D4n Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 See trackfile. RWR-spikes of the "never use radar using"-Flankers Ai stays. Also, they all are failing to do "search and engage", they are not attacking me (search me with their EOS for example, that is what I wanted to test, if Harrier RWR would detect IFF-request from the Flanker aircraft if they are in EOS, because afaik, IFF-requests are radio-wave transmissions that RWRs would detect. But am unable to test that in singleplayer now because of this radar-bug... ...Will try to find someone to test with in a multiplayer-server. ) second track is Ai failing to engage without the RadarUsing option. AiStillHasRadarOn.trk AiFailingToEngageWithoutRadarUsingOption.trk DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
dundun92 Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, DanielNL said: IFF-requests are radio-wave transmissions that RWRs would detect. no Eagle Enthusiast, Fresco Fan. Patiently waiting for the F-15E. Clicky F-15C when? HP Z400 Workstation Intel Xeon W3680 (i7-980X) OC'd to 4.0 GHz, EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC Gaming, 24 GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB Crucial MX500 SSD. Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS, DIY opentrack head-tracking. I upload DCS videos here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0-7L3Z5nJ-QUX5M7Dh1pGg
Flappie Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 No issue on my side. Su-27_not_using_radar_and_engaging_with_27ET.trk 1 ---
D4n Posted December 30, 2020 Author Posted December 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, dundun92 said: no source for your claim please? DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
Featured Comment D4n Posted December 30, 2020 Author Featured Comment Posted December 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, Flappie said: No issue on my side. Su-27_not_using_radar_and_engaging_with_27ET.trk 79.93 kB · 3 downloads ah, interesting. Turns out it is related to the Flankers not having any route-point in my setup. Probably worthy of a new separate bug report, or? DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
Dagger71 Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, DanielNL said: source for your claim please? IFF and radar are two completely different systems. RWR does not detect IFF transmissions of any kind.
D4n Posted December 30, 2020 Author Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) Ok, here the new track, the title of this bug-thread even remains correct (issue-description: they all lock me although radar-using set to "never use". They ignore radar-using option it appears, when set to "never use".) AiStillHasRadarOnDespiteRadarUsingOptionSetToNeverUse.trk 2 minutes ago, Dagger71 said: RWR does not detect IFF transmissions of any kind. Source of your claim please. Modern (and expensive) RWRs could detect several bandwidths most likely, at least this would make sense from military point of view. Edited December 30, 2020 by DanielNL DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
Dagger71 Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) Just now, DanielNL said: Modern (and expensive) RWRs could detect several bandwidths most likely, at least this would make sense from military point of view. no. That's not how it works. Edited December 30, 2020 by Dagger71
dundun92 Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 21 minutes ago, DanielNL said: Modern (and expensive) RWRs could detect several bandwidths most likely, at least this would make sense from military point of view. Source that RWRs are tuned for IFF frequencies (no that fact that I makes sense to you doesnt count)? Eagle Enthusiast, Fresco Fan. Patiently waiting for the F-15E. Clicky F-15C when? HP Z400 Workstation Intel Xeon W3680 (i7-980X) OC'd to 4.0 GHz, EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC Gaming, 24 GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB Crucial MX500 SSD. Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS, DIY opentrack head-tracking. I upload DCS videos here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0-7L3Z5nJ-QUX5M7Dh1pGg
Dagger71 Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, dundun92 said: Source that RWRs are tuned for IFF frequencies (no that fact that I makes sense to you doesnt count)? I see what you did there
D4n Posted December 31, 2020 Author Posted December 31, 2020 25 minutes ago, dundun92 said: no that fact that I makes sense to you doesnt count I don't understand this part, please correct it. Quote Source that RWRs are tuned for IFF frequencies you misunderstood. Of course that wouldn't make sense. What I meant is that modern RWRs could be tuned for both radar and IFF frequencies, it would be super useful to military pilots. DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
Dagger71 Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, DanielNL said: I don't understand this part, please correct it. you misunderstood. Of course that wouldn't make sense. What I meant is that modern RWRs could be tuned for both radar and IFF frequencies, it would be super useful to military pilots. You've been told several times. RWR does not detect IFF.
D4n Posted December 31, 2020 Author Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dagger71 said: RWR does not detect IFF. that's what most virtual pilots assume, yes.... Edited December 31, 2020 by DanielNL DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
dundun92 Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, DanielNL said: What I meant is that modern RWRs could be tuned for both radar and IFF frequencies, it would be super useful to military pilots. source that any do that? Eagle Enthusiast, Fresco Fan. Patiently waiting for the F-15E. Clicky F-15C when? HP Z400 Workstation Intel Xeon W3680 (i7-980X) OC'd to 4.0 GHz, EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC Gaming, 24 GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB Crucial MX500 SSD. Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS, DIY opentrack head-tracking. I upload DCS videos here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0-7L3Z5nJ-QUX5M7Dh1pGg
Dagger71 Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, DanielNL said: that's what most virtual pilots assume, yes.... Then I'll wait for your proof.
ED Team NineLine Posted December 31, 2020 ED Team Posted December 31, 2020 I think you guys have run way off they trail, as Daniel has stated he solved his issue, closed. Thanks. 1 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
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