missing info Maverick Alignment

[Marklar]

Ok. I think I found a method to boresight MAV in BORE mode. I locked a target using WPN on MFD, clicked BSGT, undesignated and now HUD crosshair is aligned with crosshair on WPN page. I will need to do more testing tomorrow.

[Frederf]

Yeah, that'll do it. When the modeling gets more exact you'll need to ensure your SPI is also on the same object the missile is tracking when you save the calibration. Right now any calibration gives perfect results so any click of BSGT does it.

[Bunny Clark]

Boresighting the missile in BORE mode is not possible. You can boresight to the HUD in VIS mode though if you want the crosshairs to be as accurate as possible in BORE. Eventually we'll also be able to boresight to the FCR in PRE mode if you don't have a TGP. 

 

ED's current implementation of BORE is questionable. There's no indicated in the HAF F16-34 that the BORE reticle moves on the HUD at all, though it doesn't technically say it doesn't move either. The manual states that the Maverick seeker will be "roughly aligned" with the HUD EO reticle and that the aircraft should be flown to align the target with the cross, then use the missile seeker to select the specific target for attack.

 

Specifics can be found on page 1-446 if you're interested. 

[Marklar]

4 hours ago, Bunny Clark said:

Boresighting the missile in BORE mode is not possible.

Do you mean IRL or in DCS? I am pretty sure I managed to boresight it yesterday but will do more testing tonight.

[falconbr]

4 hours ago, Marklar said:

Do you mean IRL or in DCS? I am pretty sure I managed to boresight it yesterday but will do more testing tonight.

According the RL AGM-65D/G/H/K Missile Boresight Procedures, the PRE or VIS sub mode are used for that purpose.

 

Best regards,

[falconbr]

18 hours ago, Marklar said:

How is it fixed if I can move it with Radar Cursor? Also it does not matter whether it's fixed or not, it should point at the same location where Maverick is looking, so a pilot can use HUD to manoeuvre the plane and lock a target. At this moment it's not possible because they are not aligned. On my 1st picture you can see I am trying to lock a building but the Maverick is looking somewhere else.

 

 

https://youtu.be/YNjbmboN4o8?t=1830

 

The same video at: 15:31, 17:45, 19:08

Edited October 12, 2021 by falconbr

[Marklar]

Not sure what you are trying to show here. His crosshair is fixed to HUD but maybe because he is not touching RDR cursor, it works the same way in DCS. 

 

I like how he swears after every, I guess unsuccessful, pass :). Interesting he always switches to A/A mode before he goes for another pass and switches back to A/G just before he is about to lock and shoot a Maverick.

[Frederf]

12 hours ago, Bunny Clark said:

Boresighting the missile in BORE mode is not possible.

I'd be careful of statements like that. The procedure often specifies best practices and not what is/is not possible. Best way to find out is ask some SME if boresighting can be done against any SPI or only TGP. If any SPI then I'm sure BORE works. If only TGP then it's probably using the same logic pathways that handle automatic handoff (VIS/PRE).

 

Diagram has note "EO reticle (missile on same line-of-sight, initially)" It's a fixed reference.

 

Yes, cycling AG with the MO/DGFT switch is a good technique to reset the system and the way the TGM-65s are operated. Plus it's procedure to change after attack into an AA mode for self-defense.

[Bunny Clark]

On 10/12/2021 at 1:47 PM, Frederf said:

I'd be careful of statements like that. The procedure often specifies best practices and not what is/is not possible. Best way to find out is ask some SME if boresighting can be done against any SPI or only TGP. If any SPI then I'm sure BORE works. If only TGP then it's probably using the same logic pathways that handle automatic handoff (VIS/PRE).

Fair, I'm certainly not an F-16 pilot, all I can do is read manuals. The -34 says to boresight in PRE or VIS mode, maybe that's just best practice, maybe it's the only way possible. I'm not sure how that would work though, as BORE mode operates independently of SPI, that's one of the main features of that mode. 

Though, as OP as noticed works in DCS, if the Mav is boresighted in PRE or VIS mode, that correction could be applied in BORE mode as well, getting the Mav reticle closer to the HUD EO reticle. 

[ebabil]

I am having boresighting the mavs. After I performed that boresight thing, only first missile gets aligned when I engage. Rest 5 missiles stay misaligned. 

What is the procedure? After boresighting first rack, I hit tms down then missile step button and get a lock and hit bsgt again. IIRC boresighting racks is enough not the 6 missile one by one

Which step am I missing? 

[Frederf]

AGM-65 are boresighted on a per-station basis. I.e. if 6 are carried on LAU-88A on stations 3/7 then station 3 has to be boresighted and station 7 has to be boresighted. That's both all you can do and all you need to do both DCS and in reality. In DCS calibration of rack to station is the only source of alignment error. If for whatever reason you found that the next missile in the station rotary was not calibrated then you'd have to overwrite the calibration setting with a new one. But you won't find this necessary in DCS.

[Hobel]

On 9/19/2021 at 12:05 AM, Dannyvandelft said:

You did it right. Do NOT do TMS aft after clicking boresight on the WPN screen. Just cycle to the next missile. Here's how I do it, and it works perfectly.

TGP on
WPN on
Slave TGP to target
MAN to AUTO
TMS up
Make WPN page SOI
slave Maverick 1 to target
TMS up
Push NWS button to select Maverick 2
Slave Maverick 2 to target
TMS up
Push NWS button to select Maverick 3
And so on.

Once you cycle back to Maverick 1, it will be off target again but once you lock a target in flight, it'll work. Just make sure you're in range or the handoff won't complete.

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why 3?

I think stations 1 and 2 are enough.

that's how I do it and I have no problems

[Dannyvandelft]

why 3?
I think stations 1 and 2 are enough.
that's how I do it and I have no problems

Yup! I didn't know each rack only needs one missile to be aligned on it, to align all 3. Saves some time.

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