The Legit Discussion for the D Model Tomcat

[Quid]

15 hours ago, Slant said:

 

Out of curiousity, could you provide me with a sample hud pic for each? I'm very confused about this topic.

The two are comparable but different.  The F-14D HUD was made by Kaiser Aerospace (bought by Rockwell Collins in 2000), while the SparrowHawk was developed by FlightVisions Inc. (which by the time of delivery became CMC Electronics).  The two have similar symbology, but the SparrowHawk is newer and has a wider FOV.  In the attached images, you can see the differences between the two, from the combining glass to the shape and the FOV.

 

Top image is the SparrowHawk, bottom is the Kaiser. (Images Removed)

 

EDIT:

Image Source:

Danny Coreman, Danny Coreman's Uncovering the Grumman F-14A/B/D Tomcat, (Antwerp Belgium: DACO Publications, 2018), 77, 87.

 

EDIT 2:

Removed images - material is copyrighted by the author.  Recommend checking the source book to see the difference.

 

 

Edited December 13, 2020 by Quid
Removed images

[Slant]

10 hours ago, Quid said:

The two are comparable but different.  The F-14D HUD was made by Kaiser Aerospace (bought by Rockwell Collins in 2000), while the SparrowHawk was developed by FlightVisions Inc. (which by the time of delivery became CMC Electronics).  The two have similar symbology, but the SparrowHawk is newer and has a wider FOV.  In the attached images, you can see the differences between the two, from the combining glass to the shape and the FOV.

 

Top image is the SparrowHawk, bottom is the Kaiser.

 

EDIT:

Image Source:

Danny Coreman, Danny Coreman's Uncovering the Grumman F-14A/B/D Tomcat, (Antwerp Belgium: DACO Publications, 2018), 77, 87.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the pictures, do you happen to have pictures of the HUD layouts? Do both of them have the funky circular speed and alt indicators? Is there any chance more information of either one can be gained through public channels? So far I've only known about the CMC Electronics (former Sparrowhawk) HUD and there's precious little to be found via Google...

Edited December 13, 2020 by Slant

[Quid]

1 hour ago, Slant said:

 

Thanks for the pictures, do you happen to have pictures of the HUD layouts? Do both of them have the funky circular speed and alt indicators? Is there any chance more information of either one can be gained through public channels? So far I've only known about the CMC Electronics (former Sparrowhawk) HUD and there's precious little to be found via Google...

 

Detailed information about the HUDs are in the NATOPS volumes, but those can't be shared.  The F-14D's also removed most of the HUD's combat symbology to another supplement (F-14AAD-1A), but a point of direct comparison is for TARPS; almost the entire HUD is the same between the two, but the SparrowHawk shows (or can show) all of the navigation and waypoint data in the lower right (not shown on the Kaiser), as well as radar or camera mode, and 3 different airspeeds (Kaiser only shows IAS).  So, again, comparable but not exactly the same.  As to your question about the circular speed indicator, both can use it, but the SparrowHawk flops over to boxes in different modes.

[Slant]

Makes me want them even more now lol. Why do I do this to myself...

[CarbonFox]

Such a shame with all the new tech that the F-14D got, it never received the software update to carry the AIM-120.

Edited December 17, 2020 by CarbonFox

[Spurts]

They were slotted to receive it, but they used the funds for LANTIRN integration instead.  The dropped more LGBs than they would have ever fired AMRAAMS.

[BreaKKer]

4 hours ago, Spurts said:

They were slotted to receive it, but they used the funds for LANTIRN integration instead.  The dropped more LGBs than they would have ever fired AMRAAMS.

It was deemed a not cost effective implementation.

[DmanGIV]

Spurts is right.. they needed funding for Lantern and moved the funding from AMRAAM to the Strike role for the F-14.