Esac_mirmidon Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 I think NOW is our time to express our gratitude to all ED-DCS for his great job developing this simulator saga. NOW is time to express the most kind words for they. Probably this days are being hard and difficult, no matter the reason. They are sharing his thoughts with us, the problems and headaches with the release. All my respect for your great effort, my support and also my money when the western version will be finished ( no matter when ). IMHO this is the right path for our posts, SUPPORT, nothing else, nothing more. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
Stalintc Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 I think NOW is our time to express our gratitude to all ED-DCS for his great job developing this simulator saga. NOW is time to express the most kind words for they. Probably this days are being hard and difficult, no matter the reason. They are sharing his thoughts with us, the problems and headaches with the release. All my respect for your great effort, my support and also my money when the western version will be finished ( no matter when ). IMHO this is the right path for our posts, SUPPORT, nothing else, nothing more. I second that! My dosh is already allocated to BS and will stay allocated no matter when it is released! Not even the missus can get her hands on it ahahahahaaa!
Skkuda Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 but what is worse is closing threads and banning members just because they have an opinion the devs nok like Why dou you say it´s worse? It´s not worse for them.....they can do whathever they want to do. It´s simple...they know that no matter the time it took to get to release the game to us, because at the end we are going to buy the game no matter what. They have a huge advantage on this......there´s no other simulator on the horizon that can compite with them. so if we don´t like the way that they banned or deleted post showing frustration (That´s the exact word) ¿what can we do? Simply nothing For me ,now I have to wait like many the 90 days (This time never was mentioned before. They just say when it´s finished. but now it´s finished let´s add 90 days more) plus one extra month wich is the time the game took to get to my country.:cry: Sorry if i´m giving you the reason to get me banned here.:doh: [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic56197_1.gif[/sIGPIC] AMD Phenom IIx4 955 Black Edition@3.2Ghz Asus M4A785TD-M EVO 6Ghz DDR3 1033 NVidia Geforce GTX 570 hd1280 Mb GDDR5
Peyoteros Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Gents, You will have to put your self together, cos coming on "hard" never solved anything. Your "I'm so disappointed" or "Damn it, FFS" will not help in this situation. We are here and this is how it is whether you like it or not... and it's nothing you can do about it. I'm sure ED feels worse than we do... so, lets show some understanding here and stop accusing ED or 1C or SF or own balls shrinking... I've been waiting as much as everyone else, dreaming about it, asking for the producers notes, watching screen shots etc. Coming to the forums every day at least 4-5 times. Made some friends and enemy's , had some laughter and got ballistic... This is my home now, if forums are down, there is a huge empty space in my life... So, here I am, my name is Peyo and I'm an Black Shark addict. (everyone says, Hello Peyo^^) This is the ultimate test for all of us, and these are the choices we have. Keep on blaming the world about delaying western BS (wont solve anything), accusing ED, 1C, SF, will get you banned and wont solve anything. Let's help each other get thru these difficult times. Remember, this is nothing in comparison to the end of the world. Be good, have Fun, cut the crap! :pilotfly: 3 "Eagle Dynamics" - simulating human madness since 1991 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ۞ ۞
Squid_DK Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 I can understand the decision, it is the only sane business minded way of getting the game out. I would fear loosing some sales if I was ED. Still nuff said about that. I will be studying manuals as they get released, and I have my hands full getting a store ready for the x-mas shopping Staffan http://www.ipms.dk i7 9700K, Asus Z390 Prime A, Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4, GeForce RTX 2080 Ti STRIX ROG, Fractal Design Define R6, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, MFG Crosswind, Oculus Rift S. 32 GB 3200 MHz RAM
sascha01 Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Maybe the russian government would like to take a look at the software first making sure no real secrets are beeing let out of the box. As real as we want it you can be sure that the software is not 100% as real as they might want to make you believe. maybe they got the info of the export model KA-50. But i can asure you again the real KA-50 is still closed terrain. And thus the sim is merely a "how they think it will be like" PC sim. So maybe the waiting will be a bit longer than planned for the "export software"
Canada Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Maybe the russian government would like to take a look at the software first making sure no real secrets are beeing let out of the box. As real as we want it you can be sure that the software is not 100% as real as they might want to make you believe. maybe they got the info of the export model KA-50. But i can asure you again the real KA-50 is still closed terrain. And thus the sim is merely a "how they think it will be like" PC sim. So maybe the waiting will be a bit longer than planned for the "export software" I don't think a government has such a power over a private company. It'd be a shame if it did. Helicopters fly.
joey45 Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 :thumbup: Peyo, ranting and raving gets you no where . im a BS addict aswel... when it comes out anyway... . The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Esac_mirmidon Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 ¡¡ Hello Peyo ¡¡ " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
sascha01 Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 I don't think a government has such a power over a private company. It'd be a shame if it did. I would fully understand it ! Games can be a covert way of transporting secret information about mil equipment. Why not a game ???? Dopes like us might not see it :smilewink: just a fun game right ? No i did not watch too many X files episodes :D
Cosmonaut Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Well, if we have to wait 4 months, I guess I will add another 5 and wait for the next addon... :hmm: Good luck with that. I doubt another module will be ready for release for at least a year after we get BS in the west. Realistically more like just under one and a half to two years. Cozmo. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Minimum effort, maximum satisfaction. CDDS Tutorial Version 3. | Main Screen Mods.
