investigating Invisible FARPs only seeing certain suppliers

[Findingpastorp]

Whenever I place an invisible FARP it will only function with an M818 supplying it, the Ural-375 or HEMTT will not re-arm my planes/helicopters, not a huge issue but I'd like my russian birds to re-arm off of russian trucks 

[Flappie]

100% reproducible.

 

 

invisible_farp_trucks.trk

[Flappie]

Hi @BIGNEWY. Can you please acknowledge this bug?

[Grimes]

It is not a bug, but also is a bug.  Units from the red column do not provide services when the unit is on the blue coalition and vice versa. If you switched everything to red in that sample mission then the old Russian trucks would rearm you but the M8181 won't. So in that context it is working as intended, however the invisible farp on red is not behaving as expected. 

 

Edited February 24, 2021 by Grimes

[Flappie]

@GrimesThe title of my video is a little bit misleading. I meant "Soviet-made trucks unable to refuel".  In this video, made from the track above, the soviet-made Ural-375 is blue (Georgia, default modern coalitions) and it is standing less than 150 meters away from my blue US Huey.

 

Edited February 24, 2021 by Flappie

[Grimes]

Correct. Now switch Georgia to red and you will note that the old Russian equipment will service the helicopter but the US made stuff won't. Its annoying and should be disabled, but that is how FARPs have worked since Black Shark released. 

[Flappie]

Oh right. I had no idea. Thanks for the clarification.

[Nealius]

On 2/24/2021 at 1:04 PM, Grimes said:

Units from the red column do not provide services when the unit is on the blue coalition and vice versa. If you switched everything to red in that sample mission then the old Russian trucks would rearm you but the M8181 won't. So in that context it is working as intended

 

Why is this intended? If factions are on the same coalition they should provide services to all units of the same coalition, regardless of their default coaltion.  

[Grimes]

1 hour ago, Nealius said:

 

Why is this intended? If factions are on the same coalition they should provide services to all units of the same coalition, regardless of their default coaltion.  

 

Because for some reason or another during Black Shark's development someone at ED decided only certain units should provide the service based on coalition and as far as I know it hasn't been changed. There was a FARP.lua file with the definitions, but it was hidden in the great scripts folder purge. When this all came up earlier this year I made a feature request to remove the restrictions and attached an updated FARP.lua with the necessary changes. That request is still open. 

 

There are a few coalition specific behaviors I've noticed over the years, some have been made universal or apply to a country, others remain the same. An inconsequential example is when AI do AAR, the sides they form up on before and after refueling are reversed between red and blue.