missing info Good God, AIM7s somehow got worse

[LastRifleRound]

After the latest update, I have not been able to get a single kill with an AIM7, shots within 15nm at Mach .9 25k on an F-pole, second shot taken at under 10nm. Impossible to score a hit. They're not even dumping chaff half the time. They dive for the deck and the missile goes stupid almost immediately.

 

Run the 4v4 mission. Good luck and may God have mercy.

 

EDIT: Just got 2. One of my SOPs before was to switch the RCS setting to the smallest setting. I tried not touching it and now the pk seems back to normal. Don't know if it's placebo or not but there you go.

Edited July 26, 2021 by LastRifleRound

[Steel Jaw]

Can't get kills with the Great White Hope?  Go figure 

[SharpeXB]

Does the RCS actually do anything?

[Svend_Dellepude]

7 hours ago, SharpeXB said:

Does the RCS actually do anything?

 

AFAIK not yet. Haven't noticed any difference from one RCS setting to the other.

[LastRifleRound]

On 7/26/2021 at 9:22 PM, Mower said:

Can't get kills with the Great White Hope?  Go figure 

Yeah usually the enemy has to do something though, since we're not simulating actual missile technical failures yet. Like maybe dispense some chaff, jam, or, I don't know, not just lazily dive at 10 degrees at 10nm. Unless they want to make R27's randomly miss, too, as I'm sure they did/do in real life as well.

 

Anyway, RCS used to control when the AIM120 turned on its seeker head in DCS. It might still do this, I haven't tested it in a while. Since the AIM120 used to be hilariously easy to notch, I got in the habit of delaying when the seeker turns on as long as possible or I'd never hit anything with it against more experience players. The less time for them to set it up, the better. Some forum users posted TACVIEWs showing the RCS value for the AIM120 affecting when the missile went pitbull. The lower the RCS value, the later the missile would wait. Makes sense I suppose.

 

I don't know if it did anything to the AIM7, but since we were told it didn't do anything in the AIM120 and it did, I thought maybe it had a hidden effect for the AIM7 as well.

 

Turns out it may be the Hornet radar itself. I'm keeping a sharper eye on the HUD and noticing the radar breaking lock constantly for seemingly no reason (targets at 10nm cold with v-sub-c of like only 80-100 or so). I'm also noticing HMD/BORE ACM mode is having MAJOR trouble locking anything below you, and a decent amount of trouble locking anything else that isn't dead-on nose hot.

 

Didn't report it as a bug because I don't know if it is one, just trying to see if anyone else has any experience with this. I fly many older scenarios, so I use AIM7's probably more than the average user.

 

TL:DR; Any of you noticing less performance of STT on lightly maneuvering targets or look-down targets close to the terrain?

[Nealius]

 

On 7/27/2021 at 10:22 AM, Mower said:

Can't get kills with the Great White Hope?  Go figure 

 

Outdated phrase from Vietnam when Sparrows only connected with ~15% of their targets. In ODS that figure went up to ~68%. 

[Steel Jaw]

3 hours ago, Nealius said:

 

 

Outdated phrase from Vietnam when Sparrows only connected with ~15% of their targets. In ODS that figure went up to ~68%. 

 

I stand corrected, but Sparrows are still junk:  you must support the missile the entire flight as you watch your F-Pole drop.

[LastRifleRound]

5 minutes ago, Mower said:

 

I stand corrected, but Sparrows are still junk:  you must support the missile the entire flight as you watch your F-Pole drop.

Yeah but that's what you're given so that's what you use

[Svend_Dellepude]

Sparrows are oldschool and cool! Don't expect to get long range hits against fighter targets. When the bandit maneuvers you have to maneuver too to avoid him getting in the notch.

[Nealius]

15 hours ago, Mower said:

 

I stand corrected, but Sparrows are still junk:  you must support the missile the entire flight as you watch your F-Pole drop.

 

Junk compared to an AMRAAM, yes, but what if you're flying a historical mission before AMRAAMs were operational?

[Mikeck]

I like sparrows even in more modern fights b/c I don’t have to be as careful firing into a group with friendlies in the area. It hits who I want or it misses who I want. No worries about a pitbull tearing into whatever piece of meat it detects first

 

that said, I HAVE noticed f-18 radar dropping lock a lot. Last night, I was coming into tank snd locked up the c-130 from 10nm out. Vc of 50-100 and it kept dropping the lock! I mean, same altitude and there is a closing speed of 100knots against a target the size of a barn from 10 miles away! I lost lock 6 times between 10 miles out and 2 miles out.

 

as for sparrows: same luck as you. Which is to say, none. They don’t seem to track. I never report it because even with a track I usually get a “unable to reproduce”.  So, I let the universe move as it will