Canada Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 I would fully understand it ! Games can be a covert way of transporting secret information about mil equipment. Why not a game ???? Dopes like us might not see it :smilewink: just a fun game right ? No i did not watch too many X files episodes :D When you ask information about an aircraft, I think you ask it to the manufacturer, not the client. So disclosure of information is made by Kamov, not the Russian Federation. Well, I think, that's just my 2 million cents. Helicopters fly.
Guest SirNeo Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 (edited) I don't think a government has such a power over a private company. It'd be a shame if it did. In Russia they do. And in many other countries I'm afraid. I would fully understand it ! Games can be a covert way of transporting secret information about mil equipment. Why not a game ???? Dopes like us might not see it :smilewink: just a fun game right ? No i did not watch too many X files episodes :D I think there are easier ways to do that hehe. The time between Russian version and western version really does seem way too long for the job they need to do. 90+ days... :( Edited October 23, 2008 by SirNeo
sascha01 Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 (edited) Kamov is part of 51% state share holding Maybe the other 49 % leakt the information. Maybe the 51% did not like that. Anyway im sure we will get the adapted version soom :-) Edited October 23, 2008 by sascha01 ,
Canada Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 In Russia they do. And in many other countries I'm afraid. No offence, but we're not in the 80s anymore. Russia, from what I know, is a free state, with many private businesses (ED, for example). But I don't think a software forum is the best place to discuss things of this nature, so let's not. Helicopters fly.
sascha01 Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 (edited) No offence taken ! Again i would fully understand the russian government if that is really the case. I billiondollar project beeing sold for 29 $ u.s.d. a piece. by a few quick dollar making people over the back of the russian tax payers that would make me very reluctant to give a export license to a software company before reviewing it. But again it is merely specualtion , and we have 90+ days to entertain ourselves that way :-P Edited October 23, 2008 by sascha01
baksie Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Wow. This discussion is going way of target. All this effort (ranting, yelling etc) will not help. Matter is it might slow things down. Built your pits, read the manual, Fly Lomac or FSX or other sim. I want this game really bad, visit forums daily (never posted). I will buy russian version if possible. I will buy western version when available. Relax Intel I7-10700K, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB NVMe, MSI Z490 ACE, RAM:64GB DDR4 3600, WIN 10-64, 1080Ti Waiting on a good RTX AH-64D|AV-88|A10CII|F15E|F16CM|FA18C|F14B|NV|PG|Syria|Synia
joey45 Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 the 90 days is for the rating of the game. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Canada Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Wow. This discussion is going way of target. All this effort (ranting, yelling etc) will not help. Matter is it might slow things down. Built your pits, read the manual, Fly Lomac or FSX or other sim. I want this game really bad, visit forums daily (never posted). I will buy russian version if possible. I will buy western version when available. Relax We're not yelling, we're typing.;) No, I got you. I'll shut my trap. Helicopters fly.
Canada Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Here: But I don't think a software forum is the best place to discuss things of this nature, so let's not. Helicopters fly.
deviletk Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 And thus the sim is merely a "how they think it will be like" PC sim. Not completely true. The A/C's DCS (ED) will release are based on all the info they can lay their hands on plus what they are permitted to let us civis use (un classified info). Since militaries order modules from DCS i would take those mil versions are as real as the PC and coding skills allow them to be. When those modules goes out to us civilians they will make classified systems simplified or "not to work in that exact way". So my point is that it is definatelly not just a bunch of "guess work" or what they "think" buttons will do when we press them. And since this is going to be the most realistic combat flight sim to date, i dont think its all fantasy based. At least i hope not. ;) PS. Dont take everything litteraly of what i said though, i reserve myself to be a bit off as well. But i hope i got it somewhat right. Right? :D Regards Alex Regards Alex "Snuffer" D. AMD FX8350 (8 core) 4.1GHZ ::: 8GB Dominator 1600mhz ::: GTX660 2GB ::: 2xHD ::: 24" ASUS
GGTharos Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 ED has the operator's manuals and the actual operator's (as well as Kamov's) help in programming a hi-fidelity, realistic simulation of the Ka-50 attack helicopter. But i can asure you again the real KA-50 is still closed terrain. And thus the sim is merely a "how they think it will be like" PC sim. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Shepski Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Considering that some members of this forum have posted on torrent websites using the same nick name as they have here looking for help in getting pirated copies of Black Shark to work they deserved to be banned. 1
Canada Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Considering that some members of this forum have posted on torrent websites using the same nick name as they have here looking for help in getting pirated copies of Black Shark to work they deserved to be banned. Doesn't this mean that you've had a look yourself at the Black Shark torrents ?!;) No, I'm kidding, who hasn't... Anyway, it's in Russian, and I can't understand it. I'll buy the English version when it comes out. Helicopters fly.
Guest kotuc20 Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 http://rapidshare.com/files/154601623/DCS-BS_Flight_Manual_rus.pdf here you are this is Black Shark manual in russian language it seems very good.
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