tokyo about 5 years ago and they had glasses then with 800x600 resolution :blink: They weren't cheap though...I have the eMagin z800 from more than a year. It has a 3DOF head tracker that doesn't work very well, 800x600 and narrow FOV. Despite all that, it has changed they way I enjoy simulation permanently. There's nothing like looking around naturally in a stereoscopic 3D cockpit. But I wouldn't recommend it to anyone! I hope the future will bring a better experience, with HMD's or whatever. That device from emotiv.com looks like science fiction. Have you tried it, or anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashEd Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I have the eMagin z800 from more than a year. It has a 3DOF head tracker that doesn't work very well, 800x600 and narrow FOV. Despite all that, it has changed they way I enjoy simulation permanently. There's nothing like looking around naturally in a stereoscopic 3D cockpit. But I wouldn't recommend it to anyone! I hope the future will bring a better experience, with HMD's or whatever. That device from emotiv.com looks like science fiction. Have you tried it, or anyone? Thanks for the info on the eMagin z800. I'll stall well away ;) I have confidence that there will be something much better that will be avaiable soon. I wish I could afford to go to Tokyo again and go down to Akihabara - check out all the cool new toys! :thumbup: That device from emotiv.com looks like science fiction. Have you tried it, or anyone? Yeah, certainly looks like 'one-of-a-kind' ;):D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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